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Re: More Pharma Bull HRT 'might ward off Alzheimer's'
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United States
2008-03-25 11:15:15



I think the point here is that lowering of the oestragen prior to the
surgery led to a reduction in memory.........therefore normal
lowering of oestragen in the life cycle might well do the same.

Similar things happen in males with hypogonadism whether acquired or
congenital ie in cases of Klinefelters syndrome (47xxy)

--- In SSRI-Crusaders%40yahoogroups.com">SSRI-Crusadersyahoogroups.com, "Jim Moore"; <mofunnow...>
wrote:
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&gt; My thoughts exactly.
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> I have heard that the natural hormone therapies are better but that
the FDA
> is supressing the natural and less dangerous therapies. Probably to
protect
> the drug makers profits.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brenda Durant&quot; <Durant_B...>
> To: < ssri-crusaders%40yahoogroups.com">ssri-crusadersyahoogroups.com>;
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [SSRI-Crusaders] More Pharma Bull HRT 'might ward off
> Alzheimer's'
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> That's bull. The evidence of HRT damages is well documented and
there are
> plenty of victims dead and alive. This is just another attempt to
keep
> customers and gains pharma customers. We all know how the studies
are
> altered to present any profit agenda pharma has. No, you'd thin,
that they
> might mention whether of not any drug was given in the procedures
would
> cause the results that they reported.
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> To: SSRI-Crusaders%40yahoogroups.com">SSRI-Crusadersyahoogroups.com
> From: jeremybryce1953...
>; Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:04:25 +0000
> Subject: [SSRI-Crusaders] HRT 'might ward off Alzheimer's'
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> There is no cure for dementia
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> Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) may protect post-menopausal women
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> against memory loss and Alzheimer's disease.
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> A study found women's memories are affected when their bodies stop
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> producing the hormone oestrogen - as happens at the menopause.
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> However, London's Institute of Psychiatry found memory recovered
when
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> Women have a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's than men.
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> There may be a critical window of time around the menopause when
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> HRT may have a beneficial effect in protecting against Alzheimer's
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> Dr Michael Craig
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> Institute of Psychiatry
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> It is estimated that around 450,000 women in the UK have the
disease.
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> There is a theory that oestrogen may help prevent the build up of
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> damaging protein tangles in the brain which are thought to trigger
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> cell death, and Alzheimer's.
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> But when supplies of the hormone are abruptly cut at the menopause,
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> women may become more vulnerable.
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> A major US study found no evidence of a protective effect from HRT -
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> and even suggested the combined form of the treatment might increase
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> the general risk of dementia.
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> However, UK experts argue that this study focused on older women,
who
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> did not receive HRT immediately after the menopause.
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> Fibroid surgery
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> The latest research was carried out on 30 young, pre-menopausal
women
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> who were having surgery for benign womb growths called fibroids.
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> The patients were given a drug which shrinks the fibroids, but which
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> also temporarily shuts down the ovaries, producing a state similar
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> Each woman was given a memory test before, during and after
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> treatment, when their ovaries were once again producing oestrogen.
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> Average scores were similar before and after treatment, but dipped
by
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> about 10% while the women's ovaries were shut down.
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> The researchers also recorded reduced levels of activity in an area
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> of the brain called the pre-frontal cortex during treatment, which
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> Lead researcher Dr Michael Craig said evidence was growing that sex
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> He said: "There may be a critical window of time around the
menopause
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> Alzheimer's dementia.
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> However, Rebecca Wood, chief executive of the Alzheimer's Research
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> Trust, said: "This is not conclusive evidence and women are not
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> advised to start HRT specifically to protect against dementia since
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> it can have side-effects and possibly increase the risk of stroke.&quot;
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cut.
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I'd Say It's A Bad Guess
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United States
2008-03-25 23:09:11
 Either these researchers have memory problems and have
forgotten the thousands of other ways that our body is
contaminated and sickened; or, they are just looking for an
easy answer.
Just months before the public was informed about how
dangerous HRT is, I had surgery to remove a cluster of cysts
from my breast. I had been on HRT for almost a year
(treatment for Menopause) before the cysts were found. I had
pneumonia several times, I had severe head aches, gum
problems developed; all side effects of HRT. Had it not been
for a very caring surgeon, I most likely would have
developed and died from breast cancer, or stroke. On follow
up exam, the surgeon got angry when he saw that my OBGYN had
put me back on HRT. He said that he and the pathologist had
specifically given a written opinion that I should not have
HRT, as my cells were broken, invasive inductal hyperplasia.
He said, when I got cancer, it would spread like wild fire.
He called m at work the nest day and had set up an
appointment with an Onycologist, who would give his opinion.
That Dr. said, don't even eat a sweat potato. The OBGYN
still pressured me to take the crap which thickened mucous
and caused the other side effects. I have not had pneumonia
or the severe head aches since I quit HRT. My mamograms also
cleared up. As for memory, I wish I could forget much,
especially about the disgraces in care and protection. Thank
God, I had a caring and honest surgeon. There are too many
alterations to our food and our environment to ignore; when
making a diagnosis that lack of hormones is causing memory
problems. My grandmother lived to be almost 100, she had 17
children and almost 100 grandchildren. She had no memory
problems, ofcourse, she saw her first doctor when she was on
her deaths bed. She drank well water, raised her own food,
and never even saw a fast food restaurant.

To: SSRI-Crusaders@yahoogroups.com
From: jeremybryce1953btinternet.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:15:15 +0000
Subject: [SSRI-Crusaders] Re: More Pharma Bull HRT 'might
ward off Alzheimer's'



















    
            



I think the point here is that lowering of the oestragen
prior to the 

surgery led to a reduction in memory.........therefore
normal 

lowering of oestragen in the life cycle might well do the
same.



Similar things happen in males with hypogonadism whether
acquired or 

congenital ie in cases of Klinefelters syndrome (47xxy)



--- In SSRI-Crusaders@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Moore"
<mofunnow...> 

wrote:

>

> My thoughts exactly.

> 

> I have heard that the natural hormone therapies are
better but that 

the FDA

> is supressing the natural and less dangerous therapies.
Probably to 

protect

> the drug makers profits.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Brenda Durant" <Durant_B...>

> To: <ssri-crusaders@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:16 AM

> Subject: RE: [SSRI-Crusaders] More Pharma Bull HRT
'might ward off 

> Alzheimer's'

> 

> 

> 

> That's bull. The evidence of HRT damages is well
documented and 

there are 

> plenty of victims dead and alive. This is just another
attempt to 

keep 

> customers and gains pharma customers. We all know how
the studies 

are 

> altered to present any profit agenda pharma has. No,
you'd thin, 

that they 

> might mention whether of not any drug was given in the
procedures 

would 

> cause the results that they reported.

> 

> To: SSRI-Crusaders@yahoogroups.com

> From: jeremybryce1953...

> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:04:25 +0000

> Subject: [SSRI-Crusaders] HRT 'might ward off
Alzheimer's'

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news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7312252.stm

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> There is no cure for dementia

> 

> Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) may protect
post-menopausal women

> 

> against memory loss and Alzheimer's disease.

> 

> A study found women's memories are affected when their
bodies stop

> 

> producing the hormone oestrogen - as happens at the
menopause.

> 

> 

> 

> However, bond's Institute of Psychiatry found memory
recovered 

when

> 

> hormone supplies were restored - the effect achieved by
HRT.

> 

> 

> 

> Women have a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's than
men.

> 

> 

> 

> There may be a critical window of time around the
menopause when

> 

> HRT may have a beneficial effect in protecting against
Alzheimer's

> 

> dementia

> 

> 

> 

> Dr Michael Craig

> 

> Institute of Psychiatry

> 

> 

> 

> It is estimated that around 450,000 women in the UK
have the 

disease.

> 

> 

> 

> There is a theory that oestrogen may help prevent the
build up of

> 

> damaging protein tangles in the brain which are thought
to trigger

> 

> cell death, and Alzheimer's.

> 

> 

> 

> But when supplies of the hormone are abruptly cut at
the menopause,

> 

> women may become more vulnerable.

> 

> 

> 

> A major US study found no evidence of a protective
effect from HRT -

> 

> and even suggested the combined form of the treatment
might increase

> 

> the general risk of dementia.

> 

> 

> 

> However, UK experts argue that this study focused on
older women, 

who

> 

> did not receive HRT immediately after the menopause.

> 

> 

> 

> Fibroid surgery

> 

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> The latest research was carried out on 30 young,
pre-menopausal 

women

> 

> who were having surgery for benign womb growths called
fibroids.

> 

> 

> 

> The patients were given a drug which shrinks the
fibroids, but which

> 

> also temporarily shuts down the ovaries, producing a
state similar 

to

> 

> the menopause.

> 

> 

> 

> Each woman was given a memory test before, during and
after

> 

> treatment, when their ovaries were once again producing
oestrogen.

> 

> 

> 

> Average scores were similar before and after treatment,
but dipped 

by

> 

> about 10% while the women's ovaries were shut down.

> 

> 

> 

> The researchers also recorded reduced levels of
activity in an area

> 

> of the brain called the pre-frontal cortex during
treatment, which 

is

> 

> linked to learning and memory.

> 

> 

> 

> Lead researcher Dr Michael Craig said evidence was
growing that sex

> 

> hormones, such as oestrogen, did have a direct effect
on the brain.

> 

> 

> 

> He said: "There may be a critical window of time
around the 

menopause

> 

> when HRT may have a beneficial effect in protecting
against

> 

> Alzheimer's dementia.

> 

> 

> 

> However, Rebecca Wood, chief executive of the
Alzheimer's Research

> 

> Trust, said: "This is not conclusive evidence and
women are not

> 

> advised to start HRT specifically to protect against
dementia since

> 

> it can have side-effects and possibly increase the risk
of stroke."

> 

> 

> 

> Certain forms of HRT have been linked to an increased
risk of cancer

> 

> and heart disease, although once again the evidence is
not clear 

cut.

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