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AW: The Bibliographic Ontology Specification Group
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Hungary		 2007-05-15 07:47:07 

  


  

    Hey 
Matthias, hey Eric, hey all,

why 
not take the MARC21 (or in XMLvariant MARCXML)-standard as a base. I know that 
right now in Germany all bibliographic data exchange has to move over using this 
standard.


tanja



  
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2007 14:35
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Betreff: RE: [hcls] The 
  Bibliographic Ontology Specification Group



  
Matthias,

How much will this initiative utilize prior 
  standards such as dublin core (OCLC)? Some of what you point out has been 
  worked on already by others.

Eric


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To: 
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Subject: [hcls] The Bibliographic Ontology 
  Specification Group


I want to bring an initiative to your attention 
  that should be of interest to many of the participants of the HCLS: The 
  "Bibliographic Ontology Specification Group". As I have already summarized on 
  a ESW Wiki page [1], we are currently lacking a common way for representing 
  bibliographic information, and this is a highly undesirable state -- 
  references to publications and authorship information are fundamental to 
  scientific discourse. The newly founded Bibliographic Ontology Specification 
  Group has the goal of creating a unified ontology that would solve this 
  problem.
There is very generic website [2] and a Google Group [3] available 
  at the moment.

I think a cooperation of some interested members of the 
  HCLSIG and this initiative could be of benefit to all involved 
  parties.

-- Matthias Samwald


[1] http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/HCLSIG_BibliographicInformation
[2] 
  http://bibliontology.com/
[3] http://groups.google.com/group/bibliographic-ontology-specification-group



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     2007-05-15 09:13:55
  


  

    

> why not take the MARC21 (or in XMLvariant
MARCXML)-standard as a base. I
> know that right now in Germany all bibliographic data
exchange has to move
> over using this standard.

Hi Tanja,

There is, in fact, a project that deals with creating a
Semantic Web ontology based on the MARC metadata standard:

http://www.marcont.org/

However, there are reservations against using something that
is too similar to Bibtex or MARC, because it is perceived as
a rather 'flat' and unstructured representation. This is
discussed in the comments here:

http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007
/04/15/the-bibliographic-ontology/

I am also not sure how much community acceptance Marcont
has. I need to take a closer look at that project.

cheers,
Matthias Samwald
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    Bibliographic Data Ontolgy by Tom Gruber
  


  

     country flaguser name
United States		
     2007-05-15 12:47:23
  


  

    

Hi,

You guys may also want to look at the Bibliographic Data
Ontology by Tom Gruber:

http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/know
ledge-sharing/ontologies/html/bibliographic-data
/index.html

Cheers,

---Vipul


> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-semweb-lifesci-requestw3.org
[mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-
> requestw3.org] On Behalf Of samwaldgmx.at
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:14 AM
> To: Tanja Sieber, Advanced Content Engineering;
public-semweb-
> lifesciw3.org
> Subject: AW: [hcls] The Bibliographic Ontology
Specification Group
> 
> 
> 
> > why not take the MARC21 (or in XMLvariant
MARCXML)-standard as a base. I
> > know that right now in Germany all bibliographic
data exchange has to
> move
> > over using this standard.
> 
> Hi Tanja,
> 
> There is, in fact, a project that deals with creating a
Semantic Web
> ontology based on the MARC metadata standard:
> 
> http://www.marcont.org/
> 
> However, there are reservations against using something
that is too
> similar to Bibtex or MARC, because it is perceived as a
rather 'flat' and
> unstructured representation. This is discussed in the
comments here:
> 
> http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007
/04/15/the-bibliographic-ontology/
> 
> I am also not sure how much community acceptance
Marcont has. I need to
> take a closer look at that project.
> 
> cheers,
> Matthias Samwald
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