Re: how to image laptop partition?

I have found the most fool proof way to prepare a hard drive for a
cloning operation is to just put it in a laptop that I can boot from a
CD and start the XP install process. AFter the F8 agreement, you can
choose the partition and let windows format it. I usually let it beging
to copy the files and reboot once, then I kill the unit, take the
ready-to-go hard drive out and clone it. Never have a problem with
stupid error messages like hard drive not found, or disk read error or
such when I do this first.

Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell%40icehouse.net">ardellicehouse.net
509-891-5188

trott3r%40fastmail.fm">trott3rfastmail.fm wrote:

>
> Since an imaging tool is a powerful tool I am not too keen
>; on giving a new program that i am not familiar with a run
> as a mistake is fatal.
>
> I could take a different risk and just partition the laptop
> HDD into 2 and hope nothing screws up. Then i could use ghost
> to image to a different partition. Better to take a risk with a
> program i am familiar with rather than one that i am not.
>;
> Martin N
>
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 04:29:16 -0400, "Vincent Winterling"
&gt; < vwinterling%40comcast.net">vwinterlingcomcast.net <mailto:vwinterling%40comcast.net>&gt; said:
&gt; > I don't know. I copy images using ATI to an internal disk and then burn
>; > them
>; > to disk, usu. dvd.
>; >
>; > Why not give XXclone a try? It's free. Seems to come highly recommended
> > by
> > one of our list members.
> >
>; > Vincent Winterling
> > Vineland, NJ
> >
>; >
>; > -----Original Message-----
> > From: simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto: simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > trott3r%40fastmail.fm">trott3rfastmail.fm <mailto:trott3r%40fastmail.fm>
&gt; > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:41 PM
> > To: simplycomputers2
&gt; > Subject: RE: [Simply Computers] how to image laptop partition?
> >
>; > Thats what I was worried about :(
> >
>; > Can you confirm if usb devices do show up in the newer version of
> > norton?
> > or even acronis as a last resort.
> >
>; > Its a bit annoying paying out when its only for one job
> >
>; > Martin N
> >
>; > On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:17:02 -0400, "Vincent Winterling"
&gt; > < vwinterling%40comcast.net">vwinterlingcomcast.net <mailto:vwinterling%40comcast.net>&gt; said:
&gt; > > Unfortunately, it looks like your choices are to upgrade ghost, use
> > > xxclone,
> > > or consider Acronis. Both XXclone and Acronis are cheaper than Ghost
&gt; > > version
> > > 14. There are free or low cost alternatives on our website.
> > >
>; > >
>; >
> http://ronfamily.dyndns.org:8080/~david/SimplyComputersWiki/index.php?n=Main
> <http://ronfamily.dyndns.org:8080/%7Edavid/SimplyComputersWiki/index.php?n=Main>;
> > > .BackingUpMyComputer
> > >
>; > > or, http://tinyurl.com/5tdwfa <http://tinyurl.com/5tdwfa>
> > >
>; > > Vincent Winterling
> > > Vineland, NJ
> > >
>; > >
>; > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto: simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > > trott3r%40fastmail.fm">trott3rfastmail.fm <mailto:trott3r%40fastmail.fm>
&gt; > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:46 PM
> > > To: simplycomputers2
&gt; > > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] how to image laptop partition?
> > >
>; > > Unfortunately norton ghost 2002 doesnt recognise the usb device
&gt; > > when i try to clone the usb HDD or create an image on the usb HDD.
>; > >
>; > > thats were i am stuck
&gt; > >
>; > > Martin N
> > >
>; > >
>; > > On Tue, 13 May 2008 21:29:22 -0000, "avbsantos2";
> < avbsantos2%40yahoo.com">avbsantos2yahoo.com <mailto:avbsantos2%40yahoo.com>>
> > > said:
&gt; > > > Using your external case is the same thing as using the USB adapter
> > > > cable that Ardell mentions.
> > > >
>; > > > Armando
> > > > -- In simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>, trott3r... wrote:
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > Hello,
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > I have an external ide to usb case that i put the laptop in.
> > > > > I was hoping to use this.
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > Are you saying get a cable to connect directly to the motherboard
> > > > > connector?
> > > > >
>; > > > > thanks
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > Martin N
> > > > >
>; > > > > On Tue, 13 May 2008 13:11:40 -0700, "Ardell Faul" <ardell...>
> > > > > said:
&gt; > > > > > I use the freeware program XXCLONE.exe everyday.
> > > > > > http://www.xxclone.com/ixclnfaq.htm
> <http://www.xxclone.com/ixclnfaq.htm> I use it to access all the hard
>; >
>; > > > > > drives I need to clean, repair, backup. or clone. by using a USB
> > > > to IDE
> > > > > > adapter cable.
&gt; > > > > > I also have Ghost, but I prefer xxclone almost
&gt; > > > > > exclusively. If you are trying to clone your existing drive,
> just
>; > > > > > install it in that computer, then plug the new drive in with an
> > > > adapter
> > > > > > cable, and you can clone the C drive and make it bootable right
&gt; > > > from the
> > > > > > existing operating system. It also has a disk management area so
> > you
> > > > > > can prep the drive properly to make it cloneable.
> > > > > >
>; > > > > > Ardell Faul
>; > > > > > Computer Monitor Service Inc.
>; > > > > > Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
&gt; > > > > > 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
&gt; > > > > > Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
&gt; > > > > > ardell...
> > > > > > 509-891-5188
> > > > > >
>; > > > > >
>; > > > > >
>; > > > > > trott3r... wrote:
&gt; > > > > >
>; > > > > > > Hello,
&gt; > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > I normally image my computers hard drive using norton
> ghost 2002
>; > on
> > > > > > > floppy.
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > When i tried to image my new laptop it complains that i cant
>; > > > create an
> > > > > > > image file
>; > > > > > > on the partition i am imaging. Thats logical i guess however i
> > > > dont want
>; > > > > > > to partition
> > > > > > > the laptop HDD into 2 partitions as i dont have a backup
> yet (cant
&gt; > > > > > > image).
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > I have put the laptop HDD into an external drive case but
> norton
&gt; > > > ghost
&gt; > > > > > > 2002 will not
> > > > > > > the hard drive so i cant back it up.
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > So how do i resolve the situation?
> > > > > > > I could buy a newer version of ghost but this is the one i use
> > > > for work
>; > > > > > > and so dont
>; > > > > > > want to switch.
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > any other ideas?
&gt; > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > Thanks
&gt; > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > Martin N
> >
>; --
>
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That would be a good idea for a standard xp install but this is
a ibm thinkpad which has extra utilities included. It didnt come
with a xp cd only the usual restore cd. I could try to make one
from the os but previous attempts have created a cd that instantly
resets
after the press any key to boot windows install cd prompt.

I eventually found the driveimageXML on the simply home page.
It was very simple to use. I am happy that i have a restore image
just in case partioning goes ary.

Thanks to all that helped

Martin N

On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:33:14 -0700, "Ardell Faul" < ardell%40icehouse.net">ardellicehouse.net>
said:
>; I have found the most fool proof way to prepare a hard drive for a
> cloning operation is to just put it in a laptop that I can boot from a
> CD and start the XP install process. AFter the F8 agreement, you can
> choose the partition and let windows format it. I usually let it beging
> to copy the files and reboot once, then I kill the unit, take the
> ready-to-go hard drive out and clone it. Never have a problem with
> stupid error messages like hard drive not found, or disk read error or
> such when I do this first.
&gt;
> Ardell Faul
>; Computer Monitor Service Inc.
>; Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
&gt; 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
&gt; Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
&gt; ardell%40icehouse.net">ardellicehouse.net
> 509-891-5188
>
>
>
> trott3r%40fastmail.fm">trott3rfastmail.fm wrote:
&gt;
> >
>; > Since an imaging tool is a powerful tool I am not too keen
>; > on giving a new program that i am not familiar with a run
> > as a mistake is fatal.
&gt; >
>; > I could take a different risk and just partition the laptop
&gt; > HDD into 2 and hope nothing screws up. Then i could use ghost
&gt; > to image to a different partition. Better to take a risk with a
> > program i am familiar with rather than one that i am not.
>; >
>; > Martin N
> >
>; > On Wed, 14 May 2008 04:29:16 -0400, "Vincent Winterling"
&gt; > < vwinterling%40comcast.net">vwinterlingcomcast.net <mailto:vwinterling%40comcast.net>&gt; said:
&gt; > > I don't know. I copy images using ATI to an internal disk and then burn
>; > > them
>; > > to disk, usu. dvd.
>; > >
>; > > Why not give XXclone a try? It's free. Seems to come highly recommended
> > > by
> > > one of our list members.
> > >
>; > > Vincent Winterling
> > > Vineland, NJ
> > >
>; > >
>; > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto: simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > > trott3r%40fastmail.fm">trott3rfastmail.fm <mailto:trott3r%40fastmail.fm>
&gt; > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:41 PM
> > > To: simplycomputers2
&gt; > > Subject: RE: [Simply Computers] how to image laptop partition?
> > >
>; > > Thats what I was worried about :(
> > >
>; > > Can you confirm if usb devices do show up in the newer version of
> > > norton?
> > > or even acronis as a last resort.
> > >
>; > > Its a bit annoying paying out when its only for one job
> > >
>; > > Martin N
> > >
>; > > On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:17:02 -0400, "Vincent Winterling"
&gt; > > < vwinterling%40comcast.net">vwinterlingcomcast.net <mailto:vwinterling%40comcast.net>&gt; said:
&gt; > > > Unfortunately, it looks like your choices are to upgrade ghost, use
> > > > xxclone,
> > > > or consider Acronis. Both XXclone and Acronis are cheaper than Ghost
&gt; > > > version
> > > > 14. There are free or low cost alternatives on our website.
> > > >
>; > > >
>; > >
> > http://ronfamily.dyndns.org:8080/~david/SimplyComputersWiki/index.php?n=Main
> > <http://ronfamily.dyndns.org:8080/%7Edavid/SimplyComputersWiki/index.php?n=Main>;
> > > > .BackingUpMyComputer
> > > >
>; > > > or, http://tinyurl.com/5tdwfa <http://tinyurl.com/5tdwfa>
> > > >
>; > > > Vincent Winterling
> > > > Vineland, NJ
> > > >
>; > > >
>; > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto: simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > > > trott3r%40fastmail.fm">trott3rfastmail.fm <mailto:trott3r%40fastmail.fm>
&gt; > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:46 PM
> > > > To: simplycomputers2
&gt; > > > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] how to image laptop partition?
> > > >
>; > > > Unfortunately norton ghost 2002 doesnt recognise the usb device
&gt; > > > when i try to clone the usb HDD or create an image on the usb HDD.
>; > > >
>; > > > thats were i am stuck
&gt; > > >
>; > > > Martin N
> > > >
>; > > >
>; > > > On Tue, 13 May 2008 21:29:22 -0000, "avbsantos2";
> > < avbsantos2%40yahoo.com">avbsantos2yahoo.com <mailto:avbsantos2%40yahoo.com>>
> > > > said:
&gt; > > > > Using your external case is the same thing as using the USB adapter
> > > > > cable that Ardell mentions.
> > > > >
>; > > > > Armando
> > > > > -- In simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com">simplycomputers2yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>, trott3r... wrote:
&gt; > > > > >
>; > > > > > Hello,
&gt; > > > > >
>; > > > > > I have an external ide to usb case that i put the laptop in.
> > > > > > I was hoping to use this.
&gt; > > > > >
>; > > > > > Are you saying get a cable to connect directly to the motherboard
> > > > > > connector?
> > > > > >
>; > > > > > thanks
&gt; > > > > >
>; > > > > > Martin N
> > > > > >
>; > > > > > On Tue, 13 May 2008 13:11:40 -0700, "Ardell Faul" <ardell...>
> > > > > > said:
&gt; > > > > > > I use the freeware program XXCLONE.exe everyday.
> > > > > > > http://www.xxclone.com/ixclnfaq.htm
> > <http://www.xxclone.com/ixclnfaq.htm> I use it to access all the hard
>; > >
>; > > > > > > drives I need to clean, repair, backup. or clone. by using a USB
> > > > > to IDE
> > > > > > > adapter cable.
&gt; > > > > > > I also have Ghost, but I prefer xxclone almost
&gt; > > > > > > exclusively. If you are trying to clone your existing drive,
> > just
>; > > > > > > install it in that computer, then plug the new drive in with an
> > > > > adapter
> > > > > > > cable, and you can clone the C drive and make it bootable right
&gt; > > > > from the
> > > > > > > existing operating system. It also has a disk management area so
> > > you
> > > > > > > can prep the drive properly to make it cloneable.
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > Ardell Faul
>; > > > > > > Computer Monitor Service Inc.
>; > > > > > > Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
&gt; > > > > > > 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
&gt; > > > > > > Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
&gt; > > > > > > ardell...
> > > > > > > 509-891-5188
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > >
>; > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > trott3r... wrote:
&gt; > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > Hello,
&gt; > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > I normally image my computers hard drive using norton
> > ghost 2002
>; > > on
> > > > > > > > floppy.
> > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > When i tried to image my new laptop it complains that i cant
>; > > > > create an
> > > > > > > > image file
>; > > > > > > > on the partition i am imaging. Thats logical i guess however i
> > > > > dont want
>; > > > > > > > to partition
> > > > > > > > the laptop HDD into 2 partitions as i dont have a backup
> > yet (cant
&gt; > > > > > > > image).
> > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > I have put the laptop HDD into an external drive case but
> > norton
&gt; > > > > ghost
&gt; > > > > > > > 2002 will not
> > > > > > > > the hard drive so i cant back it up.
> > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > So how do i resolve the situation?
> > > > > > > > I could buy a newer version of ghost but this is the one i use
> > > > > for work
>; > > > > > > > and so dont
>; > > > > > > > want to switch.
> > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > any other ideas?
&gt; > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > Thanks
&gt; > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > Martin N
> > >
>; > --
> >
>; > trott3r%40fastmail.fm">trott3rfastmail.fm <mailto:trott3r%40fastmail.fm>
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