Re: Re: High energy shallow depth

I am actually considering trying a baby aspirin regimen, 81 mg daily, to try and reduce flushing. But you think Aspirin is not a good idea? Or just bad for immediate post treatment recovery?

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From: khm4aim < khm4aim%40yahoo.com">khm4aimyahoo.com>
To: rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 7:19:31 PM
Subject: [rosacea] Re: High energy shallow depth

OOPS sorry = Candula is a plant extract and is very anti inflamatory.

I will probably start Boswellia by mouth while I heal as well.

Asprin not a good idea (sorry for typos, cat on lap)

--- In rosacea-support yahoogroups. com, "gabri_gallo&quot;
<gabri_gallo ...> wrote:
&gt;
> Hi KHM, would you minds saying where (and with whom) you did your
IPL
> in Oregon? Also, what is Canduela gel?
>;
> Thanks!
>
> Gabriella
>
> --- In rosacea-support yahoogroups. com, "khm4aim" <khm4aim> wrote:
&gt; >
>; > OK , I am going to jump right in here -
> >
> > I had a similar reaction to my first (and so far only) vbeam -
> >
> > I remained (slightly) swollen for about 3 months and picked up
> > neuropathic burning all around the edges of the treated areas for
> at
> > least 6 months.
> >
> > To top it off my derm went on vacation after the treatment, so I
> had
> > to deal with the side effects myself for about the first 6 weeks.
&gt; >
> > When he returned he prescribed Protopic - which I used every
night
> > for several months.
> >
> > Over time it did heal and resolve. the next year (about 10
months
> > later) I then went to oregon for an series with 1064 Yag and
IPL.
> > That resolved any lingering issues except for a tiny spot under
one
> > eye that can still burn once in a while.
&gt; >
> > The plus side is I picked up several areas of full clearance from
> > that one treatment-something that IPL does not do for me -, so I
am
> > going to try again, probably with lower power settings.
> >
> > I am hoping that with what I have learned about handling post
> > treatment issues I can keep the upside without so much downside!
> >
> > I will definately be doing a lot of anti inflamitory stuff for
the
> > next several weeks post treatment.
> >
> > You might look into both oral and topical antiinflamatories while
> you
> > are healing (I am going to have a tube of Canduela gel in the
> fridge
> > for when I get home from this one!)
&gt; >
> >
> > I hope you have the same course of healing I did and the issues
> > eventually resolve themselves.
> >
> > Good luck
>; >
> > KHM
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In rosacea-support yahoogroups. com, "nurse_artist&quot;
> > <nurse_artist > wrote:
&gt; > >
>; > > Andrea: That's pretty long after your treatment to still have
> extra
&gt; > > sensitivity and redness there. It's a tough one because such a
> > > sensitive area might be more vulnerable when doing IPL.
> > >
> > > I'd say an experienced IPL doctor needs to be asked, to be
sure.
> > Have
>; > > you gotten any recommendations from your area? If not, you
could
> ask
> > > here in case anyone from your area has gone to someone good..
The
&gt; > > Lumenis One machine is fantastic. You can find a clinic with one
> > > through the link below, and I would interview the doctor/s to
see
> if
> > > you would trust them with your skin.
> > >
> > > There is the Lumenis and the Lumenis One - so be sure to look
up
> the
> > > right one:
>; > >
> > > http://www.skinandh ealth.com/ locator/usStart. html
>; > >
> > > I've also done well with the Photoderm machine. It's not as
> > advanced,
> > > but I'd choose an experienced doc with one of those over a
green
> doc
> > > with the Lumenis One..
&gt; > >
> > > I think IPL can also cause "hyperpigmentation" , which is an
> increase
> > > in your skin color there. Could it be that? Or, are you sure
it's
> > > capillaries?
> > >
> > > I think if it were me, I'd aim toward having a more experienced
> > doctor
&gt; > > fix it, but only they determined that it is surficial
capillaries
> > and
> > > that the treatment would be conservative and not damage the
> > sensitive
> > > area further..
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Artist
&gt; > >
> > >
> > > --- In rosacea-support yahoogroups. com, "jmegnagb"
<andrea5590 >
> > wrote:
&gt; > > >
>; > > > Thank you Artist for your help. I really appreciate it. It
has
> > been 4
> > > > months since that treatment that damaged me. That area is
also
> > ultra
> > > > sensitive. To the gentlemen that has the same problem could
you
> > let me
> > > > know if anything helps, and i will do the same. Thank you.
> Hugs,
> > Andrea
&gt; > > >
>; > >
>; >
>;

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Have anyone been on hormone pills who has Rosacea?? I was wondering what kind of reacting does anyone has?? Or does it works better while on it?
I need to know so I can talk to my doctor about it.
Thanks,
Lauria

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I was just referring to pre and post treatment because it increases
bruising.

Not everyone tolerates aspirin (some people have to limit all
salicylates.

But if you tolerate it this is definately worth a try

I also posted a bit ago about using antihistamines in the AM to avoid
afternoon flushing.

--- In rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com, Pete Pete <nbapoker...>
wrote:
>
&gt; I am actually considering trying a baby aspirin regimen, 81 mg
daily, to try and reduce flushing. But you think Aspirin is not a
good idea? Or just bad for immediate post treatment recovery?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>; From: khm4aim <khm4aim...>
> To: rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 7:19:31 PM
> Subject: [rosacea] Re: High energy shallow depth
&gt;
>
> OOPS sorry = Candula is a plant extract and is very anti
inflamatory.
>;
> I will probably start Boswellia by mouth while I heal as well.
&gt;
> Asprin not a good idea (sorry for typos, cat on lap)
>;
> --- In rosacea-support yahoogroups. com, "gabri_gallo&quot;
> <gabri_gallo ...> wrote:
&gt; >
>; > Hi KHM, would you minds saying where (and with whom) you did your
> IPL
> > in Oregon? Also, what is Canduela gel?
>; >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Gabriella
> >
> > --- In rosacea-support yahoogroups. com, "khm4aim" <khm4aim>
wrote:
> > >
>; > > OK , I am going to jump right in here -
> > >
> > > I had a similar reaction to my first (and so far only) vbeam -
> > >
> > > I remained (slightly) swollen for about 3 months and picked up
> > > neuropathic burning all around the edges of the treated areas
for
> > at
> > > least 6 months.
> > >
> > > To top it off my derm went on vacation after the treatment, so
I
> > had
> > > to deal with the side effects myself for about the first 6
weeks.
> > >
> > > When he returned he prescribed Protopic - which I used every
> night
> > > for several months.
> > >
> > > Over time it did heal and resolve. the next year (about 10
> months
> > > later) I then went to oregon for an series with 1064 Yag and
> IPL.
> > > That resolved any lingering issues except for a tiny spot under
> one
> > > eye that can still burn once in a while.
&gt; > >
> > > The plus side is I picked up several areas of full clearance
from
> > > that one treatment-something that IPL does not do for me -, so
I
> am
> > > going to try again, probably with lower power settings.
> > >
> > > I am hoping that with what I have learned about handling post
> > > treatment issues I can keep the upside without so much downside!
> > >
> > > I will definately be doing a lot of anti inflamitory stuff for
> the
> > > next several weeks post treatment.
> > >
> > > You might look into both oral and topical antiinflamatories
while
> > you
> > > are healing (I am going to have a tube of Canduela gel in the
> > fridge
> > > for when I get home from this one!)
&gt; > >
> > >
> > > I hope you have the same course of healing I did and the issues
> > > eventually resolve themselves.
> > >
> > > Good luck
>; > >
> > > KHM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In rosacea-support yahoogroups. com, "nurse_artist&quot;
> > > <nurse_artist > wrote:
&gt; > > >
>; > > > Andrea: That's pretty long after your treatment to still have
> > extra
&gt; > > > sensitivity and redness there. It's a tough one because such a
> > > > sensitive area might be more vulnerable when doing IPL.
> > > >
> > > > I'd say an experienced IPL doctor needs to be asked, to be
> sure.
> > > Have
>; > > > you gotten any recommendations from your area? If not, you
> could
> > ask
> > > > here in case anyone from your area has gone to someone good..
> The
> > > > Lumenis One machine is fantastic. You can find a clinic with
one
&gt; > > > through the link below, and I would interview the doctor/s to
> see
> > if
> > > > you would trust them with your skin.
> > > >
> > > > There is the Lumenis and the Lumenis One - so be sure to look
> up
> > the
> > > > right one:
>; > > >
> > > > http://www.skinandh ealth.com/ locator/usStart. html
>; > > >
> > > > I've also done well with the Photoderm machine. It's not as
> > > advanced,
> > > > but I'd choose an experienced doc with one of those over a
> green
> > doc
> > > > with the Lumenis One..
&gt; > > >
> > > > I think IPL can also cause "hyperpigmentation" , which is an
> > increase
> > > > in your skin color there. Could it be that? Or, are you sure
> it's
>; > > > capillaries?
> > > >
> > > > I think if it were me, I'd aim toward having a more
experienced
> > > doctor
&gt; > > > fix it, but only they determined that it is surficial
> capillaries
> > > and
> > > > that the treatment would be conservative and not damage the
> > > sensitive
> > > > area further..
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Artist
&gt; > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In rosacea-support yahoogroups. com, "jmegnagb"
> <andrea5590 >
> > > wrote:
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > Thank you Artist for your help. I really appreciate it. It
> has
> > > been 4
> > > > > months since that treatment that damaged me. That area is
> also
> > > ultra
> > > > > sensitive. To the gentlemen that has the same problem could
> you
> > > let me
> > > > > know if anything helps, and i will do the same. Thank you.
> > Hugs,
> > > Andrea
&gt; > > > >
>; > > >
>; > >
>; >
>;
>
>
>
>
>
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>

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Hi Goldpony,
What type of hormones exactly are you thinking of? Do you mean birth control pills
or hormone replacement for menopause? Because I know nothing about birth control
pills (other than I would never ever take them) but I do have some experience with
hormone replacement for menopause. Just need to know which one is your area of
interest !
Lee
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To: rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com<;mailto: rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com>;
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:02 PM
Subject: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

Have anyone been on hormone pills who has Rosacea?? I was wondering what kind of reacting does anyone has?? Or does it works better while on it?
I need to know so I can talk to my doctor about it.
Thanks,
Lauria

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I'm talking about HRT. Premarin is what the doctor put me on for temporary
Lauria
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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

Hi Goldpony,
What type of hormones exactly are you thinking of? Do you mean birth control pills
or hormone replacement for menopause? Because I know nothing about birth control
pills (other than I would never ever take them) but I do have some experience with
hormone replacement for menopause. Just need to know which one is your area of
interest !
Lee
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To: rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com<;mailto: rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com">rosacea-supportyahoogroups.com>;
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:02 PM
Subject: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

Have anyone been on hormone pills who has Rosacea?? I was wondering what kind of reacting does anyone has?? Or does it works better while on it?
I need to know so I can talk to my doctor about it.
Thanks,
Lauria

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Goldpony,
A couple of really good books about BHRT (bio-identical hormone therapy) and HRT
are by Dr Uzzi Reiss (an obgyn) who has been prescribing BHRT for 20+ years for his patients.
He talks about why women should use bioidentical and not synthetic. If it's not
bio-identical it's not actually even considered hormones. They are drugs. But as for
BHRT which I've been using for a while now, I believe it has calmed my face down
quite a bit. I was having so many hot flashes and just being to warm from to much
progesterone really played havoc with my face. Now I'm not taking so much
progesterone and my body has cooled down as well as my face, and the estradiol has
really nipped all the hot flashes. As for using HRT I really don't know if that would
help or hinder your Rosacea.

Good luck!
Lee
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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

I'm talking about HRT. Premarin is what the doctor put me on for temporary
Lauria
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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

Hi Goldpony,
What type of hormones exactly are you thinking of? Do you mean birth control pills
or hormone replacement for menopause? Because I know nothing about birth control
pills (other than I would never ever take them) but I do have some experience with
hormone replacement for menopause. Just need to know which one is your area of
interest !
Lee
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Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:02 PM
Subject: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

Have anyone been on hormone pills who has Rosacea?? I was wondering what kind of reacting does anyone has?? Or does it works better while on it?
I need to know so I can talk to my doctor about it.
Thanks,
Lauria

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Hi Lee..
Thank you for the information. How long have you been on estradiol? I have 2 sisters who had hysterectomy and they don't take anything but they don't have Rosacea like I do. I need to take something so I won't break out after hot flashes and night sweat. I really needed my sleep too..
Lauria

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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

Goldpony,
A couple of really good books about BHRT (bio-identical hormone therapy) and HRT
are by Dr Uzzi Reiss (an obgyn) who has been prescribing BHRT for 20+ years for his patients.
He talks about why women should use bioidentical and not synthetic. If it's not
bio-identical it's not actually even considered hormones. They are drugs. But as for
BHRT which I've been using for a while now, I believe it has calmed my face down
quite a bit. I was having so many hot flashes and just being to warm from to much
progesterone really played havoc with my face. Now I'm not taking so much
progesterone and my body has cooled down as well as my face, and the estradiol has
really nipped all the hot flashes. As for using HRT I really don't know if that would
help or hinder your Rosacea.

Good luck!
Lee

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Hi Lauria,
I have been on Estradiol for about 1 year now. The progesterone for even longer, maybe 2 years. At first I was only going to use progesterone because I was afraid of estrogen and cancer etc. But after doing some research and reading some books, I decided I definitely needed estrogen and that it is nothing to fear. What you should fear is using Synthetic hormones. They tend to make me wary. So my Estradiol is compounded especially for me by a compounding pharmacy. There are lots of these places around but not as many as say your CVS or Walgreens etc. The tricky part is finding a doctor who understands BHRT not HRT and will help you with dosing. The majority of docs still prescribe Premarin, Premarin, Premphase, Prempro or Estratab instead of Bio-identical hormones. The book I was telling you about has a small section mentioned how to switch from synthetics to natural, the doses etc. I can quote from the book for you if you are interested. As soon I started taking Bio-ident estrogen all my hot flashes stopped, as well as my night sweats. When I adjusted my progesterone, I seldom felt overheated and don't flush as often. Oh one more thing, about the sleep. Before BHRT I absolutely COULD NOT SLEEP. I have always be a sleep lover !!! Suddenly no matter how tired I was I could not sleep worth a bleep!!! Took forever to fall asleep. Then I would have odd odd dreams, and was always waking up. I was exhausted. But the BHRT fixed all of that. Also I had vaginal dryness and could not go the whole night without getting up to potty. I also use vaginal estrogen and that has fixed me right up too. I sometimes now just get up once and then fall right back to sleep ! It's great.

Sorry this got to be so long. But I am really passionate about BHRT and wish all women would take it. Not just for hot flashes and night sweats either. But low hormones affect EVERY area of your body. And lots of women even in their 30's & 40's could benefit from some hormonal help. I had so many symptoms every morning it was like "what's the symptoms of the day" when I got up.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you want more info or just to chat about this, because it is difficult.

Cheers !
Lee

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

Hi Lee..
Thank you for the information. How long have you been on estradiol? I have 2 sisters who had hysterectomy and they don't take anything but they don't have Rosacea like I do. I need to take something so I won't break out after hot flashes and night sweat. I really needed my sleep too..
Lauria

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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [rosacea] hormone pills and Rosacea

Goldpony,
A couple of really good books about BHRT (bio-identical hormone therapy) and HRT
are by Dr Uzzi Reiss (an obgyn) who has been prescribing BHRT for 20+ years for his patients.
He talks about why women should use bioidentical and not synthetic. If it's not
bio-identical it's not actually even considered hormones. They are drugs. But as for
BHRT which I've been using for a while now, I believe it has calmed my face down
quite a bit. I was having so many hot flashes and just being to warm from to much
progesterone really played havoc with my face. Now I'm not taking so much
progesterone and my body has cooled down as well as my face, and the estradiol has
really nipped all the hot flashes. As for using HRT I really don't know if that would
help or hinder your Rosacea.

Good luck!
Lee

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