Indexing and searching on Word.

Hey guys I have some questions if someone has any time.

I have a basic plone site, and it works great. But I need to
be able to 
search on the  content of Word docs. What's the easiest way
to go about 
doing this? I read a bit up on Archetypes, but it sounds
like that's a 
mechanism for converting information, which I don't
necessarily need to to.

Looking at this document:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/integrating-
office-files

It says install Archetypes, but isn't that already included
with Plone 
(btw it would be great if it linked to the things it's
asking you to 
install).

I downloaded Archtetypes 1.3.7 bundle, and the readme.txt
mentions to 
run the "quickinstaller_tool", there's no such
file in the Archetypes 
directory structure... ??

Any guidance would be most appreciated.

What are the odds that the next version of plone and index
and search 
office docs out of the box?

Muchos Thanks in advance!



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> Hey guys I have some questions if someone has any time.
>
> I have a basic plone site, and it works great. But I
need to be able to
> search on the  content of Word docs. What's the
easiest way to go about
> doing this? I read a bit up on Archetypes, but it
sounds like that's a
> mechanism for converting information, which I don't
necessarily need to
> to.

i think you want the converters in textindexng2.  I believe
ingeniweb also
has some mechanism to index word documents.  enfold server
(our commercial
product) does it with microsoft's native IFilter
functionality.  there are
quite a few ways to do this.

> Looking at this document:
> http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/integrating-
office-files

not familiar with it.

> It says install Archetypes, but isn't that already
included with Plone
> (btw it would be great if it linked to the things it's
asking you to
> install).

how about logging into plone and adding a comment?

  - I know a lot of the technologies such as pdf2html work
but there are a
myraid of problems having the work out of the box.

> I downloaded Archtetypes 1.3.7 bundle, and the
readme.txt mentions to
> run the "quickinstaller_tool", there's no
such file in the Archetypes
> directory structure... ??

archetypes comes with modern plones, I believe since plone
2.0.0

> Any guidance would be most appreciated.

well.. programmatically you want to influence the
SearchableText index to
index word documents.  this is a zope/python issue not
something
particular to Plone/Archetypes.  Although you could make it
so
SearchableText of a Archetype would return a string that
would be
consumable by the catalog index.

> What are the odds that the next version of plone and
index and search
> office docs out of the box?

limited if any.  its a REAL PITA.  what we should do is
focus on
documentation and the best way to accomplish this indexing. 
then if
everyone can agree on a strategy - it can end up in Plone.

also some tools work on linux but not on windows.  we have a
portal_transforms Word COM transformation we have
contributed - several
people have gotten that to work.

alan



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