Website re-implementation

Hehe any one For Ruby on Rails 


Best Regards,
Warren Noronha.
GNU (http://www.gnu.org.in)



On 07-Apr-06, at 6:57 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote:

> On Saturday 01 April 2006 12:04 pm, Neil McGovern
wrote:
>> As mentioned after the end of the last board I'm
interested in  
>> helping
>> with the website re-implementaion. This is probably
not the best  
>> place
>> for general discussion, so, anyone who's
interested, please  
>> subscribe to
>> spi-wwwlists.spi-inc.org[0] and we can start
talking on there 
>
> I would still be willing to help with a website
overhaul. We've  
> been building
> some infrastucture here at Brainfood (which will be
released as Free
> Software) that greatly assists in building professional
looking  
> websites with
> a Wiki-level ease in editing. The system sits on top of
OFBiz which  
> provides
> fairly sophisticated business modeling capabilities.
>
> Here are some sites built on top of the system:
>
> http://checkmark.heart.org

> http://www.parago.com
> http://www.classifi
edsforless.com
> http://hello2.cellularo
ne.com
> http://www.brainfood.com
> etc.
>
> We have recently used the system to do the Sun Tech
Days sites for  
> 15 cities
> in Brasil. These sites are available at http:// 
> techdays.soujava.org.br and
> utilize the Copy On Write features of the wiki to do
rapid  
> provisioning. This
> technique provides the ability to create a template
site that other  
> sites
> "inherit" from and still provide the
ability for each sub-site to be
> selectively edited. Basically like UnionFS with a Wiki
interface.
>
> OFBiz provides sophisticated inventory management and
some nascent  
> accounting
> capabilities (that would almost certainly be sufficient
for SPI)  
> that might
> allow the automation of some treasurer reporting
capabilities. All  
> the art on
> those sites listed above is done by my Brother and
myself so we can  
> add some
> value there as well.
>
> Here's the rub... I can be a little bit of a pain to
deal with and  
> the system
> is written in JAVA! (However... Dalibor Topic, Tom
Tromey, Mark  
> Weilaard and
> some other very serious Free Java guys are helping
track down what  
> it will
> take to get OFBiz running on an all Free Java stack).
>
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> Ean Schuessler, CTO
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> 214-720-0700 x 315
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On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 15:07 -0700, Warren Noronha wrote:
> Hehe any one For Ruby on Rails 

That would not provide you with a CMS, just with a nice
framework to
build one from scratch.

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern

P.S.: Why is this still on spi-private? ;)


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On Wednesday 12 April 2006 17:07, Warren Noronha wrote:
> Hehe any one For Ruby on Rails 

Sure, why not? ... http://jruby.sourceforg
e.net/

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Philipp Kern <pkerndebian.org>
> P.S.: Why is this still on spi-private? ;)

Because spi-www-admin is MIA, so it's not a good list.

I don't think the Sun-Java-only system is a good idea, BTW.
As far as free software is concerned, it's vapourware.

I'm also not keen on mediawiki, from other projects I've
seen using it or trying to use it.

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On Thursday 13 April 2006 01:27, MJ Ray wrote:
> I don't think the Sun-Java-only system is a good idea,
BTW.
> As far as free software is concerned, it's vapourware.

1.25 million lines of vapourware.


> I'm also not keen on mediawiki, from other projects
I've
> seen using it or trying to use it.
>
> Best wishes,

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On Thursday 13 April 2006 01:27, MJ Ray wrote:
> I don't think the Sun-Java-only system is a good idea,
BTW.
> As far as free software is concerned, it's vapourware.

Oops. Sent to quickly.  Here are the CVS stats for classpath
(just classpath 
mind you, not Kaffe and GCJ themselves)...

http://o
bject-refinery.com/classpath/statcvs

Not that I want to get into a "why java sucks"
argument here. That won't 
change anyone's mind about anything. Mainly I am trying to
indicate that I am 
willing to help with the SPI site. I'm not adverse to using
Zope/Drupal since 
it will let me see what is useful in it and copy its ideas.

At the same time I do think it bears consideration that I
build websites full 
time for large organizations. Because of that, I may have
some experience 
that other people don't. It might be worth discussing some
ideas about what 
would be done (other than simple CMS), how it would be done
and why 
particular methods might prove more beneficial or expedient.

Please take a look at the web sites I sent in my earlier
post and take a 
moment to respond to the talking points that have
operational relevance to 
the organization (ie. copy on write file system, financials,
etc.) I know its 
not as fun as dismissing my suggestions out-of-hand but it
may prove more 
productive.

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Ean Schuessler <eanbrainfood.com>
> On Thursday 13 April 2006 01:27, MJ Ray wrote:
> > I don't think the Sun-Java-only system is a good
idea, BTW.
> > As far as free software is concerned, it's
vapourware.
> 
> Oops. Sent to quickly.  Here are the CVS stats for
classpath (just classpath 
> mind you, not Kaffe and GCJ themselves)...

Very nice. When the infrastructure built at Brainfood *is*
(not
"will be") released as free software and runs in
free software,
then it won't be free vapourware any more. Clear?

[...]
> At the same time I do think it bears consideration that
I build websites full 
> time for large organizations. Because of that, I may
have some experience 
> that other people don't. It might be worth discussing
some ideas about what 
> would be done (other than simple CMS), how it would be
done and why 
> particular methods might prove more beneficial or
expedient.

I agree. I think we'll find some other full-time web
developers
among our number, too.  If you have time to lead the
discussion,
I'm sure all would try to contribute usefully.

> Please take a look at the web sites I sent in my
earlier post and take a 
> moment to respond to the talking points that have
operational relevance to 
> the organization (ie. copy on write file system,
financials, etc.) I know its 
> not as fun as dismissing my suggestions out-of-hand but
it may prove more 
> productive.

I'd like to help build a web site, but I don't understand
what
"talking points that have operational relevance"
were in
http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-www/2006
-April/000725.html
Maybe because they're obfuscated by s/use/utilize/g and
similar.

Those sites are all built on software that cannot run on
free software yet and (AFAICT) not one of them is a valid,
accessible web site, or of an SPI-like organisation.
Why would it be useful to consider them in detail?

I derived no fun from dismissing your free vapourware, but I
hoped to prevent some unfun (the use of free vapourware)
from
happening and so finish net positive probably.

Best wishes,
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On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:27:05AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Because spi-www-admin is MIA, so it's not a good list.

That's wiggy and me only, apparently... I'm guilty as
charged :(
Let's see if something can be done now.

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