New user, evaluating XML libraries

On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 05:16:58PM +0000, Boris Kolpackov
wrote:
> Daniel, I do not want to start a flame war here but I
think you are being
> contradictory here. The OP said that he is not sure
whether he needs XML
> Schema validation or not. Instead of just ignoring this
topic altogether,
> in your reply you started spreading FUD about XSD and
promoting Relax-NG

  XSD is a very problematic spec, and not just from a
readability point of
view. It's not FUD, it's fact from my viewpoint. There are
just too many cases
of example where one can't tell clearly from the spec what a
validator
should do, which sorry, may be good enough for converting
"1234" to an int 
value but not something I would suggest to use for
*validation*. Call that
FUD if you want but yes there is good reason to Fear Xsd,
have Uncertainties
about it and cast Doubts about its capabilities. I tried to
implement both
I still implemented significant part of the core of our XSD
support, and
even if it was perfectly complete (but I think now it's not
even possible
with XSD 1.0) I would still suggest people use RNG to
validate struture
based purely on the intrinsic qualities of the specs, the
datatype part
of XSD is good enough, and usually reused as is by RNG
users.

> (about which OP haven't said a word). Now when I
present arguments against
> your XSD FUD, you are calling it promotion and
off-topic. Not very nice,
> IMO.

  I reacted to the push for your data binding software,
which IMHO wasn't
what was asked for. Maybe I'm not nice, sorry about that,
but I don't go
to your user mailing list trying to get the people to use
something else 
when they ask about the toolkit capability. Maybe I don't
understand
what you're really trying to do, maybe I didn't really
understood the
original question, oh well ...

Daniel

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Daniel Veillard <veillardredhat.com> writes:

>   I reacted to the push for your data binding software,
which IMHO wasn't
> what was asked for.

I was merely pointing to one of the advantages of XSD which
you bashed
in your post.


> Maybe I'm not nice, sorry about that, but I don't go to
your user mailing
> list trying to get the people to use something else
when they ask about
> the toolkit capability.

My comment was purely XSD vs RNG. Are you saying that you
are the only
one who is allowed to suggest what should and should not be
used on this
mailing list? If so, then sorry, I will refrain from posting
here again.


-boris
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On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:28:40PM +0200, Boris Kolpackov
wrote:
> Daniel Veillard <veillardredhat.com> writes:
> > Maybe I'm not nice, sorry about that, but I don't
go to your user mailing
> > list trying to get the people to use something
else when they ask about
> > the toolkit capability.
> 
> My comment was purely XSD vs RNG. Are you saying that
you are the only
> one who is allowed to suggest what should and should
not be used on this
> mailing list? If so, then sorry, I will refrain from
posting here again.

  Maybe I'm in a bad mood day (apparently) but I'm hopefully
not the
only one (that would be boring), I'm one voice among others.

Daniel

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