Roundup @ wikipedia

Hi,

I noticed there doesn't seem to be a wikipedia article for
Roundup yet 
(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_Up_%28disambiguatio
n%29). I 
consider this to be important; there are pages for Trac in
both english 
and german wikipedia, and I found a Comparison of issue
tracking systems 
page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issu
e_tracking_systems) 
not mentioning Roundup at all.

I just created an article in the german wikipedia (see 
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_%28Bugtracker%29),
accompanied with 
a TAL article about TAL 
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_Attribute_Language
). I might do 
likewise for the english site... but of course I'd like to
invite the 
Roundup community to help.

BTW, I feel some information is needed about the name. My
first 
association was the well-known herbicide, but herbicides are
supposed to 
kill herbs rather than bugs. Having a look in the online
dictionary I 
found that "roundup" has e.g. the meaning of
"razzia". Is there some 
"official" etymology?

And, Richard: Would you mind to be mentioned in the
articles?

Of course, if you give me some info which must not appear in
wikipedia 
public (for whatever legal reason), please tell me! 

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Tobias Herp wrote:
> BTW, I feel some information is needed about the name.
My first 
> association was the well-known herbicide, but
herbicides are supposed to 
> kill herbs rather than bugs. Having a look in the
online dictionary I 
> found that "roundup" has e.g. the meaning of
"razzia". Is there some 
> "official" etymology?

My guess as to the origin of the name here is "to round
up the issues" as in
"rounding up the cattle" as suggested by the
favicon that is displayed in my
firefox browser when visiting:

  http://roun
dup.sourceforge.net/index.html

Apropos the wikipedia article, I think that is a good idea;
I happened to find
it because it was tagged as a bug tracker in Debian's
archive and so I gave it
a try. I would not have know about it otherwise let alone
have sufficient cause
to track it down and try it out.

Bruce.



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Bruce Tulloch wrote:
> Tobias Herp wrote:
>> BTW, I feel some information is needed about the
name. My first 
>> association was the well-known herbicide, but
herbicides are supposed to 
>> kill herbs rather than bugs. Having a look in the
online dictionary I 
>> found that "roundup" has e.g. the meaning
of "razzia". Is there some 
>> "official" etymology?
> 
> My guess as to the origin of the name here is "to
round up the issues" as in
> "rounding up the cattle" as suggested by the
favicon that is displayed in my
> firefox browser when visiting:
> 
>   http://roun
dup.sourceforge.net/index.html

Gosh -- Seamonkey doesn't display this; I just saw it for
the first 
time, explicitly requesting http://
roundup.sourceforge.net/favicon.ico...

> Apropos the wikipedia article, I think that is a good
idea

Thanks 

There is a TAL article now at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_Attribute_Languag
e; maybe I'll add 
a translation of my german Roundup article.

I meanwhile found Roundup mentioned on 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issu
e_tracking_systems (in 
the lower table, listing "Bug-tracking systems"),
but articles 
explicitly targeting Roundup would be much more helpful.

BTW, regarding this list:

* What does the community think about adding TAL to the
"Implementation
   language" column? To me, the usage of TAL is A Cool
Thing (tm)...
* Roundup features "Customizable workflow" and
"Unicode support",
   doesn't it?

-- 
Tobias

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Tobias Herp wrote:
> There is a TAL article now at 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_Attribute_Languag
e; maybe I'll add 
> a translation of my german Roundup article.

I did it; there is a roundup article now at
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_%28issue_tracker%29


I invite the Roundup community to improve it 

Unfortunately there are already lots of Richard Jones'
recorded there; I 
doubt many of them helped evolving Roundup...

-- 
Tobias

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On Mon, April 9, 2007 7:19 pm, Tobias Herp wrote:

> Tobias Herp wrote:

>> There is a TAL article now at
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_Attribute_Languag
e;
>> maybe I'll add a translation of my german Roundup
article.
>
> I did it; there is a roundup article now at
>     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_%28issue_tracker%29


thank you.


> Unfortunately there are already lots of Richard Jones'
> recorded there; I doubt many of them helped evolving
> Roundup...

can we make the reference to Richard more unique by
including
his middle initial (assuming he has a middle name)?



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On 10/04/2007, at 1:25 PM, David M. Besonen wrote:
> On Mon, April 9, 2007 7:19 pm, Tobias Herp wrote:
>>> There is a TAL article now at
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_Attribute_Languag
e;
>>> maybe I'll add a translation of my german
Roundup article.
>>
>> I did it; there is a roundup article now at
>>     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_%28issue_tracker%29

>
> thank you.

Indeed, thanks. I've already made a minor edit to add some
detail 


>> Unfortunately there are already lots of Richard
Jones'
>> recorded there; I doubt many of them helped
evolving
>> Roundup...
>
> can we make the reference to Richard more unique by
including
> his middle initial (assuming he has a middle name)?

I'm really not sure I warrant a wikipedia article of my
own...


     Richard


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Richard Jones wrote:
> On 10/04/2007, at 1:25 PM, David M. Besonen wrote:
>> On Mon, April 9, 2007 7:19 pm, Tobias Herp wrote:
>>>     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_%28issue_tracker%29

>> thank you.
> 
> Indeed, thanks. I've already made a minor edit to add
some detail 

Great -- now I'm confident of not having written a load of
rubbish.

>>> Unfortunately there are already lots of Richard
Jones'
>>> recorded there; I doubt many of them helped
evolving
>>> Roundup...
>> can we make the reference to Richard more unique by
including
>> his middle initial (assuming he has a middle
name)?
> 
> I'm really not sure I warrant a wikipedia article of my
own...

Well, you have coined Roundup for quite some time now.

It's somewhat difficult. I think it is necessary to mention
you in the 
Roundup article. When there is a link (like now), visitors
will expect 
to learn which Richard Jones is meant; I there is no link,
they'll try 
the "Richard Jones" page anyway. Maybe it would be
appropriate to add an 
unlinked list item to the disambiguation page; but the
wikipedia folks 
might not like this solution.

And, of course, if you feel uncomfortable about an article,
this must be 
respected.

-- 
Tobias

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On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Tobias Herp wrote:
> It's somewhat difficult. I think it is necessary to
mention you in the
> Roundup article. When there is a link (like now),
visitors will expect
> to learn which Richard Jones is meant; I there is no
link, they'll try
> the "Richard Jones" page anyway. Maybe it
would be appropriate to add an
> unlinked list item to the disambiguation page; but the
wikipedia folks
> might not like this solution.

I don't know the wikipedia rules - would it be acceptable to
link to 
<http://mechani
calcat.net/richard/>?

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