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Today's Topics:

   1. please include me in discussion list (Anand Upadye)
   2. Re: A question on SIP Registration Interval (Andrew
Yu)
   3. Re: A question on SIP Registration Interval (Andrew
Yu)
   4. audio packet loss (toothhe)
   5. Query about IP Security (Yogesh Agrawal)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:21:46 +0530
From: "Anand Upadye" <anand.upadyegmail.com>
Subject: [SIPForum-discussion] please include me in
discussion list
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HI,
I am Anand Upadye working at Kodiak Networks, I am very much
interested in
these discussions pleae include me.

thanks
Anand.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:22:57 +0800
From: Andrew Yu <andrewasiatel.com.sg>
Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] A question on SIP
Registration
	Interval
To: Onur Cinar <onur.cinargmail.com>,	vijay
sukrishnaan nair
	<vijay_sukrishnaannairyahoo.com>
Cc: discussionsipforum.org
Message-ID: <4670DEC1.90604asiatel.com.sg>
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Hi Vijay & Onur,

My appreciation for your kind response.

Dear Members,

Actually, I'm facing a problem where the sbc reduces the
requested 
expiration interval by 1sec until the UA expiration interval
reaches 1 
and deregister itself  at expiration interval at 0. The
problem surfaced 
after a software upgrade was done on the sbc, the vendor
insist that 
there was nothing wrong and the UA should re-register itself
based on 
the configured re-register expiration interval of the UA. Am
I 
misunderstanding something? The weirdest thing is that this
does not 
affect linksys devices like PAP2. They just re-register
itself at its 
own pre-configured value.

My appreciation if any nextone & cisco/linksys trained
engineers could 
response to my questions. The sbc is from nextone. Thanks
alot!

User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: 5698 (5698), Dst Port:
5060 (5060)
Session Initiation Protocol
    Request-Line: REGISTER sip:sip.abc.com SIP/2.0
        Method: REGISTER
        [Resent Packet: False]
    Message Header
        Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 
10.0.0.130:5698;branch=z9hG4bK0a0000825698-1470;rport
        From: sip:12345678sip.abc.com;tag=0A0000821642-805261B80
        To: sip:12345678sip.abc.com
        Call-ID: 1805261b82954a000082
        CSeq: 72 REGISTER
        User-Agent: SIP-6328-2Re-v8.0.3-12345678/v2.0
Enabled
        Contact: "12345678"<sip:1234567810.0.0.130:5698>
        Expires: 2
        Max-Forwards: 70
        Content-Length: 0

User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: 5060 (5060), Dst Port:
5698 (5698)
Session Initiation Protocol
    Status-Line: SIP/2.0 200 OK
        Status-Code: 200
        [Resent Packet: False]
    Message Header
        Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 
10.0.0.130:5698;received=210.24.99.168;branch=z9hG4bK0a00008
25698-1470;rport
        From: <sip:12345678sip.abc.com>;tag=0A0000821642-805261B80
        To: <sip:12345678sip.abc.com>
        Call-ID: 1805261b82954a000082
        CSeq: 72 REGISTER
        Expires: 1
        Contact: "12345678" <sip:6826769110.0.0.130:5698>
        Content-Length: 0

-- 
Cheers,

Asiatel Singapore Pte Ltd
Andrew Yu

19 Jalan Kilang Barat
#06-01, Acetech Centre
Singapore 159361

Tel: +65 6271 8233
Fax: +65 6274 4266


vijay sukrishnaan nair wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> If you get expire time as 30 seconds from registrar it
means that 
> after 30 seconds you will loose registration. So you
must send 
> reregister request within 30 seconds. Yes the UA should
reset the 
> expire time depend upon the response. Please discard
this reply if i 
> am wrong.
>  


Onur Cinar wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Yes, that is the case, your UA should obey the
registrar's decision. 
> Based on your example, the registrar will keep your
registration for 
> 30 seconds, and then it will clean it from its
database. So for 
> example, if your UA receives an INVITE at 45 seconds
then the calling 
> party will get a 404 although your UA is still running.
So you should 
> register in every 30 seconds instead of 60.
>
> Based on my experience, in your UA, make sure to
register a little 
> earlier than 30 seconds. I'm mostly registering 5-10
seconds earlier 
> to make sure that my registration won't expire due to
some unexpected 
> application side/network delays.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -onur
>
> --
> Visit Nuvoiz.com <http://Nuvoiz.com> for
our SoftPhone Soltutions
> A. Onur Cinar - Senior Software Engineer
> T: 1.408.454.6138 F: 1.408.754.6230
> 1973 Landings Drive, Mountain View, CA 94043 USA
>
> On 6/13/07, *Andrew Yu* <andrewasiatel.com.sg 
> <mailto:andrewasiatel.com.sg>> wrote:
>
>     Dear members,
>
>     I'll like to know exactly how SIP registration
interval is implemented
>     by the RFC.
>
>     When UA send register request with expires 60 and
registrar return 200
>     OK but with expires 30, does this mean the next
re-register sent
>     by the
>     UA will be sent at expiration interval of 30? What
will happen if I've
>     configured the endpoint to re-register every 60s,
does this mean that
>     the configured setting will be over-ride by the
registrar? Thank you.
>
>     --
>     Cheers,
>
>     Asiatel Singapore Pte Ltd
>     Andrew Yu
>
>     19 Jalan Kilang Barat
>     #06-01, Acetech Centre
>     Singapore 159361
>
>     Tel: +65 6271 8233
>     Fax: +65 6274 4266
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:04:32 +0800
From: Andrew Yu <andrewasiatel.com.sg>
Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] A question on SIP
Registration
	Interval
To: kaushikncoretech.com
Cc: discussionsipforum.org
Message-ID: <467112B0.10709asiatel.com.sg>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Kaushik,

You're correct to point this out, the UA is carrying the new
expiration 
interval set by the registrar everytime it is
re-registering. Is the UA 
right to use the value dictated by the registrar or it
should registered 
with same "configured" expiration value during
every re-registering? Thanks.

-- 
Cheers,

Asiatel Singapore Pte Ltd
Andrew Yu

19 Jalan Kilang Barat
#06-01, Acetech Centre
Singapore 159361

Tel: +65 6271 8233
Fax: +65 6274 4266


kaushikncoretech.com wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I think the problem is related to REGISTER carrying
> new expires value everytime it is Re-Registering.
>
> If you can make device / client register with same
"configured"
> expires value during every Re-Registering then it will
solve
> your problem.
>
> Regards,
> Kaushik
>
> Quoting Andrew Yu <andrewasiatel.com.sg>:
>
>   
>> Hi Vijay & Onur,
>>
>> My appreciation for your kind response.
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Actually, I'm facing a problem where the sbc
reduces the requested
>> expiration interval by 1sec until the UA expiration
interval reaches 1
>> and deregister itself  at expiration interval at 0.
The problem surfaced
>> after a software upgrade was done on the sbc, the
vendor insist that
>> there was nothing wrong and the UA should
re-register itself based on
>> the configured re-register expiration interval of
the UA. Am I
>> misunderstanding something? The weirdest thing is
that this does not
>> affect linksys devices like PAP2. They just
re-register itself at its
>> own pre-configured value.
>>
>> My appreciation if any nextone & cisco/linksys
trained engineers could
>> response to my questions. The sbc is from nextone.
Thanks alot!
>>
>> User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: 5698 (5698), Dst
Port: 5060 (5060)
>> Session Initiation Protocol
>>     Request-Line: REGISTER sip:sip.abc.com SIP/2.0
>>         Method: REGISTER
>>         [Resent Packet: False]
>>     Message Header
>>         Via: SIP/2.0/UDP
>>
10.0.0.130:5698;branch=z9hG4bK0a0000825698-1470;rport
>>         From: sip:12345678sip.abc.com;tag=0A0000821642-805261B80
>>         To: sip:12345678sip.abc.com
>>         Call-ID: 1805261b82954a000082
>>         CSeq: 72 REGISTER
>>         User-Agent:
SIP-6328-2Re-v8.0.3-12345678/v2.0 Enabled
>>         Contact:
"12345678"<sip:1234567810.0.0.130:5698>
>>         Expires: 2
>>         Max-Forwards: 70
>>         Content-Length: 0
>>
>> User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: 5060 (5060), Dst
Port: 5698 (5698)
>> Session Initiation Protocol
>>     Status-Line: SIP/2.0 200 OK
>>         Status-Code: 200
>>         [Resent Packet: False]
>>     Message Header
>>         Via: SIP/2.0/UDP
>>
10.0.0.130:5698;received=210.24.99.168;branch=z9hG4bK0a00008
25698-1470;rport
>>         From: <sip:12345678sip.abc.com>;tag=0A0000821642-805261B80
>>         To: <sip:12345678sip.abc.com>
>>         Call-ID: 1805261b82954a000082
>>         CSeq: 72 REGISTER
>>         Expires: 1
>>         Contact: "12345678"
<sip:6826769110.0.0.130:5698>
>>         Content-Length: 0
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Asiatel Singapore Pte Ltd
>> Andrew Yu
>>
>> 19 Jalan Kilang Barat
>> #06-01, Acetech Centre
>> Singapore 159361
>>
>> Tel: +65 6271 8233
>> Fax: +65 6274 4266
>>
>>
>> vijay sukrishnaan nair wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you get expire time as 30 seconds from
registrar it means that
>>> after 30 seconds you will loose registration.
So you must send
>>> reregister request within 30 seconds. Yes the
UA should reset the
>>> expire time depend upon the response. Please
discard this reply if i
>>> am wrong.
>>>
>>>       
>> Onur Cinar wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> Yes, that is the case, your UA should obey the
registrar's decision.
>>> Based on your example, the registrar will keep
your registration for
>>> 30 seconds, and then it will clean it from its
database. So for
>>> example, if your UA receives an INVITE at 45
seconds then the calling
>>> party will get a 404 although your UA is still
running. So you should
>>> register in every 30 seconds instead of 60.
>>>
>>> Based on my experience, in your UA, make sure
to register a little
>>> earlier than 30 seconds. I'm mostly registering
5-10 seconds earlier
>>> to make sure that my registration won't expire
due to some unexpected
>>> application side/network delays.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> -onur
>>>
>>> --
>>> Visit Nuvoiz.com <http://Nuvoiz.com> for
our SoftPhone Soltutions
>>> A. Onur Cinar - Senior Software Engineer
>>> T: 1.408.454.6138 F: 1.408.754.6230
>>> 1973 Landings Drive, Mountain View, CA 94043
USA
>>>
>>> On 6/13/07, *Andrew Yu* <andrewasiatel.com.sg
>>> <mailto:andrewasiatel.com.sg>>
wrote:
>>>
>>>     Dear members,
>>>
>>>     I'll like to know exactly how SIP
registration interval is implemented
>>>     by the RFC.
>>>
>>>     When UA send register request with expires
60 and registrar return 200
>>>     OK but with expires 30, does this mean the
next re-register sent
>>>     by the
>>>     UA will be sent at expiration interval of
30? What will happen if I've
>>>     configured the endpoint to re-register
every 60s, does this mean that
>>>     the configured setting will be over-ride by
the registrar? Thank you.
>>>
>>>     --
>>>     Cheers,
>>>
>>>     Asiatel Singapore Pte Ltd
>>>     Andrew Yu
>>>
>>>     19 Jalan Kilang Barat
>>>     #06-01, Acetech Centre
>>>     Singapore 159361
>>>
>>>     Tel: +65 6271 8233
>>>     Fax: +65 6274 4266
>>>
>>>
>>>    
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:42:29 +0800 (CST)
From: toothhe <toothhe163.com>
Subject: [SIPForum-discussion] audio packet loss
To: discussionsipforum.org
Message-ID:
	<3405835.1534381181817749408.JavaMail.coremailbj163app62.163.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gbk"

Hi dear all,I'm now doing some workload tests of Asterisk by
the SIPp, and got many lp (lost package) in the Master.csv
log file on Asterisk side.
But when I test with X-Lite, there's no lost package.
I'm puzzled by this result.What does lp in Master.csv file
means? Is there any weakness in SIPp about lossing package,
such as audio package?
Thanks a lot~!
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:12:55 +0530
From: "Yogesh Agrawal" <ayogeshTechMahindra.com>
Subject: [SIPForum-discussion] Query about IP Security
To: <discussionsipforum.org>
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Hi,

    What is the significance of "spi" directive 
in the Security
headers?

 

e.g. Security-Client: digest, IPsec-3gpp
;alg=hmac-sha-l-96;spi-c=23456789
;spi-s=12345678;port-c=2468
;port-s=1357

 

 

RFC 3329 says -   It defines the SPI number used for inbound
messages
(10DIGIT; 0 to 4294967295)
 

John Wiley says - the SPI used for the IPsec SA that relates
to the
protected client port (spi-c) as 

                            well as the SPI used for the
IPsec SA that
relates to the protected server port

                            (spi - s).

 

Could you please elaborate on its significance  ?

 

 

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