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Re: Re: I'd Say It's A Bad Guess
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2008-03-27 11:55:33

There is nothing like taking responsibility for your own health
and researching the different treatments.

By law in Texas doctors are supposed to give you all the alternative
treatments and the pros and cons of everything. That's called informed
consent. I have yet to go to a doctor that has done that. I have been
handed a sack of Lipitor after a 15 minute consultation.

without true informed consent into the treatment that is being recommended
and alternatives a person is blindly allowing another to dictate their
health choices and as we see over and over that is a potentially dangerous
thing
to do. Especially when we know the drug companies don't give a rat's ass
for the patients when compared to the profits.

After heart disease and cancer, the third most common cause of death
is iatrogenic, or doctor caused. Statins are the new estrogens, and
the marketing people are trying to sell that statins prevent
Alzheimer's just as marketers tried to sell estrogens to prevent
dementia. Some wise physician once said that when you have a tonic
that treats everything, it is likely that it treats nothing. Now we
have a plethora of drugs that treat everything. Some preventive
monitoring is a good idea, but increasingly one needs to be skeptical
about medical advice, especially direct from a doctor.

--- In SSRI-Crusaders%40yahoogroups.com">SSRI-Crusadersyahoogroups.com, "Jim Moore"; <mofunnow...> wrote:
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> Now that's what I'm talking about!
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> My Great-Aunt lived to 102 and actively avoided doctors and wouldn't
go near
>; one.
>; She was very wise. It seemed to me most older folks avoided doctors
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>; they were about to die unless
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> I do like the idea that hormones could help memory but getting to the
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> Either these researchers have memory problems and have forgotten the
> thousands of other ways that our body is contaminated and sickened;
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> Just months before the public was informed about how dangerous HRT
is, I had
> surgery to remove a cluster of cysts from my breast. I had been on
HRT for
> almost a year (treatment for Menopause) before the cysts were found.
I had
> pneumonia several times, I had severe head aches, gum problems
developed;
> all side effects of HRT. Had it not been for a very caring surgeon,
I most
>; likely would have developed and died from breast cancer, or stroke. On
> follow up exam, the surgeon got angry when he saw that my OBGYN had
put me
> back on HRT. He said that he and the pathologist had specifically
given a
> written opinion that I should not have HRT, as my cells were broken,
> invasive inductal hyperplasia. He said, when I got cancer, it would
spread
> like wild fire. He called m at work the nest day and had set up an
> appointment with an Onycologist, who would give his opinion. That
Dr. said,
&gt; don't even eat a sweat potato. The OBGYN still pressured me to take
the crap
>; which thickened mucous and caused the other side effects. I have not
had
> pneumonia or the severe head aches since I quit HRT. My mamograms also
>; cleared up. As for memory, I wish I could forget much, especially
about the
> disgraces in care and protection. Thank God, I had a caring and honest
&gt; surgeon. There are too many alterations to our food and our
environment to
> ignore; when making a diagnosis that lack of hormones is causing memory
&gt; problems. My grandmother lived to be almost 100, she had 17 children
and
> almost 100 grandchildren. She had no memory problems, ofcourse, she
saw her
> first doctor when she was on her deaths bed. She drank well water,
raised
>; her own food, and never even saw a fast food restaurant.
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> To: SSRI-Crusaders%40yahoogroups.com">SSRI-Crusadersyahoogroups.com
> From: jeremybryce1953...
>; Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:15:15 +0000
> Subject: [SSRI-Crusaders] Re: More Pharma Bull HRT 'might ward off
> Alzheimer's'
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&gt; --- In SSRI-Crusaders%40yahoogroups.com">SSRI-Crusadersyahoogroups.com, "Jim Moore"; <mofunnow>
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> > From: "Brenda Durant&quot; <Durant_B>
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> > Subject: RE: [SSRI-Crusaders] More Pharma Bull HRT 'might ward off
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> > To: SSRI-Crusaders%40yahoogroups.com">SSRI-Crusadersyahoogroups.com
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> > From: jeremybryce1953
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> > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:04:25 +0000
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