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On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Bjørn Stabell wrote:
> If there's
> general agreement that Python eggs is the future way of
distributing
> packages, why not call the command "egg",
similar to the way many
> other package managers are named after the packages,
e.g., rpm, port,
> gem?
+1
> Next, where do you find eggs? This might not be a big
issue if the
> "egg" command is configured properly by
default, but I'd offer my
> thoughts. I know the cheeseshop just changed name back
to PyPI
> again. In my opinion, neither of the names are good in
that they
> don't help people remember; any Monty Python connection
is lost on
> the big masses, and PyPI is hard to spell, not very
obvious, and a
> confusing clash with the also-prominent PyPy project.
Why not call
> the place for eggs just eggs? I.e., http://eggs.python.org/
+1 -- nice!
> THE COMMAND LINE PACKAGE MANAGEMENT TOOL
>
> The "egg" command should enable you to at
least find, show info for,
> install, and uninstall packages. I think the most
common way to do
> command line tools like this is to offer sub-commands,
a la, bzr,
> port, svn, apt-get, gem, so I suggest:
>
> egg - list out a help of commands
> egg search - search for eggs (aliases: find/list)
> egg info - show info for egg (aliases: show/details)
> egg install - install named eggs
> egg uninstall - uninstall eggs (aliases:
remove/purge/delete)
>
> so you can do:
>
> egg search bittorrent
>
> to find all packages that have anything to do with
bittorrent (full-
> text search of the package index), and then:
>
> egg install iTorrent
>
> to actually download and install the package.
Yes, yes, yes, +1.
> Optional: These days XMLRPC (and the WS-Deathstar)
seems to be losing
> steam to REST, so I think we'd gain a lot of
"hackability" by
> enabling a REST interface for accessing packages.
+1
> Eventually we probably need to enforce package
signing.
+1
> It'd be good for "egg" to support both
system- and user-wide
> configurations, and to support downloading from several
package
> indexes, like apt-get does.
And it would be nice if Python could be adapted to provide
for user-
specific site-packages so that PYTHONPATH hackery isn't
necessary.
Bjorn, I wish I had time to help, but I like where you're
going with
this. I think it would greatly improve the utility of
eggs.
- -Barry
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