legality

I don't have an answer to this but before Adobe would come
after red5
I believe they'd go after wowza seeing as they are a
commercial
product competing head to head with FMS and winning some
business
away...  indeed red5 is making headway but I'm not sure it
poses as
much of a threat, yet, as wowza does.

Just my random thought...

Jake

On 10/26/07, Dean Collins <Deancognation.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> One thing that's not completely clear to the Red5 team
is the legality of
> creating such a product. Project manager John Grden
commented: "As far as
> the legalities of protecting the actual protocol, we
don't have an answer.
> We've been told that if we're using a protocol for
interoperability, then we
> are fine within U.S. law. However, we've been told by
Macromedia that they
> have a right to protect what they've invested in, which
would include FMS
> and RTMP. That doesn't mean that they're threatening
us; I think that
> they're trying to decide what they're going to do. I
think one thing that's
> clear is that they're unprepared for open source, and
Red5 has caught them a
> little bit off guard."
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been trying to find some posts in the archives and
other online sources
> as to what is/was the outcome of this concern?
>  Has Adobe give Red5 it's blessing or is it still
trying to work out what to
> do?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dean Collins
>  Cognation Pty Ltd
>  deancognation.net
>  +1-212-203-4357 Ph
>  +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
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Hi Dean,

for legal questions, check out the links on this page:
http://osflash.org/red5/f
ud

hth,

Thijs

On Fri, October 26, 2007 9:35 pm, Dean Collins wrote:
> One thing that's not completely clear to the Red5 team
is the legality
> of creating such a product. Project manager John Grden
commented: "As
> far as the legalities of protecting the actual
protocol, we don't have
> an answer. We've been told that if we're using a
protocol for
> interoperability, then we are fine within U.S. law.
However, we've been
> told by Macromedia that they have a right to protect
what they've
> invested in, which would include FMS and RTMP. That
doesn't mean that
> they're threatening us; I think that they're trying to
decide what
> they're going to do. I think one thing that's clear is
that they're
> unprepared for open source, and Red5 has caught them a
little bit off
> guard."
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been trying to find some posts in the archives and
other online
> sources as to what is/was the outcome of this concern?
> Has Adobe give Red5 it's blessing or is it still trying
to work out what
> to do?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dean Collins
> Cognation Pty Ltd
> deancognation.net
> <mailto:deancognation.net> +1-212-203-4357 Ph
> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
>
>
>
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> 
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I would also point out that the statement that John made is
quite old
now. That was back in the very early days of developing
Red5. The FUD
article that Thijs cites here is still relevant though.

-Chris

On 10/26/07, Thijs Triemstra | Collab <listscollab.nl> wrote:
> Hi Dean,
>
> for legal questions, check out the links on this page:
> http://osflash.org/red5/f
ud
>
> hth,
>
> Thijs
>
> On Fri, October 26, 2007 9:35 pm, Dean Collins wrote:
> > One thing that's not completely clear to the Red5
team is the legality
> > of creating such a product. Project manager John
Grden commented: "As
> > far as the legalities of protecting the actual
protocol, we don't have
> > an answer. We've been told that if we're using a
protocol for
> > interoperability, then we are fine within U.S.
law. However, we've been
> > told by Macromedia that they have a right to
protect what they've
> > invested in, which would include FMS and RTMP.
That doesn't mean that
> > they're threatening us; I think that they're
trying to decide what
> > they're going to do. I think one thing that's
clear is that they're
> > unprepared for open source, and Red5 has caught
them a little bit off
> > guard."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been trying to find some posts in the
archives and other online
> > sources as to what is/was the outcome of this
concern?
> > Has Adobe give Red5 it's blessing or is it still
trying to work out what
> > to do?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dean Collins
> > Cognation Pty Ltd
> > deancognation.net
> > <mailto:deancognation.net>
+1-212-203-4357 Ph
> > +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Red5 mailing list
> > Red5osflash.org
> > 
http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
> >
>
>
>
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thanks all - this along with a discussion with an old friend
has set me
straight on some of the red5 issues including whats
happening with FMS3
and Kokomo/Pacifica etc.

I wish the mailing archives lists were searchable thogh 



Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
deancognation.net
+1-212-203-4357 Ph
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: red5-bouncesosflash.org 
> [mailto:red5-bouncesosflash.org] On Behalf Of
Thijs 
> Triemstra | Collab
> Sent: Friday, 26 October 2007 3:55 PM
> To: red5osflash.org
> Subject: Re: [Red5] legality
> 
> Hi Dean,
> 
> for legal questions, check out the links on this page:
> http://osflash.org/red5/f
ud
> 
> hth,
> 
> Thijs
> 
> On Fri, October 26, 2007 9:35 pm, Dean Collins wrote:
> > One thing that's not completely clear to the Red5
team is 
> the legality 
> > of creating such a product. Project manager John
Grden 
> commented: "As 
> > far as the legalities of protecting the actual
protocol, we 
> don't have 
> > an answer. We've been told that if we're using a
protocol for 
> > interoperability, then we are fine within U.S.
law. However, we've 
> > been told by Macromedia that they have a right to
protect 
> what they've 
> > invested in, which would include FMS and RTMP.
That doesn't 
> mean that 
> > they're threatening us; I think that they're
trying to decide what 
> > they're going to do. I think one thing that's
clear is that they're 
> > unprepared for open source, and Red5 has caught
them a 
> little bit off 
> > guard."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been trying to find some posts in the
archives and 
> other online 
> > sources as to what is/was the outcome of this
concern?
> > Has Adobe give Red5 it's blessing or is it still
trying to work out 
> > what to do?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dean Collins
> > Cognation Pty Ltd
> > deancognation.net
> > <mailto:deancognation.net>
+1-212-203-4357 Ph
> > +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
> >
> >
> >
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> > 
http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
> >
> 
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