Plea to distribute debugging lib

Trent Mick <trentm <at> ActiveState.com> writes:

> 
> [Thomas Heller wrote]
> > Anyway, AFAIK, the activestate distribution
contains Python debug dlls.
> 
> [Er, a month late, but I was in flitting around
Australia at the time. ]
> 
> Yes, as a separate download.
> 
>     ftp://ftp.activestate.com/ActivePython/etc/
>        
ActivePython-<version>-win32-ix86-debug.zip
> 
> And those should be binary compatible with the
equivalent python.org
> installs as well. Note that the simple
"install.py" script in those
> packages bails if the Python installation isn't
ActivePython, but I
> could easily remove that if you think that would be
useful for your
> users.

The only problem here is that there appears to be a lag in
the release of
ActivePython after Python itself is released.

Is there any chance of putting up just the debugging
libraries a little earlier?

Thanks again,
Dave


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Dave Abrahams schrieb:
> The only problem here is that there appears to be a lag
in the release of
> ActivePython after Python itself is released.
> 
> Is there any chance of putting up just the debugging
libraries a little earlier?

I may be out of context here: what is the precise problem in
producing
them yourself? Why do you need somebody else to do it for
you?

Regards,
Martin
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"Martin v. Löwis" <martinv.loewis.de> writes:

> Dave Abrahams schrieb:
>> The only problem here is that there appears to be a
lag in the release of
>> ActivePython after Python itself is released.
>> 
>> Is there any chance of putting up just the
debugging libraries a little earlier?
>
> I may be out of context here: what is the precise
problem in producing
> them yourself? Why do you need somebody else to do it
for you?

At the moment I have too weak a server to provide those
files, but
that will change very soon.  All that said, the Python and
ActiveState
teams need to be aware of each and every Python release and
go through
a standard release procedure anyway, whereas -- except for
this
problem -- I would not.  I'm willing to try to add it if
that's what
works, and of course it's easy for me to say, but I think it
adds a
lot more overhead for me than it would for the other two
groups.

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David Abrahams schrieb:
 > At the moment I have too weak a server to provide
those files, but
> that will change very soon.  All that said, the Python
and ActiveState
> teams need to be aware of each and every Python release
and go through
> a standard release procedure anyway, whereas -- except
for this
> problem -- I would not.  I'm willing to try to add it
if that's what
> works, and of course it's easy for me to say, but I
think it adds a
> lot more overhead for me than it would for the other
two groups.

It's a significant amount of work, either way. It will be
larger for you
when you do it the first time; after that, it will be the
same amount of
work for you that it would be for me. It will be easier for
you than
for me as you won't be acting under time pressure (whereas
additional
actions from me will delay the entire Python release, which,
due to
timezones, already significantly suffers from the need to
create Windows
binaries).

I'm not sure whether you are requesting these for yourself
or for
somebody else. If for somebody else, that somebody else
should seriously
consider building Python himself, and publishing the result.

Regards,
Martin

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"Martin v. Löwis" <martinv.loewis.de> writes:

> I'm not sure whether you are requesting these for
yourself or for
> somebody else. If for somebody else, that somebody else
should seriously
> consider building Python himself, and publishing the
result.

I'm requesting it for the many Boost.Python (heck, all
Python 'C' API)
users who find it a usability hurdle when their first visual
studio
projects fail to work properly in the default mode (debug)
just
because they don't have the right Python libraries.


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David Abrahams schrieb:
>> I'm not sure whether you are requesting these for
yourself or for
>> somebody else. If for somebody else, that somebody
else should seriously
>> consider building Python himself, and publishing
the result.
> 
> I'm requesting it for the many Boost.Python (heck, all
Python 'C' API)
> users who find it a usability hurdle when their first
visual studio
> projects fail to work properly in the default mode
(debug) just
> because they don't have the right Python libraries.

And there is not one of them who would be willing and able
to build
a debug release, and distribute that????

Regards,
Martin
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"Martin v. Löwis" <martinv.loewis.de> writes:

> David Abrahams schrieb:
>>> I'm not sure whether you are requesting these
for yourself or for
>>> somebody else. If for somebody else, that
somebody else should seriously
>>> consider building Python himself, and
publishing the result.
>> 
>> I'm requesting it for the many Boost.Python (heck,
all Python 'C' API)
>> users who find it a usability hurdle when their
first visual studio
>> projects fail to work properly in the default mode
(debug) just
>> because they don't have the right Python libraries.
>
> And there is not one of them who would be willing and
able to build
> a debug release, and distribute that????

I don't know.

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