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| Html Formatter ? |
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2007-09-24 15:02:35 |
Just read in the parallel thread 'Interesting plugin(s)...'
of the
ESVInlineMacro, which with a few parameters seems to be able
to draw
bible verses into a TW.
The same with Martin's Formatters - which pull whole
wikipedia sites
into a TW.
Is something similar already possible with simple html
sites?
Just as the Christians with the bible - as a follower of the
Buddha I
would love to be able to pull translated Pali Suttas into a
TW on
mass. But pasting a few thousands one by one isn't really
feasible.
There are sites offering Pali Sutta translations for free
distribution, for example:
ht
tp://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/index.html
Would this be possible? Any suggestions?
W.
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
  Germany |
2007-09-24 15:12:15 |
> The same with Martin's Formatters - which pull whole
wikipedia sites
> into a TW.
Actually, formatters are the utilities to convert wiki
markup to HTML,
so your browser can give you a nice-looking (rendered)
output.
What pulls the data from servers are adaptors.
An HTML formatter is already built-in: Just enclose the
respective HTML
code in <html>...</html> tags and you're good to
go (though you might be
missing external files, like style sheets and scripts).
Automatically pulling content from a regular website is not
quite as
easy, as there's usually no interface for TiddlyWiki to work
with.
You might be better of using something like HTTrack to
create an offline
mirror of the respective website.
HTH.
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
  United States |
2007-09-24 17:59:21 |
> Automatically pulling content from a regular website is
not quite as
> easy, as there's usually no interface for TiddlyWiki to
work with.
exception: there's an RSS feed.
Sometimes you might have luck that content could be easily
extracted
(e.g. if you have content in tables) but most of the time it
will
become quite complex.
If you have a web server with PHP, Perl, Ruby... you should
go that
way and use a script for prefetching the content (and
provide either a
file or a feed to include into TW).
(Of course I expect someone/i.e. Eric could make a plugin,
but I doubt
that size and performance would be worth considering using
it...)
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
  United States |
2007-09-24 23:43:22 |
On 24 Sep., 22:12, FND <Ace_No... gmx.net> wrote:
> ...
> An HTML formatter is already built-in: Just enclose the
respective HTML
> code in <html>...</html> tags and you're
good to go (though you might be
> missing external files, like style sheets and
scripts).
>
> HTH.
>
> -- F.
That would be the really tedious case of copying and pasting
thousands
of small single html pages one by one, I actually wanted to
avoid with
- to correct the wording of my question - an Html adapter.
On 25 Sep., 00:59, schilke <googlegroups.tt.ch... xoxy.net> wrote:
> > Automatically pulling content from a regular
website is not quite as
> > easy, as there's usually no interface for
TiddlyWiki to work with.
>
> exception: there's an RSS feed.
>
(blush..) RSS feed is one of the abbreviations I actually
haven't
deciphered yet.
But on the above mentioned side I read under > 'Subscribe
to ... with
an RSS feed': 'you will be alerted whenever I update the
What's New
page. Once alerted, you can get the full story either by
following a
link from the newsreader itself or by visiting the What's
New page.'<
As I understand that statement, I only could pull in
announcements -
but not the content I'm after?
> Sometimes you might have luck that content could be
easily extracted
> (e.g. if you have content in tables) but most of the
time it will
> become quite complex.
> If you have a web server with PHP, Perl, Ruby... you
should go that
> way and use a script for prefetching the content (and
provide either a
> file or a feed to include into TW).
> ...
> schilke
(???...)
> Automatically pulling content from a regular website is
not quite as
> easy, as there's usually no interface for TiddlyWiki to
work with.
> You might be better of using something like HTTrack to
create an offline
> mirror of the respective website.
Actually one could download that whole accesstoinsight.org
site as a
14 MB zipped file. But without the advantage to have it
searchable, a
single file to take with - and being able to easily combine
it with
other sites who provide freely distributed Sutta
translations not
covered.
Probably the easiest way to go would be a batch file
processing editor
- who would stripe all the thousands small html files of
unnecessary
html overhead and save them as txt files. Then adding them
with
something like FileDropPlugin.
Does anyone know of such an editor, also not too complicated
to
handle?
(actually, if I were already able to follow the Buddha's
advise, I
would just let go of TiddlyWiki - as it seems to become a
multiplication of proliferating wants ... gone are the olden
days with
the spare time, where one just memorized these Suttas ..)
Regards,
W.
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
  United States |
2007-09-25 08:08:15 |
> (blush..) RSS feed is one of the abbreviations I
actually haven't
> deciphered yet.
In English: "From Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia"
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/RSS
or in German: "Internet-Nachrichtenformat RSS"
http://de.wikipedia.
org/wiki/RSS
> Once alerted, you can get the full story either by
following a
> link from the newsreader itself or by visiting the
What's New page.'
>
> As I understand that statement, I only could pull in
announcements -
> but not the content I'm after?
You could simply access the feed directly by klicking on the
link. In
Firefox (> 1.5 I think) you could see at least what
content will be
delivered. If you want to check out if reading feeds might
be a good
idea anyway - I would suggest e.g. to open a "Google
Reader" account
http://www.google.com/r
eader/
> Actually one could download that whole
accesstoinsight.org site as a
> 14 MB zipped file
you at least could go this direction
> a batch file processing editor - who would stripe all
the thousands
> small html files of unnecessary html overhead
But for the output there are probably better solutions than
> something like FileDropPlugin
I would give Eric's "QuoteOfTheDayPlugin" a try:
http:
//www.tiddlytools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin
> Does anyone know of such an editor, also not too
complicated to
> handle?
If you don't have something you're used to - you might check
out
"NOTEPAD++"
http://notepad-p
lus.sourceforge.net/
Has a lot of useful features by default or by using
plugins.
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
  United States |
2007-09-26 11:46:01 |
> > Does anyone know of such an editor, also not too
complicated to
> > handle?
>
> If you don't have something you're used to - you might
check out
> "NOTEPAD++"http://notepad-p
lus.sourceforge.net/
> Has a lot of useful features by default or by using
plugins.
>
> --
> schilke
Wow, haven't seen a TW this way!
Though I will need some time to grasp how to use a bit of
its
potential - guess with this editor it indeed will be easy to
record a
macro and have my thousand html Suttas batch processed - and
just
dropped into a TW.
Great, many thanks for this tip,
W.
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
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2007-09-27 06:48:35 |
>
> Wow, haven't seen a TW this way!
>
What did you like so much?
J.
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
  United States |
2007-09-30 14:04:41 |
Hi Jay,
What is really novel with notepad++ for me is, that in this
editor all
the different areas of a TW code are foldable - just as with
nested
sliders. In this way one can for example see all the
meta-data of each
tiddler line by line. Taken together with the zoom function
- and
navigating around the code has never been easier with any
editor I
knew. And it doesn't break it.
Regards,
W.
On 27 Sep., 13:48, "JayFresh - http://jayfresh.w
ordpress.com"
<jonny.jonat... googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Wow, haven't seen a TW this way!
>
> What did you like so much?
>
> J.
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
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2007-10-02 12:32:24 |
It's really something how good editors can ease the work
with the bare
TW store area. Therefore I would like to know:
Which other editors developers of TiddlyWiki are using?
Anyone willing to share?
W.
On 30 Sep., 21:04, wolfgang <wolfgangl... gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jay,
>
> What is really novel with notepad++ for me is, that in
this editor all
> the different areas of a TW code are foldable - just as
with nested
> sliders. In this way one can for example see all the
meta-data of each
> tiddler line by line. Taken together with the zoom
function - and
> navigating around the code has never been easier with
any editor I
> knew. And it doesn't break it.
>
> Regards,
>
> W.
>
> On 27 Sep., 13:48, "JayFresh -http://jayfresh.w
ordpress.com"
>
> <jonny.jonat... googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > Wow, haven't seen a TW this way!
>
> > What did you like so much?
>
> > J.
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| Re: Html Formatter ? |
  Germany |
2007-10-04 12:12:10 |
> Which other editors developers of TiddlyWiki are
using?
Eclipse / Aptana, SciTE, Notepad++, MS Paint
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