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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Purpose of SIP Forum mailing lists? (Was Re: flow
of RTP
in SIPP) (Martin Cadirola)
2. Re: SIP parameters (Giulio)
3. Reliable Provisionable Response to the Re-Invite.
(alexzhanggdnt.com.cn)
4. FAX in bypass mode using SIP (Anurag Singh)
5. Re: Reliable Provisionable Response to the Re-Invite.
(Halit Sakca)
6. Re: Reliable Provisionable Response to the Re-Invite.
(Robert Sparks)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:08:32 -0500
From: Martin Cadirola <martinecotronics.com>
Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] Purpose of SIP Forum
mailing lists?
(Was Re: flow of RTP in SIPP)
To: Eric Burger <eburgerbea.com>
Cc: discussionsipforum.org
Message-ID: <477C5FC0.2070808ecotronics.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi All,
My suggestion is to create a Google Group because it allows
for relevant
search results and archiving, all for free and easy to setup
(5 mins).
In my experience with other development work, most people
post questions
that have been answered before.
Happy New Year!
Martin
--
Martin Cadirola, President/VP Business Development
Ecotronics Ventures LLC/Kapanga Softphone
Tel: 301-591-1706
Site: http://www.kapanga.net
Blog: http://www.kapanga.net
/ip/blog
Eric Burger wrote:
> This is an excellent question and great kick-off for a
discussion. That, of
> course, is a great use of the discussion list.
>
> Dan is correct - we do not have AI software or an army
of moderators to
> classify messages. I know I personally classify based
on Subject, which is
> why I missed the original post. Thanks to Dan for
changing the subject.
>
> We have been discussing for over a year what we should
do with this list.
> Very little of the traffic is directly SIP related.
For a while, I thought
> we should rename the list the "Asterisk Newbies
List." Others proposed
> naming the list the "People who do not have the
ability to RTFM List." That
> may have been made worse by the number of "Please
Unsubscribe Me From This
> List" messages we received, even though EVERY
message sent by the list
> includes instructions for how to remove yourself from
the list.
>
> Some thoughts include:
> 1. Leave the list as is. Deep questions get addressed
on the IETF list.
> Implementers' questions get addressed on the Columbia
University list.
> Having this list as the "New Newbie" list
keeps irrelevant traffic off of
> those lists, which is a definite service to the SIP
community.
>
> 2. If we leave the list as is, how does the SIP Forum
communicate to its
> Participant Members?
>
> Right now, we have close to 3,000 Participant Members.
The signal/noise
> ratio on the discussion list is about 1:150 *after*
spam removal.
>
> 3. Should we have something like
"sipforum-announce", which would only have
> postings from SIP Forum management?
>
> 4. Should we have something like a moderated discussion
list, where the
> moderators take on the responsibility for directing
newbies to the right
> list of FAQ?
>
> 5. Other suggestions?
>
>
> On 12/24/07 10:14 AM, "Dan York"
<dyorkvoxeo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Shuky,
>>
>> You ask an excellent question and one that, in my
opinion, can probably only
>> be addressed by Eric Burger (SIP Forum Chair) or
Marc Robins (SIP Forum
>> Executive Director). The SIP Forum operates three
mailing lists:
>>
>> http://w
ww.sipforum.org/content/view/41/165/
>>
>> and this one, "discussionsipforum.com", is defined on that page as:
"a
>> general-purpose mailing list for questions about
SIP".
>>
>> With that definition, pretty much anything can be
sent out here. I think the
>> question you raise really is: what *should* be
sent out on this list? Should
>> this mailing list be broken out into separate lists
for separate topic areas?
>> (Given the software currently used by the SIP
Forum, I don't see any other way
>> to separate out the content in the manner you
mention.)
>>
>> Given that here in North America many people have
taken time off between now
>> and New Year's Day, I don't expect you'll see a
whole lot of discussion on
>> this topic until the new year... but I agree it is
a good question.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dan
>>
>> P.S. Regarding discussion of RFCs and
Internet-Drafts, I would suggest that
>> some of that (particularly the "new
features") is also being discussed in the
>> IETF mailing lists at: http://www.ietf.org
/maillist.html Certainly,
>> though, there is a need for a venue for discussion
of *implementation* of
>> RFCs, which is a valuable service that the SIP
Forum lists can provide.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2007, at 3:11 AM, Shuky Persky wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> does SIP-Forum classify members emails by
subject ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> for example:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (1) a question like the one below may
be classified as
>>> assistance-class
>>>
>>> (2) RFCs discussion class
>>>
>>> (3) SIP new features discussion class
(not yet RFC'ed)
>>>
>>> (4) other classes ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so every member can select what (s)he likes
rather than being flood by emails
>>> like th eone below
>>>
>>> which (w/ all the respect) may not be of
interest for part/many/most of the
>>> members
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> again - w/ all the respect to the one that
asked the question. pls do not be
>>> offended.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> tnx, shuky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: discussion-bouncessipforum.org
>>>> [mailto:discussion-bouncessipforum.org]On Behalf Of mwilliam prusty
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 9:17 AM
>>>> To: discussionsipforum.org
>>>> Subject: [SIPForum-discussion] flow of
RTP in SIPP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HI
>>>>
>>>> I am able to make a basic SIP call
between 2 pc using sipp . How to
>>>> flow RTP in between them ???plz help me .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> william
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://adworks.rediff.com/cgi-bin/AdW
orks/click.cgi/www.rediff.com/signatur
>>>> e-home.htm/1050715198Middle5/1960669_1953607/1960144/1?PARTNER=3&OAS_Q
UERY=
>>>> null target=new >
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Dan York, CISSP, Director of Emerging Communication
Technology
>> Office of the CTO Voxeo Corporation
dyorkvoxeo.com
>> Phone: +1-407-455-5859 Skype: danyork http://www.voxeo.com
>> Blogs: http://blogs.voxeo.com http://www.disrupt
ivetelephony.com
>>
>> Bring your web applications to the phone.
>> Find out how at http://evolution.voxeo.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:41:12 +0100
From: "Giulio" <shuttle78libero.it>
Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] SIP parameters
To: "ebilgen" <ebilgennetas.com.tr>
Cc: discussion <discussionsipforum.org>
Message-ID: <JU25CO$159185EF43412458A7A0686A78F572A0libero.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi,
I use java code there is a instruction
"createViaHeader" of the Java SIP lib that produce
VIA header (and branch parameter).
BR
Giulio
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>From : discussion-bouncessipforum.org
To : discussionsipforum.org
Cc :
Date : Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:36:03 +0200
Subject : [SIPForum-discussion] SIP parameters
> Hi all,
> How can my proxy or SIP phone generate a branch
parameter? (randomize? special algorithm?)
> Branch begins magic cookie "z9hG4bK". And how
continue this value?
> How many character can come after magic cookie?
> (It is meaning of what is the max and min value branch
parameter value?)
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:52:49 +0800
From: <alexzhanggdnt.com.cn>
Subject: [SIPForum-discussion] Reliable Provisionable
Response to the
Re-Invite.
To: <discussionsipforum.org>
Message-ID:
<CF3D996D37FE04409C625468194A117E4E477ERND-MX01.rnd.gdnt.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi All,
Can a reliable provisionable response be generated for the
Re-invite
message?
Thanks.
Alex Zhang
Guangdong Nortel (GDNT) R&D Center
GSM/UMTS Voice Core - MSC Design
Phone: (PSTN)+86 020 89188782 (ESN)6 554 8782
E-mail: alexzhanggdnt.com.cn <mailto:alexzhanggdnt.com.cn> YahooIM:
zcc_nuaa
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:11:25 +0530
From: "Anurag Singh" <abcanuraggmail.com>
Subject: [SIPForum-discussion] FAX in bypass mode using SIP
To: discussionsipforum.org
Message-ID:
<6fe57b830801030041m5599a970vf5b31ae43c68ee95mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
HI Everybody,
Can Anybody give inputs .....
how to do fax Transmission using Bypass mode and bypass
coder as G711 in
SIP?
Better give any standred followed, or document, to
understand complete
procedure.
--
With regards:
Anurag Singh
abcanuraggmail.com
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:07:23 +0200
From: Halit Sakca <sakcahalithotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] Reliable Provisionable
Response to
the Re-Invite.
To: <alexzhanggdnt.com.cn>, <discussionsipforum.org>
Message-ID: <BAY111-W477F5E414A4200938A4ECCC530phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1254"
Hi Alex,
Would you mind if I ask you to explain a little more your
question ?
What do you mean with "reliable provisionable
response" ? Could you please give an example?
thanks,Selamlar,Halit Sakca
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:52:49 +0800From: alexzhanggdnt.com.cnTo: discussionsipforum.orgSubject:
[SIPForum-discussion] Reliable Provisionable Response to the
Re-Invite.
Hi All,
Can a reliable provisionable response be generated for the
Re-invite message?
Thanks.
Alex ZhangGuangdong Nortel (GDNT) R&D CenterGSM/UMTS
Voice Core - MSC Design Phone: (PSTN)+86 020 89188782
(ESN)6 554 8782 E-mail: alexzhanggdnt.com.cn YahooIM:
zcc_nuaa
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:57:22 -0600
From: Robert Sparks <rjsparksnostrum.com>
Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] Reliable Provisionable
Response to
the Re-Invite.
To: Halit Sakca <sakcahalithotmail.com>
Cc: discussionsipforum.org
Message-ID: <D4016D72-7435-4B53-B767-973BC92146ECnostrum.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="macintosh"
He's talking about RFC3262 responses (the kind that get
PRACKed).
And yes, it is legal to respond to reINVITEs with reliable
provisionals.
RjS
On Jan 3, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Halit Sakca wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Would you mind if I ask you to explain a little more
your question ?
> What do you mean with "reliable provisionable
response" ? Could you
> please give an example?
>
> thanks,
>
> Selamlar,
> Halit Sakca
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:52:49 +0800
> From: alexzhanggdnt.com.cn
> To: discussionsipforum.org
> Subject: [SIPForum-discussion] Reliable Provisionable
Response to
> the Re-Invite.
>
> Hi All,
>
> Can a reliable provisionable response be generated for
the Re-
> invite message?
> Thanks.
>
> Alex Zhang
> Guangdong Nortel (GDNT) R&D Center
> GSM/UMTS Voice Core - MSC Design
> Phone: (PSTN)+86 020 89188782 (ESN)6 554 8782
> E-mail: alexzhanggdnt.com.cn Y! ahooIM: zcc_nuaa
>
>
>
> Tamam?yla yeni Windows Live Messenger ailesine kat?l
Buraya t?kla!
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