Signal vs Noise?

I think it's time to say that the continuous integration,
break/fixed
notices should be moved to a new list.

It's seriously diluting the important conversations real
humans are
having. As much as I thoroughly enjoy seeing the reports and
status
updates. It means little to nothing to me on a
"live" perspective,
more on a.. if I use this rev of edge, is it stable ( as far
as all
the oracle, sqlserver, cruisecontrol, etc tests reports are
concerned).

Nathaniel.

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No doubt then, seems you are already making procedures to
silence it.

I could defiately create the filter as well, but I am sure I
am not
the only one noticing that the emails on core would have
more impact
if we didn't have to sift through the commit checks.
Especially as
more systems are setup in place to ensure that quality is
consistently
high.

Nathaniel.

On 3/29/07, Mislav Marohniæ <mislav.marohnicgmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/29/07, Nathaniel Brown <nshbinimit.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think it's time to say that the continuous
integration, break/fixed
> > notices should be moved to a new list.
>
> I had this filter in GMail for a long time now:
>
>    Matches: to:rubyonrails subject:("AR/Oracle
Unit Test" OR SQLServer OR
> "Rails-MySQL Build")
>    Do this: Skip Inbox, Delete it
>
> I'm updating it as new continuous integration setups
are made.
>
>  >
>


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On 29/03/07, Alexey Verkhovsky <alexey.verkhovskygmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/29/07, Nathaniel Brown <nshbinimit.com> wrote:
> > > > I think it's time to say that the
continuous integration, break/fixed
> > > > notices should be moved to a new list.
> >
>
> Just one question: what name that new list should have?
Should it be called
> rails-core-core or rails-notices-that-nobody-ever-sees?

>
> Point being, Rails-core is the Rails project team mail
list, isn't it? For
> continuous integration to have real value, failures in
CI should be highly
> visible, and get fixed quickly. Otherwise, all you have
is a perpetually
> broken build that nobody cares about. Which is not
worth the hassle to have.

+1.  I'd like the notices to remain in rails-core

Tom

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On Mar 29, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Tom Ward wrote:

>
> +1.  I'd like the notices to remain in rails-core
>
> Tom

In fact I've reconcidered and I also give a +1 now
CI is awareness and IMO the fact that errors clog the main
list  
prompts to fix them faster
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> I think it's time to say that the continuous
integration, break/fixed
> notices should be moved to a new list.

Moving them to another list will simply create an error
message ghetto
which no one checks.  I'm happy with them here at present,
and their
volume is tiny relative to the discussion threads.

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On 29.3.2007, at 19.34, Julian Tarkhanov wrote:
> On Mar 29, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Tom Ward wrote:
>> +1.  I'd like the notices to remain in rails-core
>>
>> Tom
>
> In fact I've reconcidered and I also give a +1 now
> CI is awareness and IMO the fact that errors clog the
main list
> prompts to fix them faster

+1 from here as well.

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I'd rather they be seen.

On 3/29/07, Jarkko Laine <jarkkojlaine.net> wrote:
> On 29.3.2007, at 19.34, Julian Tarkhanov wrote:
> > On Mar 29, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Tom Ward wrote:
> >> +1.  I'd like the notices to remain in
rails-core
> >>
> >> Tom
> >
> > In fact I've reconcidered and I also give a +1
now
> > CI is awareness and IMO the fact that errors clog
the main list
> > prompts to fix them faster
>
> +1 from here as well.
>
> --
> Jarkko Laine
> http://jlaine.net
> http://dotherightthing.com

> http://www.railsecommer
ce.com
> http://odesign.fi
>
>
>
>


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To think that they would be ignored if they are as important
as
everyone is making them out to be seems a shame.

It's called organization. Putting a central resource where
you can
subscribe to - and yes, I did say you can actually subscribe
to the
list - won't stop people from reading them.

Anyways, was a suggestion to clean things up, but hey. I
suppose
people like messy sometimes too  I added
the filter that was
originally recommended, so my itch is scratched for the time
being.
Although I still see value in having a separate list, but
hey - better
ideas have been shot down before!

Nathaniel.

On 3/29/07, Kevin Clark <kevin.clarkgmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd rather they be seen.
>
> On 3/29/07, Jarkko Laine <jarkkojlaine.net> wrote:
> > On 29.3.2007, at 19.34, Julian Tarkhanov wrote:
> > > On Mar 29, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Tom Ward wrote:
> > >> +1.  I'd like the notices to remain in
rails-core
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >
> > > In fact I've reconcidered and I also give a
+1 now
> > > CI is awareness and IMO the fact that errors
clog the main list
> > > prompts to fix them faster
> >
> > +1 from here as well.
> >
> > --
> > Jarkko Laine
> > http://jlaine.net
> > http://dotherightthing.com

> > http://www.railsecommer
ce.com
> > http://odesign.fi
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Kevin Clark
> http://glu.ttono.us
>
> >
>


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