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Q&A: Moving from Frame Relay to MPLS VPN, More
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1. Q&A: Moving from Frame Relay to MPLS VPN
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1. Q&A: Moving from Frame Relay to MPLS VPN

Send your toughest Cisco technical questions to editortcpmag.com 
with the subject line "Attn: Scott."

Scott,

This may or may not be a CCIE question, but it has been
posed to 
me anyway!

We are putting our WAN carrier contracts out for bid, and it
seems 
like everyone wants to move us from the frame relay network
we 
currently have into an MPLS VPN (private MPLS?) network.

How much of a pain is that going to be for us to change
things? 
Each bid says it's the best thing and will be seamless, but
I am 
not sure.

Thanks,
--Sam

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Sam,

So you're learning early on to not trust carriers, huh?
Especially 
salespeople. 

All of that aside, I'll sit back and rely on the great Cisco
answer 
of "it depends"! There are many things that ARE
seamless, as far as 
a customer-side MPLS deployment goes, and that makes things
very 
nice. We have a connection, we see other offices and life is
good.

But the "it depends" part comes in depending on
how your current 
WAN is set up. Are you running a dynamic routing protocol?
If so, 
which one? Is it just static routes (hub-spoke concept)? Is
your 
provider talking about Layer 2 connections or Layer 3
connections?

From a common RFC2547 type MPLS VPN at Layer 3, there are
many 
options for us, most of which will depend on the service
provider 
and what they sell and/or are comfortable with themselves!
While 
the whole point of an MPLS network is to be invisible as far
as 
the multihop connections and "look and feel" just
like your old 
frame relay WAN was.

That isn't necessarily the case. Being an IP-based network,
we do 
run into some technical issues along the way for
connectivity. Your 
service provider will be running BGP (OK, MBGP) on the
internal 
side. Whether or not you run BGP is irrelevant. They will.
So your 
"end" of a connection is really only from your
router to theirs 
(CE to PE, or customer edge to provider edge). This concept
isn't 
any different from frame relay, but what happens from there
is.

Frame relay performed switching based (typically) on
manually 
preset paths. More recently, most providers do some fancy 
conversions to re-encapsulate your frames into IP or
something like 
that to take advantage of more dynamic connectivity on their
side 
of the equation.  But re-encapsulation meant that their
connection 
TO your device was treated as a Layer 2 connection, and they
didn't 
care about the contents.

Everyone has touted MPLS as being carefree like this, and
the ability 
to share a single service provider infrastructure with
multiple 
customers even though they have overlapping addresses. But
the fact 
of the matter is that they start with a Layer 3 connection,
which 
means they ARE, indeed, stuck in the middle as far as
routing 
protocols and interactions go. So what are your options?

If they make you run BGP, the service provider should
actually make 
the necessary changes to ensure that your routes aren't
rejected 
upon reentry (magic that takes a little while to explain).
But the 
difference you may see is that suddenly all of your
connections are 
eBGP instead of iBGP ones!

If you are allowed to run EIGRP, then you'll see many routes
as 
"D EX" or external due to the redistribution they
are providing 
you, because your peering is actually with the service
provider, not 
with your router on the other end. RIP follows this same
logic, 
although there's no care whether a route is internal or
external!

OSPF can follow a few different paths, and you'll have to
wait and 
see what the SP architecture allows for. If the service
provider is 
participating in your OSPF protocol, it will normally appear
as 
area 0 to be the "backbone" network. Most
recently, we have added a 
feature called an OSPF sham-link, which allows a pseudo-link
to be 
built between your CE devices, making the service provider
network 
more transparent.

Of course, there's always the option that your service
provider is 
running VPLS or L2TPv3 or some other version of Layer 2 over
MPLS 
which truly will erase it from the equation, making the
"look and 
feel" of your network just like frame-relay, except
that it's 
Ethernet to Ethernet now. Cool, huh?

Now you see there's some great variety involved in that
answer and it 
truly does depend on what your carrier is set to do. So
before you 
sign on the dotted line, I'd suggest taking some time with
the 
technical folks from your carrier to make sure you
understand exactly 
what is going to be happening and how much of that will be
your 
responsibility. 

MPLS VPNs certainly do have great potential for saving money
and 
increasing speed and features available, but if they're not
known 
ahead of time, they can also cause their fair share of
stress in 
a cutover!

For more information, check out:

http:/
/www.rfc-archive.org/getrfc.php?rfc=4577
http://tinyurl.com/yfxdkv 
http://tinyurl.com/yby3ma 
http://tinyurl.com/4hjl4

http://www.netcraftsmen.net/welcher/papers/mplspece.html
 (A little 
older, but still good.)

Hope that helps,
--Scott

Scott Morris, quadruple CCIE, JNCIE and all-around
Uber-Geek, can often 
be seen traveling around the world consulting and delivering
CCIE 
training. He has recently stepped up as VP of Curriculum
Development 
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