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Re: Still alive?
user name
2008-05-14 07:51:00
Yes, it is the one, it works, as long as you can get it to align the screen well enough, that you can insert the password.
The trouble is, that the alignment of the cursor don't work well (or at all), so when you punch the letters, you have to
try to find where to point the stylus to actually get the letter you want. It is 0.4-10 mm off where it should be.

Mikko Silvennoinen

All read the previous messages !
we are creating a backup mailing-list, if you are wanting to make sure you get info in the future
send your e-mail to pwar.net">mikkopwar.net


Sonny wrote:
web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com" type="cite">
Mikko ,is this to say that it works even partly, I have not been able to get past the screen alignment settings page on my x50v. I am using the same image you list or has this image been edited within the last year (the date of the image being 2007-06-27) is the name should be appended.


--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Mikko Silvennoinen pwar.net"><mikkopwar.net&gt; wrote:
From: Mikko Silvennoinen pwar.net"><mikkopwar.net&gt;
Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
To: "The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50" handhelds.org"><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 5:23 AM

There is something wrong with the web-site.
Some of the stuff can be found elsewhere in the web, but it migth be hard to get everything.
I haven't tried really hard to find out what's the situation of the web-site, but I think it migth be
down because of lack of money or interest.
I think it would be great if you could put up a new one and a backup mailing-list if this one stops
working. I think irc-channel is not so good, because often there is information lost and
not everybody is getting it.
I can put up an FTP-server and put all the stuff there.
When I get it up, you should get it all and save it on a cd.
To re-create the mailing list/ backup everybody who wants to make sure to stay with in the future
should send their e-mail-address directly to me: pwar.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">mikkopwar.net or
Stavros , who must let us know to what address ?
Or who wants can put their e-mail addresses on this list to make sure all others get it.
I can make a link for further info to my web-page http://www.bittiainen.com or
at some point http://www.pwar.net or if those break for some reason to
http://www.sci.fi/~topweb/

Mikko Silvennoinen

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
OK i just tried to get the kernel and the rest but non of the links
work :(

Any ideas?

Stavros Polymenis


-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Silvennoinen pwar.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><mikkopwar.net&gt;
Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
handhelds.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
handhelds.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:48:50 +0300

Easiest making the SD-card:
I used gparted on a linux desktop for partitioning the SD-card and
formatting it, qparted works well too,
found from System Tools menu.
You can use your linux desktop's archiving tool-programs found usually
from Accessories menu for
unarchiving the Ångström image to the  formatted ext2 partition on the
SD-card.
Or better first  to hard drive, and then copy to SD.
 Try Krusader with root mode found e.g. on  Kanotix  live linux cd for
tools.
Or more  widely on almost every linux desktop: Konqueror-web-browser,
with this trick:
Start it and from menu: Settings > Load View Profile > Midnigth
Commander.

You can make changes to settings and save the view-profile with an other
name.
e.g. FileCommander, then make a new launcer for it to panel and put to
the "command":
fmclient openProfile FileCommander

These are more thorough instructions on what needs to be accomplished:
(I don't know if all the web-links are up to date, but most was
originally found from http://www.altavista.com  )
Note: This Readme is a modified Version from
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README

0) Select correct Image

First you have do know which device you have. Select the aximx50 (non
vga) image for the following devices:

   * Dell Axim x50
   * Dell Axim x51

or select the aximx50v (with vga display) image for the following

devices:

   * Dell Axim x50v
   * Dell Axim x51v

1) Download

To boot the experimental GPE image from SD card on a aximx50, you'll
need the following files:

   * the experimental GPE image itself:


     [aximx50 series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2
     [aximx50v series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2

   * the linux kernel:


     [aximx50 series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/zImage-2.6.20-hh2
+cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623
     [aximx50v series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129

   * HaRET:

     http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/haret-0.4.8.exe

   * A default.txt that tells HaRET how to boot the kernel:


     http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/default.txt

2) Prepare


The SD card needs to be partitioned into two partitions: one small FAT
partition that WinCE can see, and one EXT2 partition used as root file
system. I'll assume that the block device of the SD card is
called /dev/sda. Replace this with the correct device on your system.
Instruction could be slightly different for each version of fdisk :

    * Delete all partitions on the SD card:

    fdisk /dev/sda
    d
    1
    d
    2
    d
    3

    * Create partitions, for example a 10MB /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2

using the rest:

    fdisk /dev/sda
    n
    p
    1
    <default> (should be cylinder 1)
    +10M
    n
    p
    2
    <default>
    <default> (should be last cylinder of the card)
    t
    1
    4
    w

   * Create file systems, a VFAT on /dev/sda1 and EXT2 on /dev/sda2:

     mkdosfs /dev/sda1

     mke2fs /dev/sda2


   * Copy HaRET, the kernel and default.txt onto sda1:

     mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
     [aximx50]  cp zImage-2.6.20-hh2
+cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623 /mnt/zImage
     [aximx50v] cp zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129 /mnt/zImage
     cp haret-0.4.8.exe /mnt/haret.exe
     cp default.txt /mnt/default.txt
     umount /dev/sda1


   * Unpack the GPE image onto sda2:

     mount /dev/sda2 /mnt

if mounted in Fedora with mouse from Computer /..to:    /media/disk
     [aximx50]  bzcat
Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
(cd /media/disk; tar x)
     [aximx50v] bzcat
Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
(cd /media/disk; tar x)

     umount /media/disk

3) Boot

Put the SD card into the axim, start haret.exe and tap the "Run"
button...
On X50v/X51v, enable Mirror Mode(Start -> Settings -> System>Mirror).


Note: If linux don't boot try turning WIFI and BLUETOOTH ON or only one
of them.

4) Communicate

Mailing List: handhelds.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">aximx50-porthandhelds.org
(https://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/aximx50-port)
Wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50



You most likely need to edit the default.txt a little to have the
settings you want rigth from
the boot and not having to set so much by hand every time. They are for
haret, and goes to the SD-cards
FAT partition (FAT or FAT32 VFAT all works) .
I changed the ip-numbers, the first is for Axim, the second of the
internet connection eth-card of the machine
 it is connected with usb and third the gateway and  fifth the net
mask. 

Mikko Silvennoinen


  
The installing was quite succesful, and
easy, if you can find the instructions and can follow them.
The more trickier part is to first back up everything.
Also and especially the bios of Axim. And test if you can restore
everything, if
something goes wrong.
It is not anyhow absolutely necessary with Axim X51v to back up bios.
With some other models it is.
It is safest to anyhow make sure you have a rigth new bios from Dell
company web-site, and
ability to load it, if something goes wrong. There is also some useful
programs that is helpful
to install on Axim, before doing anything dangerous to bios.

I have a laptop with Fedora 6 linux, which I used to do most of this,
and you probably need a Windows machine
to use for backup and installing programs for Axim, before proceeding
and to prepare and to be able to
load Dell factory bios back if something goes wrong, but 
I recommend first everybody try to use the system you are most
familiar with.
If you only have Windows, and need some linux-system fast try:
http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
it is a bootable live-linux cd, that is the best available now. It's
up and running in minutes.
I think, I will change more to Debian in the future, which I have on
some machines.


Instructions: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/x50vHowTo


Once booted the Ångström-image from SD-card, everything else works
reasonably well, but
the trouble is, that when trying to type text with the small virtual
keyboard
on the touch screen, it is often difficult, because, there is
something wrong
with the calibration system or some settings of the touch screen.
I don't yet exactly know what it is, but, somebody said earlier, that,
it could be
something in the kernel. There migth be something in some settings
file, that could be an other reason, but I don't know.
If there is something wrong in the kernel, it must be fixed first.
If it is of some settings file fixing it by editing is possible, but
you would have to know
where to look for.
Then also installing an other windowing system could work. Like I
think, the Google android is
one possible. Someone said earlier he wants to try that. There are
several others that are possible.

I think it depends on, what you want to use your Axim for, that you
can make a sensible choice.
At first the most sensible is, what works at all. Later you could have
even several different SD-cards 
for different systems.
We would have to make a better version of the Ångström-image with the
problem fixed.
Has anyone a bluetooth keyboard that would work with Axim and linux,
that migth be a temporary

work around, so you can use the current image better, to study it and
try to fix it on-line ?

Mikko

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote: 
    
Hi Mikko,

Thanks for your quick reply. How successful were you installing linux on
your x51v ?

what did you need to install it and what problems do u have?

Regards,
Stavros 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Silvennoinen pwar.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><mikkopwar.net&gt;
Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
handhelds.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
handhelds.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:44 +0300

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
  
      
Greetings all,

Is this effort still alive?

Regards

  
    
        
Some are still trying something.
Although I noticed, that the certificate of the secure-pages on web-site 
is outdated.

If your browser is configured rigth, it should complain about this.
Who is responsible of maintaining the list web-page ?

Has anybody the .config -file of the kernel source-code for Axim 
(ARM-processor kernel),
I have Axim X51v. I am planning to maybe reconfigure it, in hope of 
correcting the
problem of the touch-screen-keyboard and touch screen calibration, (by 
using command: make xconfig) and
changing what want/need, and recompiling from newest source-code.

Mikko Silvennoinen

 

  
      
  

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Re: Still alive?
country flaguser name
United States
2008-05-14 09:22:32

Thanks for the answer....  I will try again, been a couple months since I got the 50v

If I remember right it was impossible to figure out the offset, one tap would show on one side of the display and the next tap in the same place would show on the other side.

Will reply with results shortly if anyone wishes.

--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Mikko Silvennoinen <mikkopwar.net&gt; wrote:

From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikkopwar.net&gt;
Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
To: "The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50" <aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 7:51 AM

Yes, it is the one, it works, as long as you can get it to align the screen well enough, that you can insert the password.
The trouble is, that the alignment of the cursor don't work well (or at all), so when you punch the letters, you have to
try to find where to point the stylus to actually get the letter you want. It is 0.4-10 mm off where it should be.

Mikko Silvennoinen

All read the previous messages !
we are creating a backup mailing-list, if you are wanting to make sure you get info in the future
send your e-mail to pwar.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>mikkopwar.net


Sonny wrote:
Mikko ,is this to say that it works even partly, I have not been able to get past the screen alignment settings page on my x50v. I am using the same image you list or has this image been edited within the last year (the date of the image being 2007-06-27) is the name should be appended.


--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Mikko Silvennoinen pwar.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow><mikkopwar.net&gt; wrote:
From: Mikko Silvennoinen pwar.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow><mikkopwar.net&gt;
Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
To: "The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50" handhelds.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 5:23 AM

There is something wrong with the web-site.
Some of the stuff can be found elsewhere in the web, but it migth be hard to get everything.
I haven't tried really hard to find out what's the situation of the web-site, but I think it migth be
down because of lack of money or interest.
I think it would be great if you could put up a new one and a backup mailing-list if this one stops
working. I think irc-channel is not so good, because often there is information lost and
not everybody is getting it.
I can put up an FTP-server and put all the stuff there.
When I get it up, you should get it all and save it on a cd.
To re-create the mailing list/ backup everybody who wants to make sure to stay with in the future
should send their e-mail-address directly to me: pwar.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>mikkopwar.net or
Stavros , who must let us know to what address ?
Or who wants can put their e-mail addresses on this list to make sure all others get it.
I can make a link for further info to my web-page http://www.bittiainen.com or
at some point http://www.pwar.net or if those break for some reason to
http://www.sci.fi/~topweb/

Mikko Silvennoinen

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
OK i just tried to get the kernel and the rest but non of the links
work :(

Any ideas?

Stavros Polymenis


-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Silvennoinen pwar.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow><mikkopwar.net&gt;
Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
handhelds.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
handhelds.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:48:50 +0300

Easiest making the SD-card:
I used gparted on a linux desktop for partitioning the SD-card and
formatting it, qparted works well too,
found from System Tools menu.
You can use your linux desktop's archiving tool-programs found usually
from Accessories menu for
unarchiving the Ångström image to the  formatted ext2 partition on the
SD-card.
Or better first  to hard drive, and then copy to SD.
 Try Krusader with root mode found e.g. on  Kanotix  live linux cd for
tools.
Or more  widely on almost every linux desktop: Konqueror-web-browser,
with this trick:
Start it and from menu: Settings > Load View Profile > Midnigth
Commander.

You can make changes to settings and save the view-profile with an other
name.
e.g. FileCommander, then make a new launcer for it to panel and put to
the "command":
fmclient openProfile FileCommander

These are more thorough instructions on what needs to be accomplished:
(I don't know if all the web-links are up to date, but most was
originally found from http://www.altavista.com  )
Note: This Readme is a modified Version from
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README

0) Select correct Image

First you have do know which device you have. Select the aximx50 (non
vga) image for the following devices:

   * Dell Axim x50
   * Dell Axim x51

or select the aximx50v (with vga display) image for the following

devices:

   * Dell Axim x50v
   * Dell Axim x51v

1) Download

To boot the experimental GPE image from SD card on a aximx50, you'll
need the following files:

   * the experimental GPE image itself:


     [aximx50 series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2
     [aximx50v series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2

   * the linux kernel:


     [aximx50 series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/zImage-2.6.20-hh2
+cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623
     [aximx50v series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129

   * HaRET:

     http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/haret-0.4.8.exe

   * A default.txt that tells HaRET how to boot the kernel:


     http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/default.txt

2) Prepare


The SD card needs to be partitioned into two partitions: one small FAT
partition that WinCE can see, and one EXT2 partition used as root file
system. I'll assume that the block device of the SD card is
called /dev/sda. Replace this with the correct device on your system.
Instruction could be slightly different for each version of fdisk :

    * Delete all partitions on the SD card:

    fdisk /dev/sda
    d
    1
    d
    2
    d
    3

    * Create partitions, for example a 10MB /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2

using the rest:

    fdisk /dev/sda
    n
    p
    1
    <default> (should be cylinder 1)
    +10M
    n
    p
    2
    <default>
    <default> (should be last cylinder of the card)
    t
    1
    4
    w

   * Create file systems, a VFAT on /dev/sda1 and EXT2 on /dev/sda2:

     mkdosfs /dev/sda1

     mke2fs /dev/sda2


   * Copy HaRET, the kernel and default.txt onto sda1:

     mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
     [aximx50]  cp zImage-2.6.20-hh2
+cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623 /mnt/zImage
     [aximx50v] cp zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129 /mnt/zImage
     cp haret-0.4.8.exe /mnt/haret.exe
     cp default.txt /mnt/default.txt
     umount /dev/sda1


   * Unpack the GPE image onto sda2:

     mount /dev/sda2 /mnt

if mounted in Fedora with mouse from Computer /..to:    /media/disk
     [aximx50]  bzcat
Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
(cd /media/disk; tar x)
     [aximx50v] bzcat
Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
(cd /media/disk; tar x)

     umount /media/disk

3) Boot

Put the SD card into the axim, start haret.exe and tap the "Run"
button...
On X50v/X51v, enable Mirror Mode(Start -> Settings -> System>Mirror).


Note: If linux don't boot try turning WIFI and BLUETOOTH ON or only one
of them.

4) Communicate

Mailing List: handhelds.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>aximx50-porthandhelds.org
(https://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/aximx50-port)
Wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50



You most likely need to edit the default.txt a little to have the
settings you want rigth from
the boot and not having to set so much by hand every time. They are for
haret, and goes to the SD-cards
FAT partition (FAT or FAT32 VFAT all works) .
I changed the ip-numbers, the first is for Axim, the second of the
internet connection eth-card of the machine
 it is connected with usb and third the gateway and  fifth the net
mask. 

Mikko Silvennoinen


  
The installing was quite succesful, and
easy, if you can find the instructions and can follow them.
The more trickier part is to first back up everything.
Also and especially the bios of Axim. And test if you can restore
everything, if
something goes wrong.
It is not anyhow absolutely necessary with Axim X51v to back up bios.
With some other models it is.
It is safest to anyhow make sure you have a rigth new bios from Dell
company web-site, and
ability to load it, if something goes wrong. There is also some useful
programs that is helpful
to install on Axim, before doing anything dangerous to bios.

I have a laptop with Fedora 6 linux, which I used to do most of this,
and you probably need a Windows machine
to use for backup and installing programs for Axim, before proceeding
and to prepare and to be able to
load Dell factory bios back if something goes wrong, but 
I recommend first everybody try to use the system you are most
familiar with.
If you only have Windows, and need some linux-system fast try:
http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
it is a bootable live-linux cd, that is the best available now. It's
up and running in minutes.
I think, I will change more to Debian in the future, which I have on
some machines.


Instructions: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/x50vHowTo


Once booted the Ångström-image from SD-card, everything else works
reasonably well, but
the trouble is, that when trying to type text with the small virtual
keyboard
on the touch screen, it is often difficult, because, there is
something wrong
with the calibration system or some settings of the touch screen.
I don't yet exactly know what it is, but, somebody said earlier, that,
it could be
something in the kernel. There migth be something in some settings
file, that could be an other reason, but I don't know.
If there is something wrong in the kernel, it must be fixed first.
If it is of some settings file fixing it by editing is possible, but
you would have to know
where to look for.
Then also installing an other windowing system could work. Like I
think, the Google android is
one possible. Someone said earlier he wants to try that. There are
several others that are possible.

I think it depends on, what you want to use your Axim for, that you
can make a sensible choice.
At first the most sensible is, what works at all. Later you could have
even several different SD-cards 
for different systems.
We would have to make a better version of the Ångström-image with the
problem fixed.
Has anyone a bluetooth keyboard that would work with Axim and linux,
that migth be a temporary

work around, so you can use the current image better, to study it and
try to fix it on-line ?

Mikko

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote: 
    
Hi Mikko,

Thanks for your quick reply. How successful were you installing linux on
your x51v ?

what did you need to install it and what problems do u have?

Regards,
Stavros 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Silvennoinen pwar.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow><mikkopwar.net&gt;
Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
handhelds.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
handhelds.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow><aximx50-porthandhelds.org>
Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:44 +0300

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
  
      
Greetings all,

Is this effort still alive?

Regards

  
    
        
Some are still trying something.
Although I noticed, that the certificate of the secure-pages on web-site 
is outdated.

If your browser is configured rigth, it should complain about this.
Who is responsible of maintaining the list web-page ?

Has anybody the .config -file of the kernel source-code for Axim 
(ARM-processor kernel),
I have Axim X51v. I am planning to maybe reconfigure it, in hope of 
correcting the
problem of the touch-screen-keyboard and touch screen calibration, (by 
using command: make xconfig) and
changing what want/need, and recompiling from newest source-code.

Mikko Silvennoinen

 

  
      
  

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Re: Still alive?
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2008-05-14 10:33:39
Mikko,
&nbsp; &nbsp;  I'm working with an X50 not the V.  I just picked it up again about 2 weeks ago and straightened out the framebuffer issue I was having.&nbsp; Everything was offset to the right about 10mm. ; I posted those findings to the mailing list. ; As for my touchscreen issues, I'm just getting into it, I currently can't make it past the calibration screen. dmesg tells me "Sample with too much jitter - ignored&quot;.  My plan is to add a bit more debug code to try and understand what's going on.  This is my first experience with touchscreens so plenty of growing pains.

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Sonny < sonny73044yahoo.com">sonny73044yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks for the answer....  I will try again, been a couple months since I got the 50v

If I remember right it was impossible to figure out the offset, one tap would show on one side of the display and the next tap in the same place would show on the other side.

Will reply with results shortly if anyone wishes.



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Yes, it is the one, it works, as long as you can get it to align the screen well enough, that you can insert the password.
The trouble is, that the alignment of the cursor don't work well (or at all), so when you punch the letters, you have to
try to find where to point the stylus to actually get the letter you want. It is 0.4-10 mm off where it should be.

Mikko Silvennoinen

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Sonny wrote:
Mikko ,is this to say that it works even partly, I have not been able to get past the screen alignment settings page on my x50v. I am using the same image you list or has this image been edited within the last year (the date of the image being 2007-06-27) is the name should be appended.


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Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 5:23 AM

There is something wrong with the web-site.
Some of the stuff can be found elsewhere in the web, but it migth be hard to get everything.
I haven't tried really hard to find out what's the situation of the web-site, but I think it migth be
down because of lack of money or interest.
I think it would be great if you could put up a new one and a backup mailing-list if this one stops
working. I think irc-channel is not so good, because often there is information lost and
not everybody is getting it.
I can put up an FTP-server and put all the stuff there.
When I get it up, you should get it all and save it on a cd.
To re-create the mailing list/ backup everybody who wants to make sure to stay with in the future
should send their e-mail-address directly to me: mikkopwar.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mikkopwar.net or
Stavros , who must let us know to what address ?
Or who wants can put their e-mail addresses on this list to make sure all others get it.
I can make a link for further info to my web-page http://www.bittiainen.com or
at some point http://www.pwar.net or if those break for some reason to
http://www.sci.fi/~topweb/

Mikko Silvennoinen

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
OK i just tried to get the kernel and the rest but non of the links
work :(

Any ideas?

Stavros Polymenis


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Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:48:50 +0300

Easiest making the SD-card:
I used gparted on a linux desktop for partitioning the SD-card and
formatting it, qparted works well too,
found from System Tools menu.
You can use your linux desktop9;s archiving tool-programs found usually
from Accessories menu for
unarchiving the Ångström image to the  formatted ext2 partition on the
SD-card.
Or better first  to hard drive, and then copy to SD.
 Try Krusader with root mode found e.g. on  Kanotix  live linux cd for
tools.
Or more  widely on almost every linux desktop: Konqueror-web-browser,
with this trick:
Start it and from menu: Settings > Load View Profile > Midnigth
Commander.

You can make changes to settings and save the view-profile with an other
name.
e.g. FileCommander, then make a new launcer for it to panel and put to
the "command":

fmclient openProfile FileCommander

These are more thorough instructions on what needs to be accomplished:
(I don't know if all the web-links are up to date, but most was
originally found from http://www.altavista.com  )
Note: This Readme is a modified Version from
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README

0) Select correct Image

First you have do know which device you have. Select the aximx50 (non
vga) image for the following devices:

   * Dell Axim x50
   * Dell Axim x51

or select the aximx50v (with vga display) image for the following

devices:

   * Dell Axim x50v
   * Dell Axim x51v

1) Download

To boot the experimental GPE image from SD card on a aximx50, you'll
need the following files:

   * the experimental GPE image itself:


     [aximx50 series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2
     [aximx50v series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2

   * the linux kernel:


     [aximx50 series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/zImage-2.6.20-hh2
+cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623
     [aximx50v series]
http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129

   * HaRET:

     http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/haret-0.4.8.exe

   * A default.txt that tells HaRET how to boot the kernel:


     http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/default.txt

2) Prepare


The SD card needs to be partitioned into two partitions: one small FAT
partition that WinCE can see, and one EXT2 partition used as root file
system. I'll assume that the block device of the SD card is
called /dev/sda. Replace this with the correct device on your system.
Instruction could be slightly different for each version of fdisk :

    * Delete all partitions on the SD card:

    fdisk /dev/sda
    d
    1
    d
    2
    d
    3

    * Create partitions, for example a 10MB /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2

using the rest:

    fdisk /dev/sda
    n
    p
    1
    <default> (should be cylinder 1)
    +10M
    n
    p
    2
    <default>
    <default> (should be last cylinder of the card)
    t
    1
    4
    w

   * Create file systems, a VFAT on /dev/sda1 and EXT2 on /dev/sda2:

     mkdosfs /dev/sda1

     mke2fs /dev/sda2


   * Copy HaRET, the kernel and default.txt onto sda1:

     mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
     [aximx50]  cp zImage-2.6.20-hh2
+cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623 /mnt/zImage
     [aximx50v] cp zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129 /mnt/zImage
     cp haret-0.4.8.exe /mnt/haret.exe
     cp default.txt /mnt/default.txt
     umount /dev/sda1


   * Unpack the GPE image onto sda2:

     mount /dev/sda2 /mnt

if mounted in Fedora with mouse from Computer /..to:    /media/disk
     [aximx50]  bzcat
Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
(cd /media/disk; tar x)
     [aximx50v] bzcat
Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
(cd /media/disk; tar x)

     umount /media/disk

3) Boot

Put the SD card into the axim, start haret.exe and tap the "Run&quot;
button...
On X50v/X51v, enable Mirror Mode(Start -> Settings -> System>Mirror).


Note: If linux don't boot try turning WIFI and BLUETOOTH ON or only one
of them.

4) Communicate

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Wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50



You most likely need to edit the default.txt a little to have the
settings you want rigth from
the boot and not having to set so much by hand every time. They are for
haret, and goes to the SD-cards
FAT partition (FAT or FAT32 VFAT all works) .
I changed the ip-numbers, the first is for Axim, the second of the
internet connection eth-card of the machine
 it is connected with usb and third the gateway and  fifth the net
mask. 

Mikko Silvennoinen


  
The installing was quite succesful, and
easy, if you can find the instructions and can follow them.
The more trickier part is to first back up everything.
Also and especially the bios of Axim. And test if you can restore
everything, if
something goes wrong.
It is not anyhow absolutely necessary with Axim X51v to back up bios.
With some other models it is.
It is safest to anyhow make sure you have a rigth new bios from Dell
company web-site, and
ability to load it, if something goes wrong. There is also some useful
programs that is helpful
to install on Axim, before doing anything dangerous to bios.

I have a laptop with Fedora 6 linux, which I used to do most of this,
and you probably need a Windows machine
to use for backup and installing programs for Axim, before proceeding
and to prepare and to be able to
load Dell factory bios back if something goes wrong, but 
I recommend first everybody try to use the system you are most
familiar with.
If you only have Windows, and need some linux-system fast try:
http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
it is a bootable live-linux cd, that is the best available now. It's
up and running in minutes.
I think, I will change more to Debian in the future, which I have on
some machines.


Instructions: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/x50vHowTo


Once booted the Ångström-image from SD-card, everything else works
reasonably well, but
the trouble is, that when trying to type text with the small virtual
keyboard
on the touch screen, it is often difficult, because, there is
something wrong
with the calibration system or some settings of the touch screen.
I don't yet exactly know what it is, but, somebody said earlier, that,
it could be
something in the kernel. There migth be something in some settings
file, that could be an other reason, but I don't know.
If there is something wrong in the kernel, it must be fixed first.
If it is of some settings file fixing it by editing is possible, but
you would have to know
where to look for.
Then also installing an other windowing system could work. Like I
think, the Google android is
one possible. Someone said earlier he wants to try that. There are
several others that are possible.

I think it depends on, what you want to use your Axim for, that you
can make a sensible choice.
At first the most sensible is, what works at all. Later you could have
even several different SD-cards 
for different systems.
We would have to make a better version of the Ångström-image with the
problem fixed.
Has anyone a bluetooth keyboard that would work with Axim and linux,
that migth be a temporary

work around, so you can use the current image better, to study it and
try to fix it on-line ?

Mikko

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote: 
    
Hi Mikko,

Thanks for your quick reply. How successful were you installing linux on
your x51v ?

what did you need to install it and what problems do u have?

Regards,
Stavros 

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Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:44 +0300

Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
  
      
Greetings all,

Is this effort still alive?

Regards

  
    
        
Some are still trying something.
Although I noticed, that the certificate of the secure-pages on web-site 
is outdated.

If your browser is configured rigth, it should complain about this.
Who is responsible of maintaining the list web-page ?

Has anybody the .config -file of the kernel source-code for Axim 
(ARM-processor kernel),
I have Axim X51v. I am planning to maybe reconfigure it, in hope of 
correcting the
problem of the touch-screen-keyboard and touch screen calibration, (by 
using command: make xconfig) and
changing what want/need, and recompiling from newest source-code.

Mikko Silvennoinen

 

  
      
  

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Re: Still alive?
user name
2008-05-14 16:25:57
2008/5/14 Mikko Silvennoinen <mikkopwar.net>:
> Hey Joe !
>
> Are you sure you have the rigth Ångsrtöm -image ?
> It sounds like it could possibly be the one I am using
for the VGA-display,
> but if you
> have X50, and try to use it, I think it could cause
that kind of problem.
> Make sure you have the one for X50.
> It is easy to make a mistake.

Hi...

Where could I download these image for the X50 (the links in
the HowTo
and posted in this list are broken)???

Thanks.
GonzaloF

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RE: Still alive?
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2008-05-14 17:16:13
for those who need updated link check out the project wiki (linux x50v on google)
i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image is also available
the direct link is : http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
peace

>; Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:25:57 -0500
> From: gfalinuxgmail.com
> To: aximx50-porthandhelds.org
> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>;
> 2008/5/14 Mikko Silvennoinen <mikkopwar.net&gt;:
> > Hey Joe !
> >
> > Are you sure you have the rigth Ångsrtöm -image ?
> > It sounds like it could possibly be the one I am using for the VGA-display,
> > but if you
> > have X50, and try to use it, I think it could cause that kind of problem.
&gt; > Make sure you have the one for X50.
> > It is easy to make a mistake.
&gt;
> Hi...
>
> Where could I download these image for the X50 (the links in the HowTo
> and posted in this list are broken)???
>
> Thanks.
&gt; GonzaloF
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Re: Still alive?
user name
2008-05-14 17:41:02
2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge <doumlabergehotmail.com>:
> for those who need updated link check out the project
wiki (linux x50v on
> google)
> i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image is
also available
> the direct link is : http://pr
ojects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
> peace

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Re: Still alive?
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2008-05-14 20:13:24
Thanks Mikko, I'm working on the 20070316 image for the X50 but, I've compiled my own kernel using the latest from handhelds.org CVS.  Currently 2.6.21-hh20.  I can put together an image for the x50 based on the 200706 image and this compiled kernel.  But before I do that I'd like to make sure it's cool with everyone, I don't want to start dumping a bunch of hacked images out there and making everyone lose faith in the project.

-Joe

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, GonzaloF < gfalinuxgmail.com">gfalinuxgmail.com> wrote:
2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge < doumlabergehotmail.com">doumlabergehotmail.com>:
> for those who need updated link check out the project wiki (linux x50v on
> google)
> i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image is also available
> the direct link is : http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
> peace

In http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/:

Index of /~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50
[ICO]   Name    Last modified   Size    Description
[DIR]   Parent Directory                -
Apache/2.2 Server at projects.linuxtogo.org Port 80

There is no image available for x50!!!  is this updated?

Thanks...

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RE: Still alive?
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2008-05-15 03:07:01
theres a kernel image for x50 here (2006) by Jeroen 'JeDi' Dierckx

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:23:28 +0300
From: mikkopwar.net
To: aximx50-porthandhelds.org
Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?

Hi Joe !

By all means do the image with your kernel, but test it first and let know how well it works.
Remember to name it so that it is clear, that it is for X50 and on what kernel version, and that it is patched test version.
If you also could make a patch-file for the kernel about the patches you possibly made, and a text file explaining for what they are.
(making a patch file: in linux console type diff --help and you see what you can do (compare all files in the
changed source and the original source so, that the output is the differences in a ed script format that will change the original as patched version, I think and name it as whatname.patch. The output format can be attchieved with --ed option, -r option makes it recursively
go thrue all subdirectories. To test the patch file copy the patch-file to the original source directory and in
linux console type: patch -p1 --dry-run < /path/to/kernelsource/whatname.patch
e.g. ; patch -pl --dry-run < /home/joe/hanheldskernel/touchscreenfix1.patch
If there is not reported problems with the dry run it is possible that the patch works.
After actually using it without the --dry-run option if diff says the resulting source is exactly like the one you are trying to create,
it's ok. Does anyone know to recommend any fancier diff options ? or have the whole suitable command line figured out ?

Mikko Silvennoinen

Joe Belford wrote:
mail.gmail.com">Thanks Mikko, I'm working on the 20070316 image for the X50 but, I've compiled my own kernel using the latest from handhelds.org CVS.  Currently 2.6.21-hh20.  I can put together an image for the x50 based on the 200706 image and this compiled kernel.  But before I do that I'd like to make sure it's cool with everyone, I don't want to start dumping a bunch of hacked images out there and making everyone lose faith in the project.

-Joe

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, GonzaloF < gfalinuxgmail.com">gfalinuxgmail.com> wrote:
2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge < doumlabergehotmail.com">doumlabergehotmail.com>:
> for those who need updated link check out the project wiki (linux x50v on
> google)
> i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image is also available
>; the direct link is : http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
> peace

In http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/:

Index of /~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50
[ICO]   Name    Last modified   Size    Description
[DIR]   Parent Directory                -
Apache/2.2 Server at projects.linuxtogo.org Port 80

There is no image available for x50!!!  is this updated?

Thanks...

GonzaloF

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Re: Still alive?
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2008-05-15 03:33:14
Hi,

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Dominic Laberge
<doumlabergehotmail.com> wrote:
> theres a kernel image for x50 here (2006) by Jeroen
'JeDi' Dierckx

I wouldn't use these. They are very old, and don't have the
features
that were added since then (I believe the touchscreen isn't
even
working, because they were busy refactoring that part of the
kernel
code).

I don't have the time to put a lot of effort in this (we are
moving
towards the iphone at work, developing for windows mobile is
becoming
a too much pita), but I am still very interested in this
project.


Some thoughts though:

In my time, we created a method where we would just create
an image
and put that as file on a normal FAT16/32 SD card. We used
an initrd
that had the fat and loop file systems in it, and mounted
the linux
image using the loop device. This is a lot easier to deal
with for
non-linux people, because they don't have to use linux to
partition
the SD card, don't have to understand the linux device file
system
etc.

I know what some guys will think: "If you don't know
these things, you
aren't going to help much with the project", but that
is not true.
There are two parts of developing this port: developing and
testing/hacking. Non-linux, non-programming people can still
help with
the second part, where config files, background images with
incorrect
resolution, ...have to be checked and modified. If we would
provide a
couple of files that they can just copy to their SD card in
windows
and start linux from their device, we would reach a lot
bigger
audience.

Generating the images is a bit of a hassle though, so
actual
development, where you have to recompile stuff and replace a
lot of
files, is probably easier using the normal method. For this,
we used
the usb filesystem (again built into the initrd) and mount
the root
filesystem over usb using NFS. This takes a while to set up,
but once
you got it, you can just develop, compile, and run. No image
creation
of SD card copying involved.

So in short, we should make it easier for non-programmer or
less
technical people to be involved in this project, because it
seems that
a lot of people want to help but don't know how. So there
should be a
list of non-programmer issues that these people can have a
look at,
and an easy (not involving booting to linux, because that
stops a lot
of those people) way to do this.

For the touchscreen though, I think there will be some
programming
involved. I didn't follow this closely enough to know this
for sure,
but it seems that the offset for the touchscreen is not
always the
same, so it isn't just changing some settings or one value.
There's
probably an interpolation algorithm that's wrong in the
touchscreen
code.

I would want to test this stuff in a couple of days, when I
can find
some spare time, so is there an updated webpage somewhere
with the
current features, problems and an explanation how to build
this port
(which kernel sources, what patches, what distribution)?

Greetz,
JeDi



>
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> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:23:28 +0300
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> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>
> Hi Joe !
>
> By all means do the image with your kernel, but test it
first and let know
> how well it works.
> Remember to name it so that it is clear, that it is for
X50 and on what
> kernel version, and that it is patched test version.
> If you also could make a patch-file for the kernel
about the patches you
> possibly made, and a text file explaining for what they
are.
> (making a patch file: in linux console type diff --help
and you see what you
> can do (compare all files in the
> changed source and the original source so, that the
output is the
> differences in a ed script format that will change the
original as patched
> version, I think and name it as whatname.patch. The
output format can be
> attchieved with --ed option, -r option makes it
recursively
> go thrue all subdirectories. To test the patch file
copy the patch-file to
> the original source directory and in
> linux console type: patch -p1 --dry-run <
> /path/to/kernelsource/whatname.patch
> e.g.  patch -pl --dry-run <
/home/joe/hanheldskernel/touchscreenfix1.patch
> If there is not reported problems with the dry run it
is possible that the
> patch works.
> After actually using it without the --dry-run option if
diff says the
> resulting source is exactly like the one you are trying
to create,
> it's ok. Does anyone know to recommend any fancier diff
options ? or have
> the whole suitable command line figured out ?
>
> Mikko Silvennoinen
>
> Joe Belford wrote:
>
> Thanks Mikko, I'm working on the 20070316 image for the
X50 but, I've
> compiled my own kernel using the latest from
handhelds.org CVS.  Currently
> 2.6.21-hh20.  I can put together an image for the x50
based on the 200706
> image and this compiled kernel.  But before I do that
I'd like to make sure
> it's cool with everyone, I don't want to start dumping
a bunch of hacked
> images out there and making everyone lose faith in the
project.
> -Joe
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, GonzaloF
<gfalinuxgmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge <doumlabergehotmail.com>:
>> for those who need updated link check out the
project wiki (linux x50v on
>> google)
>> i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image
is also available
>> the direct link is : http://pr
ojects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
>> peace
>
> In http://blog.gfear.com <-
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Re: Still alive?
user name
2008-05-15 03:43:09
Hey Jeroen!
How's that!? :p

This is the explanation i tried to do in a previous e-mail
xD

I'm also looking forward on getting an iphone, or perhaps
some
HTC,nokia n96, or something with Android... i just can't
decide for
one until they come :p

Well, let's see if at last it's the true effort for putting
linux on
x50/x51(v), in two weeks more or less i'll be less busy, so
i hope i'm
able to spend some time with it 

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Jeroen Dierckx
<jeroen.dierckxgmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Dominic Laberge
> <doumlabergehotmail.com> wrote:
>> theres a kernel image for x50 here (2006) by Jeroen
'JeDi' Dierckx
>
> I wouldn't use these. They are very old, and don't have
the features
> that were added since then (I believe the touchscreen
isn't even
> working, because they were busy refactoring that part
of the kernel
> code).
>
> I don't have the time to put a lot of effort in this
(we are moving
> towards the iphone at work, developing for windows
mobile is becoming
> a too much pita), but I am still very interested in
this project.
>
>
> Some thoughts though:
>
> In my time, we created a method where we would just
create an image
> and put that as file on a normal FAT16/32 SD card. We
used an initrd
> that had the fat and loop file systems in it, and
mounted the linux
> image using the loop device. This is a lot easier to
deal with for
> non-linux people, because they don't have to use linux
to partition
> the SD card, don't have to understand the linux device
file system
> etc.
>
> I know what some guys will think: "If you don't
know these things, you
> aren't going to help much with the project", but
that is not true.
> There are two parts of developing this port: developing
and
> testing/hacking. Non-linux, non-programming people can
still help with
> the second part, where config files, background images
with incorrect
> resolution, ...have to be checked and modified. If we
would provide a
> couple of files that they can just copy to their SD
card in windows
> and start linux from their device, we would reach a lot
bigger
> audience.
>
> Generating the images is a bit of a hassle though, so
actual
> development, where you have to recompile stuff and
replace a lot of
> files, is probably easier using the normal method. For
this, we used
> the usb filesystem (again built into the initrd) and
mount the root
> filesystem over usb using NFS. This takes a while to
set up, but once
> you got it, you can just develop, compile, and run. No
image creation
> of SD card copying involved.
>
> So in short, we should make it easier for
non-programmer or less
> technical people to be involved in this project,
because it seems that
> a lot of people want to help but don't know how. So
there should be a
> list of non-programmer issues that these people can
have a look at,
> and an easy (not involving booting to linux, because
that stops a lot
> of those people) way to do this.
>
> For the touchscreen though, I think there will be some
programming
> involved. I didn't follow this closely enough to know
this for sure,
> but it seems that the offset for the touchscreen is not
always the
> same, so it isn't just changing some settings or one
value. There's
> probably an interpolation algorithm that's wrong in the
touchscreen
> code.
>
> I would want to test this stuff in a couple of days,
when I can find
> some spare time, so is there an updated webpage
somewhere with the
> current features, problems and an explanation how to
build this port
> (which kernel sources, what patches, what
distribution)?
>
> Greetz,
> JeDi
>
>
>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:23:28 +0300
>> From: mikkopwar.net
>> To: aximx50-porthandhelds.org
>> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>>
>> Hi Joe !
>>
>> By all means do the image with your kernel, but
test it first and let know
>> how well it works.
>> Remember to name it so that it is clear, that it is
for X50 and on what
>> kernel version, and that it is patched test
version.
>> If you also could make a patch-file for the kernel
about the patches you
>> possibly made, and a text file explaining for what
they are.
>> (making a patch file: in linux console type diff
--help and you see what you
>> can do (compare all files in the
>> changed source and the original source so, that the
output is the
>> differences in a ed script format that will change
the original as patched
>> version, I think and name it as whatname.patch. The
output format can be
>> attchieved with --ed option, -r option makes it
recursively
>> go thrue all subdirectories. To test the patch file
copy the patch-file to
>> the original source directory and in
>> linux console type: patch -p1 --dry-run <
>> /path/to/kernelsource/whatname.patch
>> e.g.  patch -pl --dry-run <
/home/joe/hanheldskernel/touchscreenfix1.patch
>> If there is not reported problems with the dry run
it is possible that the
>> patch works.
>> After actually using it without the --dry-run
option if diff says the
>> resulting source is exactly like the one you are
trying to create,
>> it's ok. Does anyone know to recommend any fancier
diff options ? or have
>> the whole suitable command line figured out ?
>>
>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>
>> Joe Belford wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mikko, I'm working on the 20070316 image for
the X50 but, I've
>> compiled my own kernel using the latest from
handhelds.org CVS.  Currently
>> 2.6.21-hh20.  I can put together an image for the
x50 based on the 200706
>> image and this compiled kernel.  But before I do
that I'd like to make sure
>> it's cool with everyone, I don't want to start
dumping a bunch of hacked
>> images out there and making everyone lose faith in
the project.
>> -Joe
>>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, GonzaloF
<gfalinuxgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge <doumlabergehotmail.com>:
>>> for those who need updated link check out the
project wiki (linux x50v on
>>> google)
>>> i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50
image is also available
>>> the direct link is : http://pr
ojects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
>>> peace
>>
>> In http://blog.gfear.com <-
gLinuxeando
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