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issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 09:42:41

I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element] != undefined &&     Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks.
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 09:46:57

woops. error on my part. i'll release a fix to 1.6.2 shortly. -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element] != undefined && Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 09:54:38

Btw, can you provide a online URL with this? I've now tested in all browsers, and while there is a problem in the 1.6.2 code, the functional tests seems to work well despite the problem. Do you use any special options (reverteffect/starteffect/endeffect)? -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element] != undefined && Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 09:58:06

Yes, I override the default "endeffect" and the line "Draggable._dragging[element] = false"; is not executed. 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com"> t.fuchswollzelle.com>: Btw, can you provide a online URL with this? I've now tested in all browsers, and while there is a problem in the 1.6.2 code, the functional tests seems to work well despite the problem. Do you use any special options (reverteffect/starteffect/endeffect)? -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element ] != undefined &&     Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[ this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net   http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 09:58:20

No problem!! 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com">t.fuchswollzelle.com>: woops. error on my part. i'll release a fix to 1.6.2 shortly. -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element ] != undefined &&     Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[ this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net   http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 10:00:46

I still can't reproduce this. :( If possible please provide a URL for it, plus state Browser/OS. I really want to fix this... -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:58 schrieb Javier Martinez: Yes, I override the default "endeffect" and the line "Draggable._dragging[element] = false" is not executed. 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com"> t.fuchswollzelle.com>: Btw, can you provide a online URL with this? I've now tested in all browsers, and while there is a problem in the 1.6.2 code, the functional tests seems to work well despite the problem. Do you use any special options (reverteffect/starteffect/endeffect)? -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element ] != undefined && Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[ this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 10:12:57

I can't provide you a URL because the project I'm working is on development. But the draggables that fails are the draggables that have a "endeffect" overriding the default one on the dragdrop.js file. The browser I'm using is firefox and the os is xp pro. I think that the behavior is normal, because I'm overriding the function "Draggable._dragging[element] = false"; but maybe this is not the place where to put this line of code ( If I write this line on my endeffect function, all is OK again ). 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com">t.fuchswollzelle.com>: I still can't reproduce this. :( If possible please provide a URL for it, plus state Browser/OS. I really want to fix this... -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:58 schrieb Javier Martinez: Yes, I override the default "endeffect" and the line "Draggable._dragging[element] = false"; is not executed. 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> t.fuchswollzelle.com>: Btw, can you provide a online URL with this? I've now tested in all browsers, and while there is a problem in the 1.6.2 code, the functional tests seems to work well despite the problem. Do you use any special options (reverteffect/starteffect/endeffect)? -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element ] != undefined &&     Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[ this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net   http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net   http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 10:34:49

ah, online endeffect, but not overriding starteffect. hmm. i guess i'll come up with a fix for this. thanks for reporting! -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 12:12 schrieb Javier Martinez: I can't provide you a URL because the project I'm working is on development. But the draggables that fails are the draggables that have a "endeffect" overriding the default one on the dragdrop.js file. The browser I'm using is firefox and the os is xp pro. I think that the behavior is normal, because I'm overriding the function "Draggable._dragging[element] = false" but maybe this is not the place where to put this line of code ( If I write this line on my endeffect function, all is OK again ). 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com">t.fuchswollzelle.com>: I still can't reproduce this. :( If possible please provide a URL for it, plus state Browser/OS. I really want to fix this... -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:58 schrieb Javier Martinez: Yes, I override the default "endeffect" and the line "Draggable._dragging[element] = false" is not executed. 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> t.fuchswollzelle.com>: Btw, can you provide a online URL with this? I've now tested in all browsers, and while there is a problem in the 1.6.2 code, the functional tests seems to work well despite the problem. Do you use any special options (reverteffect/starteffect/endeffect)? -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element ] != undefined && Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[ this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 10:36:52

So, a new version is now available from SVN (revision 4772), can you give this a try? Best, Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 12:12 schrieb Javier Martinez: I can't provide you a URL because the project I'm working is on development. But the draggables that fails are the draggables that have a "endeffect" overriding the default one on the dragdrop.js file. The browser I'm using is firefox and the os is xp pro. I think that the behavior is normal, because I'm overriding the function "Draggable._dragging[element] = false" but maybe this is not the place where to put this line of code ( If I write this line on my endeffect function, all is OK again ). 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com">t.fuchswollzelle.com>: I still can't reproduce this. :( If possible please provide a URL for it, plus state Browser/OS. I really want to fix this... -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:58 schrieb Javier Martinez: Yes, I override the default "endeffect" and the line "Draggable._dragging[element] = false" is not executed. 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> t.fuchswollzelle.com>: Btw, can you provide a online URL with this? I've now tested in all browsers, and while there is a problem in the 1.6.2 code, the functional tests seems to work well despite the problem. Do you use any special options (reverteffect/starteffect/endeffect)? -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element ] != undefined && Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[ this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before
issue with last update to scriptaculous
	2006-08-16 10:51:59

jejeje good fix Now it seems that works well! 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com">t.fuchswollzelle.com>: So, a new version is now available from SVN (revision 4772), can you give this a try? Best, Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 12:12 schrieb Javier Martinez: I can't provide you a URL because the project I'm working is on development. But the draggables that fails are the draggables that have a "endeffect" overriding the default one on the dragdrop.js file. The browser I'm using is firefox and the os is xp pro. I think that the behavior is normal, because I'm overriding the function "Draggable._dragging[element] = false"; but maybe this is not the place where to put this line of code ( If I write this line on my endeffect function, all is OK again ). 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">t.fuchswollzelle.com>: I still can't reproduce this. :( If possible please provide a URL for it, plus state Browser/OS. I really want to fix this... -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:58 schrieb Javier Martinez: Yes, I override the default "endeffect" and the line "Draggable._dragging[element] = false"; is not executed. 2006/8/16, Thomas Fuchs <wollzelle.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> t.fuchswollzelle.com>: Btw, can you provide a online URL with this? I've now tested in all browsers, and while there is a problem in the 1.6.2 code, the functional tests seems to work well despite the problem. Do you use any special options (reverteffect/starteffect/endeffect)? -Thomas Am 16.08.2006 um 11:42 schrieb Javier Martinez: I'm testint last scriptaculous update on a project, and I observed some issue with draggables. Now, I only can drag a layer one time. When the draggable deactivates, not activates again. I have seen that the error comes on this line ( on initDrag function ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   if(typeof Draggable._dragging[this.element ] != undefined &&     Draggable._dragging[this.element ]) return; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First time, "typeof Draggable._dragging[ this.element]" is undefined ( then the draggable activates ), but when I release the mouse and try to move the layer again, it has "boolean" value and the draggable don't activates. Somebody knows why? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net   http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs -- Thomas Fuchs wollzelle http://www.wollzelle.com questentier on AIM madrobby on irc.freenode.net   http://www.fluxiom.com :: online digital asset management http://script.aculo.us :: Web 2.0 JavaScript http://mir.aculo.us :: Where no web developer has gone before _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list lists.rubyonrails.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Rails-spinoffslists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs