Account-Setup usability

Hi.
Don't know if you already have something like a string
freeze, but as a user I 
find the buttons in the account-setup dialog very confusing,
I almost always 
get the "Save" and "Close" buttons
wrong. "Save" doesn't actually "Save" 
anything, but it Saves _and_ Closes, while "Close"
does not "save". The 
classic captions for those kinds of buttons would be
"Ok" and "Cancel", which 
almost everybody already knows from windows, and are very
precise in their 
semantics.
The current captions tend to be confused with Apples/Gnomes
UI Philosophy, 
where _closing_ a dialog IIRC implies saving the changes
(which are actually 
supposed to already be applied by the time you make them) 

Wolfgang
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> The classic captions for those kinds of buttons would
be "Ok" and "Cancel", which
> almost everybody already knows from windows, and are
very precise in their
> semantics.

I agree. This does not fall under the string freeze, since
those
strings are already present.
Over time, all 'ok' and 'cancel' button bars will be
replaced by qt's
button bars (which has platform-dependent orders etc.)
anyway, so
changing these is always a good first step.

cheers,
Remko
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On Wednesday 19 September 2007 6:25 am, Remko Tronçon
wrote:
> > The classic captions for those kinds of buttons
would be "Ok" and
> > "Cancel", which almost everybody already
knows from windows, and are very
> > precise in their semantics.
>
> I agree. This does not fall under the string freeze,
since those
> strings are already present.
> Over time, all 'ok' and 'cancel' button bars will be
replaced by qt's
> button bars (which has platform-dependent orders etc.)
anyway, so
> changing these is always a good first step.

Many Psi dialogs deliberately avoid the use of Ok/Cancel
wording, which I 
believe is one of the suggestions in the Mac HIG.  Other
platforms are 
expecting Ok/Cancel though, so this is probably not
something we want to do 
everywhere.  (Same goes for button ordering, Psi dialogs
have a tendency to 
follow the Mac guideline there as well).

-Justin
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On 9/19/07, Justin Karneges <justin-psi2affinix.com> wrote:
> Many Psi dialogs deliberately avoid the use of
Ok/Cancel wording, which I
> believe is one of the suggestions in the Mac HIG. 
Other platforms are
> expecting Ok/Cancel though, so this is probably not
something we want to do
> everywhere.  (Same goes for button ordering, Psi
dialogs have a tendency to
> follow the Mac guideline there as well).

Yeah, unfortunately it ends up looking "backwards"
on Windows.

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> Many Psi dialogs deliberately avoid the use of
Ok/Cancel wording, which I
> believe is one of the suggestions in the Mac HIG.

Renaming 'ok/cancel' to 'save/close' is not going by the Mac
HIG
AFAIK. Removing both buttons *is* (i.e. only use the close
button on
the account settings and/or preferences dialog, and always
save
settings). Moreover, it's currently not consistent with the
preferences dialog (which does use ok/cancel).

cheers,
Remko
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