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Adding profiling support to SC's tree
user name
2008-04-13 14:53:42
Hi guys,
I9;ve prepared a patch to add the profiling support for Netbeans and Eclipse (TPTP). Some files need to be added in ide/ folder.
Is it possible?

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- Deep Throat (The X-Files)
Eclipse and NetBeans classpath maintenance issues
user name
2008-04-20 06:24:20
Over the years, I've periodically tried to keep the NetBeans
project.xml 
file up-to-date. I watch out for changes to the Ant
build.xml and the 
Eclipse .classpath files in the source tree, but am not
always observant 
enough.

At the moment, I am trying to resolve several issues with
the current 
SVN trunk and my own NetBeans IDE. Although I am sure I will
sort them 
out and eventually commit my changes, my instincts tell me
this is an 
ongoing problem that needs to be addressed intelligently.

The real problem (it seems to me) is that we would like to
maintain 
THREE different files that all embody the same metadata
relating to the 
compile, test and debug classpaths.

In the ideal world, our two IDE's would refer to the Ant
build.xml, 
because it is the authoritative base for this classpath
information. 
Currently, this is not possible.

In a nearly-ideal world, our two IDE's would share the same
metadata in 
a common format. This isn't likely to happen in my
lifetime!

We could set the classpaths up as separate properties
files... Ant could 
then include the properties at run-time, although it would
have the 
disadvantage of making the build more complex and fragile. I
do not 
think this is a great idea, because I don't (at this stage)
know how to 
make Eclipse and NetBeans load their IDE project classpaths
from 
external properties files.


If everyone agrees with my comments so far, that only leaves
us with 
three documentation-and-procedure solutions:-

1. Create a FOURTH file that lists every element in the
three classpaths 
(compile, test and debug). The list elements should be clear
and 
individually documented, e.g. say WHY we need both
lib/bundle/log4j.jar 
and lib/installer-exclude/log4j-1.2.8.jar (I don't know
why!) Changes 
would be made to the new file and then propagated to the
existing three 
files as appropriate.

With this approach, we would have documentation for
what-and-why we put 
into build.xml. It would make it MUCH simpler for
individuals to monitor 
and update the separate Eclipse and NetBeans project files.
You could 
say the scheme would become less fragile because, at the
moment, it is 
difficult to decide whether to trust build.xml (the NetBeans
debugger 
uses it but Eclipse does not), or to trust .classpath (used
by Eclipse, 
but not Ant).

2. Possibly restructure the classpath logic in build.xml,
AND insist on 
a LOT more in-line documentation about each element.

This has the advantage of appointing build.xml as the single

authoritative origin of all classpath metadata. Eclipse and
NetBeans 
classpath files need only be synchronised (unambiguously)
with 
build.xml. The disadvantage is that build.xml will become
even bigger.

3. Create some sort of Ant automation process that would
propagate the 
classpaths from build.xml into the two IDE project files.

This option sounds wonderful in theory, but I do not think
it is realistic!


My vote is for option 2 because:-

a) we would not create yet another classpath file in the
source tree.
b) we would introduce a definite hierarchy of trust between
the existing 
three files.
c) we would introduce a new standard - no-one should change
the build 
classpath without documenting INLINE why that change is
needed. (I 
realise you can trawl through the SVN change log, but that
is another 
seldom-trustworthy source of metadata).
d) developer effort would be reduced and delegated. You
should always 
change build.xml first and, if you don't understand the IDE
files, leave 
them for someone else to update. The downstream IDE changes
should then 
become trivial for someone who understands the way these
files are used.

What do you all think?

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