Re: Removing makeup Was:Re: prosacea. over or under

Hey Artist,

A dermatologist I saw probably 20yrs ago recommended Vaseline for my face. I was in my early 30's then and my Rosacea was still a questionable. Is it or isn't it. I went to see him for adult acne. He said almost all cosmetics that are liquid have ingredients in them that clog, even though they say otherwise. So he recommended Vaseline as a moisturizer instead of regular types of moisturizer. Sure enough all my acne cleared up. Also I quit using liquid foundation, using powder instead and have never had an acne problem since. Back then it was hard to find a powder you could use as foundation. He also used Vaseline and he had great looking skin. I used it for probably 15yrs or so and never ever had dry skin or any tightness after washing. It certainly wasn't glamorous in any way, since it left your face greased up looking but it worked great for me. Why can't you use Vaseline on your face for more than a few days? Do you get a reaction of some sort? When I used to use V aseline regularly, the way I would apply it was simply to scoop us some Vaseline on your index finger (maybe a half teaspoon) rub between your fingers so it warms and dissolves between the fingers. Then just press your fingers onto your face. No rubbing needed. That is what seems to irritate my face quite often is any type of rubbing of anything on my face. So using a tissue or baby wipe on my face irritates my skin. Lately I have been using a retinoid on my face. Green Cream. I've heard that retinoids are sometimes not recommended for Rosaceans but I think my face is tolerating it pretty well. Even though it is a very low percentage of retinoid my skin looks better. One of the benefits of retinoids is that it is supposed to shrink pore size, thus it squeezes out anything unwanted in the pores. Some people experience some "purging" when starting GC but I haven't had any troubles.

Thanks for all your great posts and upbeat attitude.

Lee
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Subject: [rosacea] Removing makeup Was:Re: prosacea. over or under

This reminds me. A lot of makeup removers are mostly oil. So, you can
simply remove your makeup with plain oil, and no further washing is
needed. I think this is the best way:

Use an oil your skin likes. I can use Emu oil and/or mineral oil.
Plain mineral oil works very well to remove makeup.

Get a pack of those soft cotton pads used for removing makeup (100%
cotton, the softest ones you can find).

1) Rinse your face with lukewarm water
2) Spread some oil on your face.
3) Put some oil on the cotton pad (this step is important so you don't
cause friction, and it helps remove dirt and makeup more thoroughly).
4) With the oiled pad, gently wipe the makeup off your face.
5) Then rinse your face with a little lukewarm water, and take a dry
cotton pad and very gently dab/wipe off any excess oil.

Do this last step a few times if needed, so only a very, very tiny
amount of oil is left.

Your face feels soft, and it's totally clean. Then, try to skip
washing your face the next morning (maybe just rinse it a few times)
since it doesn't get dirty overnight...

You may notice that lots of products good for rosacea have mineral oil
or petrolatum in them. I can't use straight vaseline on my rosacea for
more than a few days, but my thinking is that the tiny amount of
mineral oil left on your face should be ok, and actually holds in
moisture very well and doesn't have anything in it that would provoke
an immune/allergic reaction.

>From Cosmeticscop.com (Paula Begoun)
"mineral oil. Clear, odorless oil derived from petroleum that is
widely used in cosmetics because it rarely causes allergic reactions
and it cannot become a solid and clog pores. Despite mineral oil's
association with petroleum and the hype that it is bad for skin, keep
in mind that petroleum is a natural ingredient derived from the earth
and that once it becomes mineral oil USP (cosmetics- and
pharmaceutical-grade mineral oil), it has no resemblance to the
original petroleum. Cosmetics-grade mineral oil and petrolatum are
considered the safest, most nonirritating moisturizing ingredients
ever found (Sources: Cosmetics & Toiletries, January 2001, page 79;
and Cosmetic Dermatology, September 2000, pages 44-46). Yes, they can
keep air off the skin to some extent, but that's what a good
antioxidant is supposed to do; they don't suffocate skin! Moreover,
mineral oil and petrolatum are known to be efficacious in wound
healing, and are also among the most effective moisturizing
ingredients available (Source: Cosmetics & Toiletries, February 1998,
pages 33-40).&quot;

Cheers!

Artist

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> I don't know if this would help, but this is what I've started doing. I
> have really oily skin too. Just this week, I've started applying olive
> oil to my face with a warm, damp washcloth. I would imagine using a
> cosmetic sponge would work as well. I leave that on for a few minutes,
> then I wipe off the exess with a warm, wet cloth.. I haven't had any
> break outs on my oily areas and I don't feel a heavy oil feel as I
> would if I were applying olive oil straight...
> I liked the Proascea, but discovered that I couldn't use it because of
> the parabens.
> Good luck and hope some of this helps.
> vicky
>

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Hi Lee: It is my pleasure! Thanks for letting us know Vaseline works
well for you as a moisturizer. Fabulous to hear that your doctor
recommended it for acne, and that it worked so well! I've heard that
about Vaseline and mineral oil, too..that it's non irritating and
non-comedogenic (although it doesn't seem intuitive..) Also, I read a
lot of controversy over mineral oil and vaseline being occlusive and
bad and all that, but it's really very inert and the science shows it
doesn't cause acne or irritation in comparison to other topicals. Of
course there are exceptions..

You know, I am actually not positive about the Vaseline on my rosacea
skin now that I really think about it. I can't be sure since I've
never really tried it properly, making sure nothing else changed.. I
should probably do an experiment to be sure. Perhaps I'll try the
mineral oil method for a while to see how I like it.

Anyone else have good luck with Vaseline?

Cheers! Artist

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> Hey Artist,
>
> A dermatologist I saw probably 20yrs ago recommended Vaseline for my
face. I was in my early 30's then and my Rosacea was still a
questionable. Is it or isn't it. I went to see him for adult acne. He
said almost all cosmetics that are liquid have ingredients in them
that clog, even though they say otherwise. So he recommended Vaseline
as a moisturizer instead of regular types of moisturizer. Sure enough
all my acne cleared up. Also I quit using liquid foundation, using
powder instead and have never had an acne problem since. Back then it
was hard to find a powder you could use as foundation. He also used
Vaseline and he had great looking skin. I used it for probably 15yrs
or so and never ever had dry skin or any tightness after washing. It
certainly wasn't glamorous in any way, since it left your face greased
up looking but it worked great for me. Why can't you use Vaseline on
your face for more than a few days? Do you get a reaction of some
sort? When I used to use Vaseline regularly, the way I would apply
it was simply to scoop us some Vaseline on your index finger (maybe a
half teaspoon) rub between your fingers so it warms and dissolves
between the fingers. Then just press your fingers onto your face. No
rubbing needed. That is what seems to irritate my face quite often is
any type of rubbing of anything on my face. So using a tissue or baby
wipe on my face irritates my skin. Lately I have been using a
retinoid on my face. Green Cream. I've heard that retinoids are
sometimes not recommended for Rosaceans but I think my face is
tolerating it pretty well. Even though it is a very low percentage of
retinoid my skin looks better. One of the benefits of retinoids is
that it is supposed to shrink pore size, thus it squeezes out anything
unwanted in the pores. Some people experience some "purging" when
starting GC but I haven't had any troubles.
>
> Thanks for all your great posts and upbeat attitude.
>
> Lee
>

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