At last

    I followed the instructions for putting a ascii enclosed
key into 
mit on their web site and it worked. At least it said it
did.

Karl

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On Dec 24, 2007 5:02 AM, Karl Larsen <k5dizianet.com> wrote:
>     I followed the instructions for putting a ascii
enclosed key into
> mit on their web site and it worked. At least it said
it did.
>
> Karl
>
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Karl:

I haven't tested your key yet, but I'll take a leap of faith
and say:

Congratulations

and thanks for hanging in there and working with everybody
to find a
solution, and, as a
result, helping to improve the docs and the process of
getting on board.

Best Wishes,

John Babich

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John Babich wrote:
> On Dec 24, 2007 5:02 AM, Karl Larsen <k5dizianet.com> wrote:
>   
>>     I followed the instructions for putting a ascii
enclosed key into
>> mit on their web site and it worked. At least it
said it did.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> --
>>
>>         Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
>>         Linux User
>>         #450462   http://counter.li.org.
>>    PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C  ECB6 4A3C 2C54
FE23 53A7
>>
>>     
>
> Karl:
>
> I haven't tested your key yet, but I'll take a leap of
faith and say:
>
> Congratulations
>
> and thanks for hanging in there and working with
everybody to find a
> solution, and, as a
> result, helping to improve the docs and the process of
getting on board.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> John Babich
>
>   
    Take nothing on faith 

But I did find out what a ascii enclosed file is and a
sample should be 
in the instructions. I was not aware it is 15 lines of code.
I was 
putting in the 8 bit short ID and the web page barfed.

    Here is what I would like to see in the join
instructions.

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux)

mQGiBEdujCIRBACPBiDeezDnWTWjUV7Scz23tXMYZ7Sa4AAz8aNBRRMCYd65
T5ka
jng2wTpSCrOSoAYfq6B4dk/vt6AKp+buOzxrUAXMqGBIdmMob8WcywuR8pxy
4IWa
WNlZBjknzfh3L0AgBGebyexsjiK2DLsGLJkmYbhdcfENXSQ62omJoKa1ewCg
hQZw
FVL/XLxq4/IHBQZMj2LKMMUD/RSPhwmJny120Sr9xJOV04cnQcv9wQtFgoYz
GTBz
tkjGmDHCLobDR511nwx6EAfUtaxjF0ed08A135xL5Vu/ab8tvyiCSq2wksEV
eiyF
wV3NJVNPr8fBzQm7da2tdloNWqG+SZb9n+Kt0RY31Z5RLW5r85vzyZKDpATP
ysCs
oPiXA/0e3wt71MBmuVoHTswfcxbjLoBbfvEpoKHGqBDqZe//rM1jiDQSLMHb
Hc41
IzwnmN9Oha40coNMrF6NwHyANFMmz0EwkmDTPPp7SwOHhqfYAsv+aSAVD8Mz
80cr
CISqAWK9jRmx+fsMrKeKAiv0U1LDpAnrKcYZRMfQewDTA5Sne7Q2S2FybCBM
YXJz
ZW4gKFRoaXMgaXMgZm9yIEZlZG9yYSBEb2MpIDxrNWRpQHppYW5ldC5jb20+
iGYE
ExECACYFAkdujCICGwMFCQHhM4AGCwkIBwMCBBUCCAMEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAK
CRBK
PCxU/iNTpyeyAJwK4b2CD2M2rlLJ1PFTQglPpa9DRQCaA2r1re1lQBtsWrDh
32ZW
e3ovw+i5Ag0ER26MIhAIAKqXEYP24yhTepp4ohGMinm7NUn7Q32LcK8NeRHV
BTwX
ju9UVkot0XWuZVzYqt5jPqUukMmxV1P5iT84b9/VumVfgGdjXfsIpcaKrFjw
CQ9F
PeRkPOENCq3sXqT6MAKdpyG3AgtJPn3exmIAmv0dCBeWMszB/CJnfOunDO2u
k/qZ
3y8dcsSXkd1lVSmqNW0qwP1wa4/7sTeqiMMKnyA5gu3GzZHYsKkGgUdAa3D5
gnH7
IreMneiFhaFtc0IciPDEeFVdhjzZ/M8XuN20gNrj6INbwYEbM7B05/4rvXqM
ApW0
LBhnNSv3Z8gjshajhduMyVppZi0Fmc/i2TLWSfBx8qcABA0H/RNmiZEAzr+i
cvFa
0vcFcau7SiO10CxgPowxJ1X3E+jfXXKFLgHDG3zb9vzQjbQ89Tszev8IoMni
wmdT
B4olKNzDR+SOgCxFS/vbOsL4Elz3z+79o6hf90s2f/HRIBFWXt8AK9c3VA7k
VExp
BXe6IR/P1xy5bpKQknn9qwyIDYbFo2iS6d6G00j0z9dBl+K0QmQg/IbuyCzQ
WcvE
8d9fqlVT0Q4sjSOhgiAHwWWjigRDVlBEqbuyXwaaYFc0udnF430FJhUSNUpV
YtyG
fPkpHty9/Mn0xYvbqZoIJfY0whhCHxOXRZ1irkvwkvLI/2fX9zbrnunVJwtz
Y9vB
zr8bG/2ITwQYEQIADwUCR26MIgIbDAUJAeEzgAAKCRBKPCxU/iNTp0b3AJ4h
uAoE
9txKfqYxnzgFeof363xhggCfWTXIYjLC0zgA0IkBkda7NaFiU5k=
=oz/M
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----


You say that this is what you send to a server. I was
surprised that the 
file was put in the "clipboard" by seahorse and
the file was paste to 
the MIT web page on Firefox. This step needs some more help
because you 
need to make sure the paste goes to the right window on the
web page.





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On Monday 24 December 2007 12:15:11 pm Karl Larsen wrote:

> You say that this is what you send to a server. I was
surprised that the
> file was put in the "clipboard" by seahorse
and the file was paste to
> the MIT web page on Firefox. This step needs some more
help because you
> need to make sure the paste goes to the right window on
the web page.

I take it you followed my suggestion.

Isn't it much easier, if you want to register a key with
pgp.mit.edu
to go there and follow their instructions?
They seem to me perfectly clear,
which is more than I can say for those in the wiki.


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    I wanted to test the key I put in pgpMIT so using
seahorse I find 
that "Find Remote Keys" will go out on the
Internet and try to match and 
get key data for the key ID you give it from the remote
sites. There are 
two listed.

    I looked for my new key but it was not to be found. I
tried some 
other peoples key and they could not be found either. I have
found my 
own this way in weeks past.

    Why is it not working now? I am an Electrical Engineer
and I can 
visualize what pgpMIT must have in a hardware sense. For
sure it has a 
computer with a database which is backed up very well to
other computers 
at MIT. The problem is some hardware that was hand made or
perhaps 
software written on another computer that can be reached by
the 
Internet. It has to have handshake system that takes data at
unknown 
speed and stores it for a short time. It has to have logic
that knows 
what the input must be, and when it is done. Also it checks
the data it 
saved and if it passes it tells the sender it is done.

    Another program is needed to also listen to the Internet
for a 
person wanting to check/get the public key of someone. This
data is 
shorter like 8 bytes and can be selected in that way. There
are problems 
however with selecting a path based on data length alone. In
any case 
this data is sent to the main computer database and the
proper data 
withdrawn and sent to the remote computer connected to it.
There is a 
rats-nest of loops in such a device and I bet it fails a lot
of the 
time. It gets a lot of garbled data input from the world and
that does 
the trick.

    At this moment I can't reach this server with my
seahorse and I know 
at least in concept why.


Karl

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On Monday 24 December 2007 01:26:59 pm Karl Larsen wrote:

>     I wanted to test the key I put in pgpMIT so using
seahorse I find
> that "Find Remote Keys" will go out on the
Internet and try to match and
> get key data for the key ID you give it from the remote
sites. There are
> two listed.
>
>     I looked for my new key but it was not to be found.
I tried some
> other peoples key and they could not be found either. I
have found my
> own this way in weeks past.

Sigh.
Why use seahorse?
Which is more likely, in your view,
that there is something wrong with seahorse
or that there is something wrong with pgp.mit.edu ?

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On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 12:53 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2007 12:15:11 pm Karl Larsen
wrote:
> 
> > You say that this is what you send to a server. I
was surprised that the
> > file was put in the "clipboard" by
seahorse and the file was paste to
> > the MIT web page on Firefox. This step needs some
more help because you
> > need to make sure the paste goes to the right
window on the web page.
> 
> I take it you followed my suggestion.
> 
> Isn't it much easier, if you want to register a key
with pgp.mit.edu
> to go there and follow their instructions?
> They seem to me perfectly clear,
> which is more than I can say for those in the wiki.

Do you have a URL for those instructions?

I'd like to compare them to the refreshed content at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/UsingG
pg/CreatingKeys.

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