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Product installs, Kupu calls, Konqueror stalls
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2006-09-15 14:46:48
On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:20, Maurits van Rees wrote:
> I'll give it a try.

Thanks very much for the reply.

> > I just installed the zope/plone combo src distro
direct from
> > plone.org on a Kubuntu AMD64 Linux. This is Plone
2.5 & Zope   It
> > comes up OK and seems to work.  However, when
adding new
> > products, some don't appear in the Zope admin
page, primarily the
> > Quills blogging pkg, which was installed along
with zwiki and
> > FAQulator, both of which showed up immediately. 
Is there a
> > special install approach for this pkg? (Yes, I
restarted zope
> > multiple times since installing the packages)
>
> The Zope admin page?  Do you mean the Zope Management
Interface
> (ZMI), where on the left you see Root Folder, Control
Panel,
> acl_user, etcetera?  And you don't see Quills in the
box on the
> right with lots of entries and an Add button next to
it?  Then the
> problem would be that Quills is a product for Plone,
not for Zope. 
> So you should not install it in Zope, but in Plone (go
to site
> setup, on the top right).

I meant the http://<server>/<SITE_NAME>/prefs
_install_products_form
which shows a number of uninstalled and installed products
that 
shipped with the distro such as  CMFSquidTool 1.3.0,
CacheSetup 
1.0, ... TextIndexNG3 3.1.9, as well the installed products.

It says: To make new products show up here, put them in the 
directory /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products on the
file 
system, and restart the server process.

which I did - the products are placed into that dir:

rootmoo /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products
525 $ ls -ld FAQulator FCKeditor kupu Quills-1.5RC3 ZWiki
drwxr-xr-x  6 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 FAQulator/
drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 FCKeditor/
drwxrwxr-x 20 plone root 4096 2006-09-11 23:46 kupu/
drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-08-29 18:45
Quills-1.5RC3/
drwxr-xr-x 11 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 ZWiki/
22:35:49 rootmoo
/opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products

and after a restart, FAQulator, FCKeditor, kupu, and ZWiki
are 
available, but there's no evidence of Quills (which is
advertised as 
a Plone Product, not a Zope product).

> Note that Quills _should_ be listed in the Control
Panel of Zope,
> which in my case is located at:
> http://localhost:8080/Control_Panel/Products/manage
_workspace

No Quills-related entries show up in the Zope Control Panel
either.


> Does that help or did I misinterpret your problem?

You interpreted my problem perfectly but unfortunately while
you 
suggested a number of good ideas (and I learned more
examining them), 
none of them seemed to work.

> > Also, altho it's obviously installed (as part of
the default) I
> > haven't yet come across a composition page which
invokes Kupu or
> > the FCKeditor (which seems to have installed fine
- I can set
> > prefs, see it installed in the Products page). Is
there some kind
> > of config magic that needs to be invoked to call
these into
> > being?  Dancing girls?  Goat sacrifice?  I'd love
to try them
> > (the editors).  There's no sign of them in the
zwiki, the page
> > composer, nor any page that I would expect to see
this great
> > composer.
>
> First of all, not every content that you add to Plone
has a rich
> text field that can be used by kupu or FCKeditor.  But
yes, adding
> a document or simply editing the front page, should
present you
> with a rich field where one of those editors should be
loaded.
>
> I guess you haven't yet set the personal preferences
for this user.
> Go to preferences, then click Personal Preferences. 
This page has
> a selection box for Content editor where you can select
either
> kupu, FCKeditor or a basic editor.  That should work.

This has been done for the admin, and two other users who I
added.  
None of them has access to the editors, tho you can see that
the 
preferences for them in each user's login.  This is quite
odd.

> > Also, when using Konqueror to access the Plone
pages, I get
> > complete CPU utilization by the Konq browser
related to the plone
> > pages.  This doesn't happen with Opera or
Firefox.  Is this known
> > or should I file a bug report?
>
> I haven't heard of this.  It is not clear upfront if
this is a
> Plone problem or a Konqueror problem.  You may want to
search the
> bug trackers of Plone and Konqueror.  Has anyone else
heard of
> this?

I'll file a bug on this.  I'm using Opera now, but I'll
re-run the 
tests on Konqy and firefox.


> > Also, and this is REALLY a newbie question, but
where do you
> > change your password?  Not in Personal Preferences
that I can
> > see.  I see that you can request a new, completely
unguessable,
> > completely unmemorable password to be sent to you
by email, but
> > if I know my password && I've logged in
&& I want to change it to
> > something else, is it possible to do that?
>
> The initial user that you used to create the Zope
instance and
> probably the Plone Site, is a special user that is only
known in
> the top acl_users folder of Zope.  You can go to the
ZMI and change
> your password there.  

I looked at every option available but couldn't find
anything that 
would allow me to change it (as admin)

> Changing the password for that particular 
> user in Plone is not possible.
>
> For normal users there is a "Change
Password" link in the
> preferences of that user.

Not in my site there isn't (as a normal user).  This is
begining to 
feel like a required chunk of functionality was left out of
the 
installation, but my server log is clean..

> Related may be: Site Setup > Portal Settings >
Password Policy.

Nothing there either...


>
> I hope that helps.  Feel free to ask followup questions
on the
> list.

Thanks very much for the help.  I'll look around and see if
I can find 
additional hints as to why I have these gaping holes.

-- 
Harry Mangalam - Research ComputingNACS, E2148, Engineering
Gateway, 
UC Irvine 92697  949 824 0084(o), 949 285 4487(c) 
harry.mangalamuci.edu

-- 
Cheers, Harry
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for fax)
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user name
2006-09-15 15:20:03
Errr.. didn't I check that in?

[looks]

Ooops. I thought I did. Will have a go at it tonight.

Thanks for the patch! 


// jens

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> mwoehlke wrote:
> > My ctags plug-in (or is it a part?) does not
remember that I want to use
> > custom options (KDevelop 3.3.91). The attached
patch (remember if 'use
> > custom arguments' is checked) appears to fix the
problem. Can someone
> > review this and check it in?
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> No comments?
> (patch: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.kdevel
op/16285)
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Product installs, Kupu calls, Konqueror stalls
user name
2006-09-15 16:54:47
Product names must be valid Python package names, so you
likely  
copied the wrong directory, or Quills - stupidly - comes
with an  
invalid product name.

Stefan


On 15. Sep 2006, at 16:46, Harry Mangalam wrote:

> drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-08-29 18:45
Quills-1.5RC3/

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2006-09-15 16:54:47
Product names must be valid Python package names, so you
likely  
copied the wrong directory, or Quills - stupidly - comes
with an  
invalid product name.

Stefan


On 15. Sep 2006, at 16:46, Harry Mangalam wrote:

> drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-08-29 18:45
Quills-1.5RC3/

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2006-09-15 22:05:48
Harry,

For Quills, IIRC, you'll need to change the name of the
folder from  
'Quills-1.5RC3' to 'Quills'

For the admin password, use the Zope Management Interface to
change  
the pw, as you won't see a "Change Password"
link for the admin  
(superuser) account's preferences.  Non-admin (i.e. regular
Plone  
accounts) passwords can be reset in Preferences -> Change
Password

To change the admin pw, visit http://localhost:808
0/acl_users/ 
manage_main , click "Users", then click
"Password"

HTH,
Kamal


On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Harry Mangalam wrote:

> On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:20, Maurits van Rees
wrote:
>> I'll give it a try.
>
> Thanks very much for the reply.
>
>>> I just installed the zope/plone combo src
distro direct from
>>> plone.org on a Kubuntu AMD64 Linux. This is
Plone 2.5 & Zope   It
>>> comes up OK and seems to work.  However, when
adding new
>>> products, some don't appear in the Zope admin
page, primarily the
>>> Quills blogging pkg, which was installed along
with zwiki and
>>> FAQulator, both of which showed up immediately.
 Is there a
>>> special install approach for this pkg? (Yes, I
restarted zope
>>> multiple times since installing the packages)
>>
>> The Zope admin page?  Do you mean the Zope
Management Interface
>> (ZMI), where on the left you see Root Folder,
Control Panel,
>> acl_user, etcetera?  And you don't see Quills in
the box on the
>> right with lots of entries and an Add button next
to it?  Then the
>> problem would be that Quills is a product for
Plone, not for Zope.
>> So you should not install it in Zope, but in Plone
(go to site
>> setup, on the top right).
>
> I meant the http://<server>/<SITE_NAME>/prefs
_install_products_form
> which shows a number of uninstalled and installed
products that
> shipped with the distro such as  CMFSquidTool 1.3.0,
CacheSetup
> 1.0, ... TextIndexNG3 3.1.9, as well the installed
products.
>
> It says: To make new products show up here, put them in
the
> directory /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products on
the file
> system, and restart the server process.
>
> which I did - the products are placed into that dir:
>
> rootmoo /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products
> 525 $ ls -ld FAQulator FCKeditor kupu Quills-1.5RC3
ZWiki
> drwxr-xr-x  6 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37
FAQulator/
> drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37
FCKeditor/
> drwxrwxr-x 20 plone root 4096 2006-09-11 23:46 kupu/
> drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-08-29 18:45
Quills-1.5RC3/
> drwxr-xr-x 11 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 ZWiki/
> 22:35:49 rootmoo
/opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products
>
> and after a restart, FAQulator, FCKeditor, kupu, and
ZWiki are
> available, but there's no evidence of Quills (which is
advertised as
> a Plone Product, not a Zope product).
>
>> Note that Quills _should_ be listed in the Control
Panel of Zope,
>> which in my case is located at:
>> http://localhost:8080/Control_Panel/Products/manage
_workspace
>
> No Quills-related entries show up in the Zope Control
Panel either.
>
>
>> Does that help or did I misinterpret your problem?
>
> You interpreted my problem perfectly but unfortunately
while you
> suggested a number of good ideas (and I learned more
examining them),
> none of them seemed to work.
>
>>> Also, altho it's obviously installed (as part
of the default) I
>>> haven't yet come across a composition page
which invokes Kupu or
>>> the FCKeditor (which seems to have installed
fine - I can set
>>> prefs, see it installed in the Products page).
Is there some kind
>>> of config magic that needs to be invoked to
call these into
>>> being?  Dancing girls?  Goat sacrifice?  I'd
love to try them
>>> (the editors).  There's no sign of them in the
zwiki, the page
>>> composer, nor any page that I would expect to
see this great
>>> composer.
>>
>> First of all, not every content that you add to
Plone has a rich
>> text field that can be used by kupu or FCKeditor. 
But yes, adding
>> a document or simply editing the front page, should
present you
>> with a rich field where one of those editors should
be loaded.
>>
>> I guess you haven't yet set the personal
preferences for this user.
>> Go to preferences, then click Personal Preferences.
 This page has
>> a selection box for Content editor where you can
select either
>> kupu, FCKeditor or a basic editor.  That should
work.
>
> This has been done for the admin, and two other users
who I added.
> None of them has access to the editors, tho you can see
that the
> preferences for them in each user's login.  This is
quite odd.
>
>>> Also, when using Konqueror to access the Plone
pages, I get
>>> complete CPU utilization by the Konq browser
related to the plone
>>> pages.  This doesn't happen with Opera or
Firefox.  Is this known
>>> or should I file a bug report?
>>
>> I haven't heard of this.  It is not clear upfront
if this is a
>> Plone problem or a Konqueror problem.  You may want
to search the
>> bug trackers of Plone and Konqueror.  Has anyone
else heard of
>> this?
>
> I'll file a bug on this.  I'm using Opera now, but
I'll re-run the
> tests on Konqy and firefox.
>
>
>>> Also, and this is REALLY a newbie question, but
where do you
>>> change your password?  Not in Personal
Preferences that I can
>>> see.  I see that you can request a new,
completely unguessable,
>>> completely unmemorable password to be sent to
you by email, but
>>> if I know my password && I've logged
in && I want to change it to
>>> something else, is it possible to do that?
>>
>> The initial user that you used to create the Zope
instance and
>> probably the Plone Site, is a special user that is
only known in
>> the top acl_users folder of Zope.  You can go to
the ZMI and change
>> your password there.
>
> I looked at every option available but couldn't find
anything that
> would allow me to change it (as admin)
>
>> Changing the password for that particular
>> user in Plone is not possible.
>>
>> For normal users there is a "Change
Password" link in the
>> preferences of that user.
>
> Not in my site there isn't (as a normal user).  This
is begining to
> feel like a required chunk of functionality was left
out of the
> installation, but my server log is clean..
>
>> Related may be: Site Setup > Portal Settings
> Password Policy.
>
> Nothing there either...
>
>
>>
>> I hope that helps.  Feel free to ask followup
questions on the
>> list.
>
> Thanks very much for the help.  I'll look around and
see if I can find
> additional hints as to why I have these gaping holes.
>
> -- 
> Harry Mangalam - Research ComputingNACS,
E2148, Engineering Gateway,
> UC Irvine 92697  949 824 0084(o), 949 285 4487(c)
> harry.mangalamuci.edu
>
> -- 
> Cheers, Harry
> Harry J Mangalam - 949 856 2847(o) 949 285 4487(c)
(email for fax)
>                    hjmtacgi.com  [plain text
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2006-09-16 20:48:45
Thanks very, Kamal, Stefan & Maurits

On Friday 15 September 2006 15:05, Kamal Gill wrote:
> Harry,
>
> For Quills, IIRC, you'll need to change the name of
the folder from
> 'Quills-1.5RC3' to 'Quills'

The problem was that I assumed that like the other products,
Quills 
was a single product, but in fact, the distro tarball
includes a 
number of packages required (?) for it.  So even renaming it
didn't 
work.  I needed to unpack the included packages
(basesyndication/  
fatsyndication/  plonetrackback/  Quills/  RPCAuth/) at the
Product 
level.  there was no file in there to indicate that to a
newbie such 
as myself, so I assumed that like the other Products, you
just stuck 
the top level dir in the Products dir.

Living and Learning...

> For the admin password, use the Zope Management
Interface to change
> the pw, as you won't see a "Change
Password" link for the admin
> (superuser) account's preferences.  Non-admin (i.e.
regular Plone
> accounts) passwords can be reset in Preferences ->
Change Password
>
> To change the admin pw, visit http://localhost:808
0/acl_users/
> manage_main , click "Users", then click
"Password"
>
> HTH,

YES!! That did it.  thanks very much .  Now off to figure
out what's 
happened to kupu..
 

> Kamal
>
> On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Harry Mangalam wrote:
> > On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:20, Maurits van
Rees wrote:
> >> I'll give it a try.
> >
> > Thanks very much for the reply.
> >
> >>> I just installed the zope/plone combo src
distro direct from
> >>> plone.org on a Kubuntu AMD64 Linux. This
is Plone 2.5 & Zope  
> >>> It comes up OK and seems to work. 
However, when adding new
> >>> products, some don't appear in the Zope
admin page, primarily
> >>> the Quills blogging pkg, which was
installed along with zwiki
> >>> and FAQulator, both of which showed up
immediately.  Is there a
> >>> special install approach for this pkg?
(Yes, I restarted zope
> >>> multiple times since installing the
packages)
> >>
> >> The Zope admin page?  Do you mean the Zope
Management Interface
> >> (ZMI), where on the left you see Root Folder,
Control Panel,
> >> acl_user, etcetera?  And you don't see Quills
in the box on the
> >> right with lots of entries and an Add button
next to it?  Then
> >> the problem would be that Quills is a product
for Plone, not for
> >> Zope. So you should not install it in Zope,
but in Plone (go to
> >> site setup, on the top right).
> >
> > I meant the
> > http://<server>/<SITE_NAME>/prefs
_install_products_form which
> > shows a number of uninstalled and installed
products that shipped
> > with the distro such as  CMFSquidTool 1.3.0,
CacheSetup 1.0, ...
> > TextIndexNG3 3.1.9, as well the installed
products.
> >
> > It says: To make new products show up here, put
them in the
> > directory
/opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products on the file
> > system, and restart the server process.
> >
> > which I did - the products are placed into that
dir:
> >
> > rootmoo
/opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products
> > 525 $ ls -ld FAQulator FCKeditor kupu
Quills-1.5RC3 ZWiki
> > drwxr-xr-x  6 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37
FAQulator/
> > drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37
FCKeditor/
> > drwxrwxr-x 20 plone root 4096 2006-09-11 23:46
kupu/
> > drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-08-29 18:45
Quills-1.5RC3/
> > drwxr-xr-x 11 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37
ZWiki/
> > 22:35:49 rootmoo
/opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products
> >
> > and after a restart, FAQulator, FCKeditor, kupu,
and ZWiki are
> > available, but there's no evidence of Quills
(which is advertised
> > as a Plone Product, not a Zope product).
> >
> >> Note that Quills _should_ be listed in the
Control Panel of
> >> Zope, which in my case is located at:
> >> http://localhost:8080/Control_Panel/Products/manage
_workspace
> >
> > No Quills-related entries show up in the Zope
Control Panel
> > either.
> >
> >> Does that help or did I misinterpret your
problem?
> >
> > You interpreted my problem perfectly but
unfortunately while you
> > suggested a number of good ideas (and I learned
more examining
> > them), none of them seemed to work.
> >
> >>> Also, altho it's obviously installed (as
part of the default) I
> >>> haven't yet come across a composition
page which invokes Kupu
> >>> or the FCKeditor (which seems to have
installed fine - I can
> >>> set prefs, see it installed in the
Products page). Is there
> >>> some kind of config magic that needs to be
invoked to call
> >>> these into being?  Dancing girls?  Goat
sacrifice?  I'd love to
> >>> try them (the editors).  There's no sign
of them in the zwiki,
> >>> the page composer, nor any page that I
would expect to see this
> >>> great composer.
> >>
> >> First of all, not every content that you add
to Plone has a rich
> >> text field that can be used by kupu or
FCKeditor.  But yes,
> >> adding a document or simply editing the front
page, should
> >> present you with a rich field where one of
those editors should
> >> be loaded.
> >>
> >> I guess you haven't yet set the personal
preferences for this
> >> user. Go to preferences, then click Personal
Preferences.  This
> >> page has a selection box for Content editor
where you can select
> >> either kupu, FCKeditor or a basic editor. 
That should work.
> >
> > This has been done for the admin, and two other
users who I
> > added. None of them has access to the editors, tho
you can see
> > that the preferences for them in each user's
login.  This is
> > quite odd.
> >
> >>> Also, when using Konqueror to access the
Plone pages, I get
> >>> complete CPU utilization by the Konq
browser related to the
> >>> plone pages.  This doesn't happen with
Opera or Firefox.  Is
> >>> this known or should I file a bug report?
> >>
> >> I haven't heard of this.  It is not clear
upfront if this is a
> >> Plone problem or a Konqueror problem.  You may
want to search
> >> the bug trackers of Plone and Konqueror.  Has
anyone else heard
> >> of this?
> >
> > I'll file a bug on this.  I'm using Opera now,
but I'll re-run
> > the tests on Konqy and firefox.
> >
> >>> Also, and this is REALLY a newbie
question, but where do you
> >>> change your password?  Not in Personal
Preferences that I can
> >>> see.  I see that you can request a new,
completely unguessable,
> >>> completely unmemorable password to be sent
to you by email, but
> >>> if I know my password && I've
logged in && I want to change it
> >>> to something else, is it possible to do
that?
> >>
> >> The initial user that you used to create the
Zope instance and
> >> probably the Plone Site, is a special user
that is only known in
> >> the top acl_users folder of Zope.  You can go
to the ZMI and
> >> change your password there.
> >
> > I looked at every option available but couldn't
find anything
> > that would allow me to change it (as admin)
> >
> >> Changing the password for that particular
> >> user in Plone is not possible.
> >>
> >> For normal users there is a "Change
Password" link in the
> >> preferences of that user.
> >
> > Not in my site there isn't (as a normal user). 
This is begining
> > to feel like a required chunk of functionality was
left out of
> > the installation, but my server log is clean..
> >
> >> Related may be: Site Setup > Portal
Settings > Password Policy.
> >
> > Nothing there either...
> >
> >> I hope that helps.  Feel free to ask followup
questions on the
> >> list.
> >
> > Thanks very much for the help.  I'll look around
and see if I can
> > find additional hints as to why I have these
gaping holes.
> >
> > --
> > Harry Mangalam - Research ComputingNACS,
E2148, Engineering
> > Gateway, UC Irvine 92697  949 824 0084(o), 949 285
4487(c)
> > harry.mangalamuci.edu
> >
> > --
> > Cheers, Harry
> > Harry J Mangalam - 949 856 2847(o) 949 285 4487(c)
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