Seeking Advice on Forthcoming PPC Whitepaper

Hey everyone:

Our company (Hanapin Marketing) is going to be launching a
new blog
that focuses on everything and anything pay-per-click
related. To
launch the blog with a bang we are going to publish our
first white
paper, 'Welcome to the Panama Jungle'. This handbook will
discuss the
ins and outs of navigating Yahoo's new PPC interface. So,
where do you
come in? We thought since Panama is frequently discussed in
SEM 2.0,
then perhaps a few of you would be interested in reviewing a
pre-
publication copy of the handbook and letting us know what
you think.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated! Please just drop
me a line
and I would be more than happy to drop you a copy of the
handbook.

Thanks for your time!


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IMHO this is not a good way to start a thread; it's not a
topic, it's
self-promo.
I've explained my reasoning to John off thread. Self-promo
only in a
brief signature, please.
If the forum is used only for pulling people off the forum
for your
own purposes, I'll be blunt:
the forum dies because it's no longer about discussion.
Please inject
content rather than
just using it as a place to recruit, sell, promote, etc. We
carefully
hand-picked 1,300 of the
finest smartest forum members in the world for their keen
sense of
forum decorum... let's
keep it that way.

Andrew
Moderator

On Mar 12, 3:46 pm, "DarkMule" <john....hanapinmarketing.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone:
>
> Our company (Hanapin Marketing) is going to be
launching a new blog
> that focuses on everything and anything pay-per-click
related. To
> launch the blog with a bang we are going to publish our
first white
> paper, 'Welcome to the Panama Jungle'. This handbook
will discuss the
> ins and outs of navigating Yahoo's new PPC interface.
So, where do you
> come in? We thought since Panama is frequently
discussed in SEM 2.0,
> then perhaps a few of you would be interested in
reviewing a pre-
> publication copy of the handbook and letting us know
what you think.
> Your feedback would be greatly appreciated! Please just
drop me a line
> and I would be more than happy to drop you a copy of
the handbook.
>
> Thanks for your time!


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So I've received a nice note from DarkMule on this topic. I
tend to
overreact to these
things because of the difficulty it is in weeding out
"spam"
contributions from any of
these forums nowadays.

A little gentle self-promo is of course the norm. Lately a
lot of new
posters have done
"drive-bys" without really contributing here, so I
felt I needed to
remind DarkMule of where
the line lies.

All I'm saying is we want contributions! And thanks DarkMule
for
understanding.

Andrew

On Mar 12, 10:57 pm, "Andrew Goodman"
<agood...gmail.com> wrote:
> IMHO this is not a good way to start a thread; it's not
a topic, it's
> self-promo.
> I've explained my reasoning to John off thread.
Self-promo only in a
> brief signature, please.
> If the forum is used only for pulling people off the
forum for your
> own purposes, I'll be blunt:
> the forum dies because it's no longer about discussion.
Please inject
> content rather than
> just using it as a place to recruit, sell, promote,
etc. We carefully
> hand-picked 1,300 of the
> finest smartest forum members in the world for their
keen sense of
> forum decorum... let's
> keep it that way.
>
> Andrew
> Moderator
>
> On Mar 12, 3:46 pm, "DarkMule"
<john....hanapinmarketing.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey everyone:
>
> > Our company (Hanapin Marketing) is going to be
launching a new blog
> > that focuses on everything and anything
pay-per-click related. To
> > launch the blog with a bang we are going to
publish our first white
> > paper, 'Welcome to the Panama Jungle'. This
handbook will discuss the
> > ins and outs of navigating Yahoo's new PPC
interface. So, where do you
> > come in? We thought since Panama is frequently
discussed in SEM 2.0,
> > then perhaps a few of you would be interested in
reviewing a pre-
> > publication copy of the handbook and letting us
know what you think.
> > Your feedback would be greatly appreciated! Please
just drop me a line
> > and I would be more than happy to drop you a copy
of the handbook.
>
> > Thanks for your time!


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Great.  Now that we've got that cleared up, hopefully we can
get some
more answers on that poker / porn in SEM topic!  

On 3/13/07, Andrew Goodman <agoodmangmail.com> wrote:
>
> So I've received a nice note from DarkMule on this
topic. I tend to
> overreact to these
> things because of the difficulty it is in weeding out
"spam"
> contributions from any of
> these forums nowadays.
>
> A little gentle self-promo is of course the norm.
Lately a lot of new
> posters have done
> "drive-bys" without really contributing here,
so I felt I needed to
> remind DarkMule of where
> the line lies.
>
> All I'm saying is we want contributions! And thanks
DarkMule for
> understanding.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Mar 12, 10:57 pm, "Andrew Goodman"
<agood...gmail.com> wrote:
> > IMHO this is not a good way to start a thread;
it's not a topic, it's
> > self-promo.
> > I've explained my reasoning to John off thread.
Self-promo only in a
> > brief signature, please.
> > If the forum is used only for pulling people off
the forum for your
> > own purposes, I'll be blunt:
> > the forum dies because it's no longer about
discussion. Please inject
> > content rather than
> > just using it as a place to recruit, sell,
promote, etc. We carefully
> > hand-picked 1,300 of the
> > finest smartest forum members in the world for
their keen sense of
> > forum decorum... let's
> > keep it that way.
> >
> > Andrew
> > Moderator
> >
> > On Mar 12, 3:46 pm, "DarkMule"
<john....hanapinmarketing.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey everyone:
> >
> > > Our company (Hanapin Marketing) is going to
be launching a new blog
> > > that focuses on everything and anything
pay-per-click related. To
> > > launch the blog with a bang we are going to
publish our first white
> > > paper, 'Welcome to the Panama Jungle'. This
handbook will discuss the
> > > ins and outs of navigating Yahoo's new PPC
interface. So, where do you
> > > come in? We thought since Panama is
frequently discussed in SEM 2.0,
> > > then perhaps a few of you would be interested
in reviewing a pre-
> > > publication copy of the handbook and letting
us know what you think.
> > > Your feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Please just drop me a line
> > > and I would be more than happy to drop you a
copy of the handbook.
> >
> > > Thanks for your time!
>
>
> >
>


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I agree, this group is for discussion only...I once was
involved in
SEO forum which initially was discussion only and once self
promotion
was allowed, it went downhill... Having Andrew who is at the
top in
this industry moderate a forum is like having Richard
Branson coaching
you on how to start and run a company...it doesnt get any
better than
this.
Art

On Mar 15, 3:16 am, "ahteram uddin"
<ahte...gmail.com> wrote:
> I strongly support Andrew for opposing promotional
links. Dont see a reason
> to stick around to this forum if our "Good
Man" wont be there. I believe
> that over a period most of us have learned and grown
with this forum so it
> deserves a great respect.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ahteram Uddin
>
> On 15/03/07, Joe Severn <josi...gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yup I second the decision for zero promotional
links. It's kinda like
> > being down the pub (read bar) with your friends
and colleagues and
> > some fool around the table keeps trying to get you
to join Amway or
> > something.
>
> > The crowd here offer serious input, and I'm here
to share and learn.
> > OK learn mostly because I haven't actually
contributed that much over
> > the months.
>
> > So here's a pay it forward from me.
>
> > I use dynamic keyword insertion in my Adwords
destination URL, which
> > supposedly send the actual keyword the user
entered through my
> > tracking software, so I can see which keywords are
being searched on.
>
> > Sounds obvious right?
>
> > Not quite, recently I installed another more
robust and professional
> > tracking software that doesn't require that I use
Adwords dynamic
> > keyword insertion to track the keywords. This new
script strips out a
> > completely different set of keywords.
>
> > I have a deep hunch that using dynamic keyword
insertion in the
> > destination only returns the keywords that you
list in your adgroups
> > NOT the actual keywords the surfer entered. This
is especially true
> > for broad match.
>
> > OK most probably not the greatest discovery to
some of you more
> > advanced SEMers, but has anyone else noticed this
flaw in Adwords
> > dynamic keyword insertion in the destination URL?
>
> > Joe
>
> --
> Ahteram Uddin
> Communicate2


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