Python developers are in demand

I keep getting regular requests from people looking for
Python coders
(and this is in addition to Google asking me to hand over my
contacts
. This
is good news because it suggests Python is on the uptake
(always good to know). At the same time it is disturbing
because
apparently there aren't enough Python programmers out there.
(At least
none of them looking for work.) What's up with that?

I wonder if we should start maintaining a list of Python
developers
for hire somewhere on python.org, beyond the existing Jobs
page. Is
anyone interested in organizing this?

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--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~
guido/)
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On 10/12/07, Guido van Rossum <guidopython.org> wrote:
> I keep getting regular requests from people looking for
Python coders
> (and this is in addition to Google asking me to hand
over my contacts
> .
This is good news because it suggests Python is on the
uptake
> (always good to know).

Yeah, I have noticed as well.  I have seen an increase in
random
emails from people looking for Python developers.

> At the same time it is disturbing because
> apparently there aren't enough Python programmers out
there. (At least
> none of them looking for work.) What's up with that?
>

It's still not taught in schools.  I still rarely see a new
grad
student in my lab who has used Python before they meet me. 
And even
after I give a Python tutorial to the lab and people realize
it's a
great language, they wait until a project comes up where
they need to
start from scratch to use it.  Unfortunately that project
never comes
up.

So I would guess the only people becoming new Python
programmers are
either the self-motivated people who are curious about the
language or
people whose job requires it.

> I wonder if we should start maintaining a list of
Python developers
> for hire somewhere on python.org, beyond the existing
Jobs page. Is
> anyone interested in organizing this?

You thinking like contractors or anyone out of work?

-Brett
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Guido van Rossum wrote:
> I keep getting regular requests from people looking for
Python coders
> (and this is in addition to Google asking me to hand
over my contacts
>  
. This is good news because it suggests Python is on the
uptake
> (always good to know). At the same time it is
disturbing because
> apparently there aren't enough Python programmers out
there. (At least
> none of them looking for work.) What's up with that?

I know at least one Python developer who is looking for a
Python job -
me. :]

The problem may be related to the fact that Python is rarely
teached at
school or university. I know no school or university in
Germany that is
teaching Python. It's mostly Pascal, Basic or C derivates at
school and
C/C++, Java or nowadays C# at university. Some courses of
studies even
teach PHP or Flash!
On the other hand Python is gaining big momentum in science.
A friend of
mine who works at CERN once told me that they use Python as
a glue and
front end language for their problems.

less teaching + growing demand = lack of available
developers

> I wonder if we should start maintaining a list of
Python developers
> for hire somewhere on python.org, beyond the existing
Jobs page. Is
> anyone interested in organizing this?

There is definitely an interest in having a list of
available
developers. What would it take to organize a list? How do we
avoid to
create yet another XING (http://en.wikipedia
.org/wiki/XING), LinkedIn
(http://en.wikip
edia.org/wiki/LinkedIn) or SourceForge Marketplace
clone? Could we collaborate with one or multiple major
players in the
job market?

Christian
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> The problem may be related to the fact that Python is
rarely teached at
> school or university. I know no school or university in
Germany that is
> teaching Python.

I teach Python to the first semester, at the
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
in Potsdam, for the third year now.

Regards,
Martin
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>I wonder if we should start maintaining a list of Python
developers
>for hire somewhere on python.org, beyond the existing
Jobs page. Is
>anyone interested in organizing this?

What about something a little less formal - a mailing list
such as
python-jobs?

-- 
Andrew McNamara, Senior Developer, Object Craft
http://www.object-cra
ft.com.au/
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    >> I wonder if we should start maintaining a list
of Python developers
    >> for hire somewhere on python.org, beyond the
existing Jobs page. Is
    >> anyone interested in organizing this?

    Andrew> What about something a little less formal - a
mailing list such
    Andrew> as python-jobs?

How about just creating a page on the wiki and letting those
people
participate who are interested?  

Skip
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On 10/16/07, Wolfgang Langner <tds333+pydevgmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/15/07, skippobox.com <skippobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >     >> I wonder if we should start
maintaining a list of Python developers
> >     >> for hire somewhere on python.org,
beyond the existing Jobs page. Is
> >     >> anyone interested in organizing
this?
> >
> >     Andrew> What about something a little less
formal - a mailing list such
> >     Andrew> as python-jobs?
> >
> > How about just creating a page on the wiki and
letting those people
> > participate who are interested?
>

That's a good idea.
Post the page and I add my name.
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Guido van Rossum <guido <at> python.org>
writes:

> I wonder if we should start maintaining a list of
Python developers
> for hire somewhere on python.org, beyond the existing
Jobs page. Is
> anyone interested in organizing this?

I would be definitely interested in putting my name on such
a list. 




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On 10/12/07, Guido van Rossum <guidopython.org> wrote:
> I keep getting regular requests from people looking for
Python coders
> (and this is in addition to Google asking me to hand
over my contacts
> .
This is good news because it suggests Python is on the
uptake
> (always good to know). At the same time it is
disturbing because
> apparently there aren't enough Python programmers out
there. (At least
> none of them looking for work.) What's up with that?

At least from my perspective, all the jobs are in web
applications,
and all the Python developers I know are traditional
applications
programmers, not web developers.

--
Nick
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2007/10/24, Nicholas Bastin <nick.bastingmail.com>:
> On 10/12/07, Guido van Rossum <guidopython.org> wrote:
> > I keep getting regular requests from people
looking for Python coders
> > (and this is in addition to Google asking me to
hand over my contacts
> > . This is
good news because it suggests Python is on the uptake
> > (always good to know). At the same time it is
disturbing because
> > apparently there aren't enough Python programmers
out there. (At least
> > none of them looking for work.) What's up with
that?
>
> At least from my perspective, all the jobs are in web
applications,
> and all the Python developers I know are traditional
applications
> programmers, not web developers.

Get a new set of friends. 

You can find them on web-sigpython.org.

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~
guido/)
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