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Vicky, I read your post about the Demodex and lever soap with great
interest. Truly I didn't realize that these mites were so abundant
in the rosacea community. Anyway, was wondering how did you get
ahold of a microscope to check for these mites. It's not like Home
Depot will rent them to you. Also did you have just bumps that were
tiny bumps or larger type with fluid in them? All over or just some
places? Sorry for all the questions.

- In rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com, "vicky.nichols"
<vicky.nichols...> wrote:
&gt;
> Hi Elena,
> I just happened to be experimenting with different soaps... I had
> been using emu oil soap which had been working fine. It had been
> controlling the redness as well as all of the pesky bumps.. I don't
> know if the company had changed formulation but all of the sudden I
> started feel a horrible crawling feeling on my face and the bumps
> started coming back... this was overnight. That's how I determined
> the mite problem... my decision to try Lever 2000 is because that
the
> best soap that I have found that will control my hubby's severe dry
> skin. It was just a thought while I was getting ready to wash my
face
> one day, I realized that the skin on the rest of my body looked
alot
> better that the skin on my face so I decided what the hey.. I've
> tried worst on my face.. (dog shampoo for fleas... ugh.... it
worked
> but really stripped my face, it was great on my hair though. I had
> the softess, shiniest hair... lol)
>; So to answer you question, that's the reason that I tried it... I
> never felt any burning or stinging and I was finally getting rid of
> that constant itch.. I really didn't think it would work, but today
> is day 11 and no new breakouts... and my face has lost that hot
> feeling.. What I have read about the Demodex mite is that the bumps
> are a result of the female laying numberous eggs in one hair
> follicle.. up to 25 I've read so far.. the itch is generally in the
> evenings which is when they surface to mate... (pleasant thought,
> huh?)
&gt; I know that this is a book, and I do apology... I'm just oh so very
> happy that I may be able to face the world without make up... And I
> want to share it... I have had absolutely no problems yet.... no
> flakiness... I'm thinking that is do to with either the asprin and
> witch hazel or the vitamin C inside and out!
> I hope that answered your question...
>
> Good luck too you!!!
&gt;
> Vicky
&gt;
>
>
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com, Elena Mutter <emgm42000>
> wrote:
&gt; >
>; > Hi Vicky,
&gt; >
> > Can I ask what drew you to Lever 2000 soap? It just seems
> unusal and I am curious as to how you made a connection that this
> could be helpful to you. I thought it was a fairly harsh body
> soap. Is there something it contains that peeked your interest?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Elena
&gt; >
> > "vicky.nichols&quot; <vicky.nichols> wrote:
&gt; > hey pete...
> > Have you considered your rosacea may have something to do with
the
> > Demodex mite? I was having the same problem, allergy like
symtoms..
> > runny nose watery eyes not to mention the constant itching... I
> > discovered that working on my immune system using vitamin c that
> the
> > runny nose has subsided.. I have also been using vitamin c
> topically..
> > WARNING doing this does definately burn and tingle at first, but
> the
> > results for me have been amazing.. I'm also using asprin disolved
> in
> > witch hazel...
> >
> > This is what I do:
> >
> > 1)wash face with a very soft wash cloth and lever 2000 bar soap.
> Not
> > the liquid stuff.. I leave on my face for no less than 60
seconds..
> At
> > first this may burn a bit
> >
> > 2)tone face with witch hazel/asprin mixture... 2 asprin to a
> tablespoon
> > of witch hazel.. use all over you face, allow to dry... I even
used
> it
> > this morning on poison ivy that my cat gave to me... lol it
worked
> > great... no itching
> >
> > 3)apply a good moisturizer... something without propolyne
glycol...
> > that stuff is poison and makes my face tomato red...
> >
> > 4)I also crush vitamin c into a very fine powder.. you can buy
the
> > powder either online or at your local pharmacy... if the pharmacy
> > doesn't have it on the shelf, talk to the pharmaracist, it can be
> > order.. but for right now, I'm just using what I have available
at
> > home.. vitamin C 1000 mg tablets crushed... I use a cosmetic
brush
> that
> > I use to apply the powder... definately use a brand new brush
that
> > hasn't been already used.. they can be purchase anywhere that
> cosmetics
> > are sold... get the cheapest one... or have mom or a sister pick
it
> > up... sometimes it hard for guys to buy these things... it's
ok...
> lol
> >
> > I also take 5000 mg of vitamin C by mouth... divide the doses up
> and
> > take with food to avoid stomache problems. I've also started
taking
> > fish oil 3 times a day...
> >
> > I know it seems like alot... but after a week, I'm very impressed
> with
> > my skin.. I have a few marks that at first were a very deep red
> when I
> > started this, that have faded to a very light pink....I haven't
had
> a
> > new eruption in the last 5 days and that one was very short
> lived...
> >
> > I know this is going to sound strange, but I also used dog
shampoo
> for
> > fleas and ticks that contain permethrin on my hair... I found
that
> by
> > using all of this stuff on my face, I had chased the little bugs
> into
> > my hair...
> > The shampoo didn't work.... so this morning.. I just washed my
hair
> > with the Lever 2000...left it on no less then 60 seconds... and
> then
> > rinsed really well... it's not really hair friendly... but so far
I
> > haven't scratched my head...
> >
> > I tried an experiment to find out if DEMODEX was my problem... I
> > applied a heavy cooking oil on my skin and waited 10 minutes, the
> oil
> > will cut off their oxygen and force them to surface....after the
10
> > minutes, I smoothed my hand from chin upwards toward my temple..
I
> felt
> > a very grainy substance... when I looked at my hand, I had
hundreds
> of
> > yellowish/white lint like particles on my hand... under a
> microscope, I
> > could see the head, body and legs of what closely resembled
> Demodex...
> >
> > If you try anything that I've mentioned, keep in mind that your
> > condition may seem like it's getting worse at first.. but if you
> hang
> > with it, you may have the same results... let me know... good
> luck!!!
> >
> > Vicky
&gt; >
> > --- In rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com, Pete Willard
<papapete161>
> > wrote:
&gt; > >
>; > > I would like to know what these drugs help.Do they help with
> > reddness? I also noticed that since i have rosacea i need tissues
> > because my nose runs,has any body had the same problem?
> > > Pete
>; > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
>; >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Yahoo!
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Hi..
There is a community college in my area and I called and talked to
their science lab instructor and explained what I needed to do..
Ironically, the professor suffers for rosacea like symptoms. She's
been battling it for nearly 10 years and she was curious about this
herself. I called EARLY in the morning, told her what I was planning
on doing, took a sample in and she put in under the microscope for
me. I was able to zoom in close enough to see the legs and tail..
they are NOT pretty creatures..
The bumps varied, generally though, they were large hard spots that
burned. The liquid was generally clear. I haven't had any pus filled
pimples in years... I would trade pimples for these horrendous bumps,
at least I know how to treat acne..
The other thing I notice, and I don't mean to be graphic, at night
the itching would be so bad that I would scratch my face in my sleep
and always scratch a bump open. I notice white spots... I think what
I was seeing was the protective cover for the larva. I've read that
the only thing that will disolve the cover is a solution of borax..
found in most grocery stores in the laundry aisle. That will be my
next step if this little experiment.
If you plan on contacting a school to use a microscope, make sure you
take in a sample before you get there. I had a small sample jar with
a tight lid. It holds about a tablespoon of liquid. I had applied the
corn oil to my face and let it set about 10 minutes.. probably don't
need to wait that long... I smoothed my hand over my face from my
chin to my temple, I then used a plastic knife to scrape them from my
hand and transferred them to the jar which was also half filled with
oil. I also scraped the opposite side of my face with the dull side
of the knife, be careful if you do that... don't want to tear skin.
I hope this helps. My community colleges will let you come in if you
call them and explain what your doing. If you have high school kids,
you may want to check with your high school.
I do apologize for the length... I really hope this helps.
vicky

--- In rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com, "squrlee" <DDavleedurham...>
wrote:
>
&gt; Vicky, I read your post about the Demodex and lever soap with
great
> interest. Truly I didn't realize that these mites were so abundant
> in the rosacea community. Anyway, was wondering how did you get
> ahold of a microscope to check for these mites. It's not like Home
> Depot will rent them to you. Also did you have just bumps that
were
> tiny bumps or larger type with fluid in them? All over or just
some
> places? Sorry for all the questions.
>
>
>
> - In rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com, "vicky.nichols&quot;
> <vicky.nichols> wrote:
&gt; >
>; > Hi Elena,
> > I just happened to be experimenting with different soaps... I had
> > been using emu oil soap which had been working fine. It had been
> > controlling the redness as well as all of the pesky bumps.. I
don't
> > know if the company had changed formulation but all of the sudden
I
> > started feel a horrible crawling feeling on my face and the bumps
> > started coming back... this was overnight. That's how I
determined
> > the mite problem... my decision to try Lever 2000 is because that
> the
> > best soap that I have found that will control my hubby's severe
dry
> > skin. It was just a thought while I was getting ready to wash my
> face
> > one day, I realized that the skin on the rest of my body looked
> alot
> > better that the skin on my face so I decided what the hey.. I've
> > tried worst on my face.. (dog shampoo for fleas... ugh.... it
> worked
> > but really stripped my face, it was great on my hair though. I
had
> > the softess, shiniest hair... lol)
>; > So to answer you question, that's the reason that I tried it... I
> > never felt any burning or stinging and I was finally getting rid
of
> > that constant itch.. I really didn't think it would work, but
today
> > is day 11 and no new breakouts... and my face has lost that hot
> > feeling.. What I have read about the Demodex mite is that the
bumps
> > are a result of the female laying numberous eggs in one hair
> > follicle.. up to 25 I've read so far.. the itch is generally in
the
> > evenings which is when they surface to mate... (pleasant thought,
> > huh?)
&gt; > I know that this is a book, and I do apology... I'm just oh so
very
> > happy that I may be able to face the world without make up... And
I
> > want to share it... I have had absolutely no problems yet.... no
> > flakiness... I'm thinking that is do to with either the asprin
and
> > witch hazel or the vitamin C inside and out!
> > I hope that answered your question...
> >
> > Good luck too you!!!
&gt; >
> > Vicky
&gt; >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com, Elena Mutter <emgm42000>
> > wrote:
&gt; > >
>; > > Hi Vicky,
&gt; > >
> > > Can I ask what drew you to Lever 2000 soap? It just seems
> > unusal and I am curious as to how you made a connection that this
> > could be helpful to you. I thought it was a fairly harsh body
> > soap. Is there something it contains that peeked your interest?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Elena
&gt; > >
> > > "vicky.nichols&quot; <vicky.nichols> wrote:
&gt; > > hey pete...
> > > Have you considered your rosacea may have something to do with
> the
> > > Demodex mite? I was having the same problem, allergy like
> symtoms..
> > > runny nose watery eyes not to mention the constant itching... I
> > > discovered that working on my immune system using vitamin c
that
> > the
> > > runny nose has subsided.. I have also been using vitamin c
> > topically..
> > > WARNING doing this does definately burn and tingle at first,
but
> > the
> > > results for me have been amazing.. I'm also using asprin
disolved
> > in
> > > witch hazel...
> > >
> > > This is what I do:
> > >
> > > 1)wash face with a very soft wash cloth and lever 2000 bar
soap.
> > Not
> > > the liquid stuff.. I leave on my face for no less than 60
> seconds..
> > At
> > > first this may burn a bit
> > >
> > > 2)tone face with witch hazel/asprin mixture... 2 asprin to a
> > tablespoon
> > > of witch hazel.. use all over you face, allow to dry... I even
> used
> > it
> > > this morning on poison ivy that my cat gave to me... lol it
> worked
> > > great... no itching
> > >
> > > 3)apply a good moisturizer... something without propolyne
> glycol...
> > > that stuff is poison and makes my face tomato red...
> > >
> > > 4)I also crush vitamin c into a very fine powder.. you can buy
> the
> > > powder either online or at your local pharmacy... if the
pharmacy
> > > doesn't have it on the shelf, talk to the pharmaracist, it can
be
> > > order.. but for right now, I'm just using what I have available
> at
> > > home.. vitamin C 1000 mg tablets crushed... I use a cosmetic
> brush
> > that
> > > I use to apply the powder... definately use a brand new brush
> that
> > > hasn't been already used.. they can be purchase anywhere that
> > cosmetics
> > > are sold... get the cheapest one... or have mom or a sister
pick
> it
> > > up... sometimes it hard for guys to buy these things... it's
> ok...
> > lol
> > >
> > > I also take 5000 mg of vitamin C by mouth... divide the doses
up
> > and
> > > take with food to avoid stomache problems. I've also started
> taking
> > > fish oil 3 times a day...
> > >
> > > I know it seems like alot... but after a week, I'm very
impressed
> > with
> > > my skin.. I have a few marks that at first were a very deep red
> > when I
> > > started this, that have faded to a very light pink....I haven't
> had
> > a
> > > new eruption in the last 5 days and that one was very short
> > lived...
> > >
> > > I know this is going to sound strange, but I also used dog
> shampoo
> > for
> > > fleas and ticks that contain permethrin on my hair... I found
> that
> > by
> > > using all of this stuff on my face, I had chased the little
bugs
> > into
> > > my hair...
> > > The shampoo didn't work.... so this morning.. I just washed my
> hair
> > > with the Lever 2000...left it on no less then 60 seconds... and
> > then
> > > rinsed really well... it's not really hair friendly... but so
far
> I
> > > haven't scratched my head...
> > >
> > > I tried an experiment to find out if DEMODEX was my problem...
I
> > > applied a heavy cooking oil on my skin and waited 10 minutes,
the
> > oil
> > > will cut off their oxygen and force them to surface....after
the
> 10
> > > minutes, I smoothed my hand from chin upwards toward my
temple..
> I
> > felt
> > > a very grainy substance... when I looked at my hand, I had
> hundreds
> > of
> > > yellowish/white lint like particles on my hand... under a
> > microscope, I
> > > could see the head, body and legs of what closely resembled
> > Demodex...
> > >
> > > If you try anything that I've mentioned, keep in mind that your
> > > condition may seem like it's getting worse at first.. but if
you
> > hang
> > > with it, you may have the same results... let me know... good
> > luck!!!
> > >
> > > Vicky
&gt; > >
> > > --- In rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com, Pete Willard
> <papapete161>
> > > wrote:
&gt; > > >
>; > > > I would like to know what these drugs help.Do they help with
> > > reddness? I also noticed that since i have rosacea i need
tissues
> > > because my nose runs,has any body had the same problem?
> > > > Pete
>; > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
>; > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with
> Yahoo!
> > Search.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
>; >
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