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Confused
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United States
2008-03-11 12:52:26
Hi,

I'm a bit confused about this scenario!

A user calls me and complains that a particular person
emails him but he never receives the mails..

So I look at the log file and I see this:

Mar  9 12:19:44 incc postfix/smtpd[1395]: NOQUEUE: reject:
RCPT from blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]:
450 4.7.1 <userdomain.com>: Recipient address
rejected: Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
Mar  9 12:20:44 incc postfix/smtpd[1395]: NOQUEUE: reject:
RCPT from blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]:
450 4.7.1 <userdomain.com>: Recipient address
rejected: Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
Mar  9 12:22:52 incc postfix/smtpd[1446]: NOQUEUE: reject:
RCPT from blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]:
450 4.7.1 <userdomain.com>: Recipient address
rejected: Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
Mar  9 12:26:00 incc postgrey[31847]: delayed 496 seconds:
client=blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com, from=abz2plzmsn.com,
to=userdomain.com 

Then, 

mail.info.0:Mar  9 12:26:08 incc postfix/pickup[1243]:
D36DA404EF: uid=1000 from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
mail.log:Mar 11 14:53:53 incc postfix/pickup[19818]:
6C82C50173: uid=1000 from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
mail.log:Mar 11 14:58:52 incc postfix/pickup[19818]:
66069404FB: uid=1000 from=<abz2plzmsn.com>

No more greylisting ?

I see no whitelist message ..

I'm just curious as to why all of a sudden it worked. Is
that because the msn.com servers are not working correctly
or is there something I'm not grasping about how it works.

Thanks in advance,


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Re: Confused
country flaguser name
South Africa
2008-03-11 13:21:19
Jerry,

Greylisting only blocks the sender/receiver/server triplet
the first 
time, thereafter it is allowed immediately without delay.

Nicki

Jerry Rocteur wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a bit confused about this scenario!
>
> A user calls me and complains that a particular person
emails him but he never receives the mails..
>
> So I look at the log file and I see this:
>
> Mar  9 12:19:44 incc postfix/smtpd[1395]: NOQUEUE:
reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
> Mar  9 12:20:44 incc postfix/smtpd[1395]: NOQUEUE:
reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
> Mar  9 12:22:52 incc postfix/smtpd[1446]: NOQUEUE:
reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
> Mar  9 12:26:00 incc postgrey[31847]: delayed 496
seconds: client=blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com,
from=abz2plzmsn.com, to=userdomain.com 
>
> Then, 
>
> mail.info.0:Mar  9 12:26:08 incc postfix/pickup[1243]:
D36DA404EF: uid=1000 from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
> mail.log:Mar 11 14:53:53 incc postfix/pickup[19818]:
6C82C50173: uid=1000 from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
> mail.log:Mar 11 14:58:52 incc postfix/pickup[19818]:
66069404FB: uid=1000 from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
>
> No more greylisting ?
>
> I see no whitelist message ..
>
> I'm just curious as to why all of a sudden it worked.
Is that because the msn.com servers are not working
correctly or is there something I'm not grasping about how
it works.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>   

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Re: Confused
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-12 07:29:10
To clarify...the sender/receiver/server triplet is
greylisted/blocked for 
a period of time, at first.  I believe the default time is 5
or 6 minutes.

After that period of time, if the sending server retries,
the messages 
will be allowed in.

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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Nicki de Wet wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> Greylisting only blocks the sender/receiver/server
triplet the first
> time, thereafter it is allowed immediately without
delay.
>
> Nicki
>
> Jerry Rocteur wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a bit confused about this scenario!
>>
>> A user calls me and complains that a particular
person emails him but he never receives the mails..
>>
>> So I look at the log file and I see this:
>>
>> Mar  9 12:19:44 incc postfix/smtpd[1395]: NOQUEUE:
reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
>> Mar  9 12:20:44 incc postfix/smtpd[1395]: NOQUEUE:
reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
>> Mar  9 12:22:52 incc postfix/smtpd[1446]: NOQUEUE:
reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
>> Mar  9 12:26:00 incc postgrey[31847]: delayed 496
seconds: client=blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com,
from=abz2plzmsn.com, to=userdomain.com
>>
>> Then,
>>
>> mail.info.0:Mar  9 12:26:08 incc
postfix/pickup[1243]: D36DA404EF: uid=1000
from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
>> mail.log:Mar 11 14:53:53 incc
postfix/pickup[19818]: 6C82C50173: uid=1000
from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
>> mail.log:Mar 11 14:58:52 incc
postfix/pickup[19818]: 66069404FB: uid=1000
from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
>>
>> No more greylisting ?
>>
>> I see no whitelist message ..
>>
>> I'm just curious as to why all of a sudden it
worked. Is that because the msn.com servers are not working
correctly or is there something I'm not grasping about how
it works.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Confused
country flaguser name
Denmark
2008-03-12 20:05:30
Is it somehow possible to tweak the greylisting such that it
will only
use the tuple of sender/server? This way the sending person
will not
have to be whitelisted for email sent to a given server.

/Jacob Volstrup

ons, 12 03 2008 kl. 08:29 -0400, skrev Mike Burger: 
> To clarify...the sender/receiver/server triplet is
greylisted/blocked for 
> a period of time, at first.  I believe the default time
is 5 or 6 minutes.
> 
> After that period of time, if the sending server
retries, the messages 
> will be allowed in.
> 
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> 
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Nicki de Wet wrote:
> 
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Greylisting only blocks the sender/receiver/server
triplet the first
> > time, thereafter it is allowed immediately without
delay.
> >
> > Nicki
> >
> > Jerry Rocteur wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm a bit confused about this scenario!
> >>
> >> A user calls me and complains that a
particular person emails him but he never receives the
mails..
> >>
> >> So I look at the log file and I see this:
> >>
> >> Mar  9 12:19:44 incc postfix/smtpd[1395]:
NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
> >> Mar  9 12:20:44 incc postfix/smtpd[1395]:
NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
> >> Mar  9 12:22:52 incc postfix/smtpd[1446]:
NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com[65.55.175.156]: 450 4.7.1
<userdomain.com>: Recipient address rejected:
Greylisted, see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/domain.com.h
tml; from=<abz2plzmsn.com> to=<userdomain.com> proto=ESMTP
helo=<blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com>
> >> Mar  9 12:26:00 incc postgrey[31847]: delayed
496 seconds: client=blu139-omc1-s16.blu139.hotmail.com,
from=abz2plzmsn.com, to=userdomain.com
> >>
> >> Then,
> >>
> >> mail.info.0:Mar  9 12:26:08 incc
postfix/pickup[1243]: D36DA404EF: uid=1000
from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
> >> mail.log:Mar 11 14:53:53 incc
postfix/pickup[19818]: 6C82C50173: uid=1000
from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
> >> mail.log:Mar 11 14:58:52 incc
postfix/pickup[19818]: 66069404FB: uid=1000
from=<abz2plzmsn.com>
> >>
> >> No more greylisting ?
> >>
> >> I see no whitelist message ..
> >>
> >> I'm just curious as to why all of a sudden it
worked. Is that because the msn.com servers are not working
correctly or is there something I'm not grasping about how
it works.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Confused
country flaguser name
Germany
2008-03-13 03:56:32
Zitat von Jacob Volstrup <volstrups-et.aau.dk>:

> Is it somehow possible to tweak the greylisting such
that it will only
> use the tuple of sender/server? This way the sending
person will not
> have to be whitelisted for email sent to a given
server.
>
> /Jacob Volstrup

Use the "auto-whitelist" feature..

Regards

Andreas


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