Vista, FF - can't save!

Can't save on Vista / FF (3.0b2)! Have now tried all the
system
settings (activX, java script actived/allowed), set the
security level
low, and the tw file has all rights to write.

No matter if I use the newest version or one of my older tw.
- The
script starts but can't save after editing.

Can anyone help plz?
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>The script starts but can't save after editing.

I'm not using Vista, s
What's the exact error message? Where is your TiddlyWiki
file located - 
on a regular HDD drive, I assume?


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> Can't save on Vista / FF (3.0b2)! ...

Have you tried FF2.x instead of the FF 3.0 beta?  If the
low-level
file I/O functions changed in FF3, then TW's file saving
might be
returning a spurious error code, resulting in the kind of
message you
are, presumably, seeing.

BTW, when asking a question about a specific problem, it
would be
useful if you included some specific details, such as the
*exact*
error message and step-by-step actions to reliably reproduce
the
problem.  Also, when possible, you should post a copy of
your errant
document online and provide a URL (www.TiddlySpot.com is
good for this
purpose), so that people can actually experiment and
sometimes even
directly debug the problem for you!

HTH,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios


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ok, I reinstalled FF 2.x.
1. Downloaded empty fresh tw (www.tiddlywiki.com) on Desktop
(HDD)
2. Edited 1 tiddler.
3. Save
4. Then the message came: A script is damaged or doesn't
respond.
5. clicked on continue
6. Error: Failed to save main TW... Your changes have not
been saved.

On the error console were 2 lines marked (see link with
screenshots:
http://picasawe
b.google.ch/papamuk/Tw), but as a non-programmer I
don't get what it means.

Further I copy n pasted what was in the java console:
Java Plug-in 1.6.0_03
Verwendung der JRE-Version 1.6.0_03 Java HotSpot(TM) Client
VM
Home-Verzeichnis des Benutzers = C:Usersmuk

----------------------------------------------------

java.security.PrivilegedActionException:
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
Method)
	at sun.plugin.liveconnect.SecureInvocation$1.run(Unknown
Source)
	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
Method)
	at
sun.plugin.liveconnect.SecureInvocation.ConstructObject(Unkn
own
Source)
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
	at
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Nativ
e
Method)
	at
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknow
n
Source)
	at
sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Un
known
Source)
	at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Unknown
Source)
	at
sun.plugin.liveconnect.PrivilegedConstructObjectAction.run(U
nknown
Source)
	... 4 more
Caused by: java.security.AccessControlException: access
denied
(java.io.FilePermission C:UsersmukDesktopempty.html
write)
	at
java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(Unknown
Source)
	at java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(Unknown
Source)
	at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(Unknown
Source)
	at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkWrite(Unknown Source)
	at java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(Unknown Source)
	... 9 more


I see now that to my tw-file access was denied, but I
couldn't find
out how to allow access (at system control --> java
--> security).

What further info's would help?

Thank you so much for helping.

- Btw: That's one of the moments I seriously think of moving
back to
XP.....

On 30 Dez., 10:33, Eric Shulman <elsdes...gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can't save on Vista / FF (3.0b2)! ...
>
> Have you tried FF2.x instead of the FF 3.0 beta?  If
the low-level
> file I/O functions changed in FF3, then TW's file
saving might be
> returning a spurious error code, resulting in the kind
of message you
> are, presumably, seeing.
>
> BTW, when asking a question about a specific problem,
it would be
> useful if you included some specific details, such as
the *exact*
> error message and step-by-step actions to reliably
reproduce the
> problem.  Also, when possible, you should post a copy
of your errant
> document online and provide a URL (www.TiddlySpot.comis
good for this
> purpose), so that people can actually experiment and
sometimes even
> directly debug the problem for you!
>
> HTH,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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> Further I copy n pasted what was in the java console:
> java.security.PrivilegedActionException:
...
>         at
java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(Unknown Source)
>         ... 9 more
>
> I see now that to my tw-file access was denied, but I
couldn't find
> out how to allow access (at system control --> java
--> security).

hmmm.... that sounds like perhaps an error in mozSaveFile()
is causing
a "fail through", and is using javaSaveFile() as a
fallback.  This is
what happens normally when using Safari or another
non-IE/non-FF
browser that doesn't support direct javascript file i/o).

I don't know if this will work under Vista with FireFox, but
give this
a try:

Install JavaSaver.jar file in the same folder as your
document (see
www.TiddlyWiki.com for a link to the .jar file), and then
define/
modify the .java.policy file on your system to give
explicit
permission to your local TiddlyWiki folder.  Note: you might
have to
restart FireFox for the policy change to take effect.

HTH,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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> that sounds like perhaps an error in mozSaveFile() is
causing
> a "fail through"

I can't find any obvious errors in mozillaSaveFile() - if
that means the 
file I/O is different in Firefox 3, we might have a problem
on our hands...

But then, Firefox 3 is still in beta, so things might be a
wonky there.


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> I can't find any obvious errors in mozillaSaveFile() -
if that means the
> file I/O is different in Firefox 3, we might have a
problem on our hands...
>
> But then, Firefox 3 is still in beta, so things might
be a wonky there.

except: muk reports the problem occurs in FF2.x as well, so
perhaps it
is a Vista configuration issue?

Even so, if he can get JavaSaver.jar to work under Vista,
then that
might be a better solution, since it offers superior
granularity for
configurating local file I/O permissions (down to the
individual
folder and file), as opposed to FireFox's "everything
running in FILE://
wants permission" approach.

-e

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> except: muk reports the problem occurs in FF2.x as
well, so perhaps it
> is a Vista configuration issue?

Oh right, I had overlooked that.

> Even so, if he can get JavaSaver.jar to work under
Vista, then that
> might be a better solution

Maybe so - but for regular users, having to use TiddlySaver
is not 
nearly as comfortable as the usual routine (especially
because it 
requires modifying the .java.policy file).


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ok - that was frustrating. Couldn't manage to get it working
with FF
2.x, since my rather weak knowledge about java-configuration
and the
always denying security warnings on vista.... BUT I found a
temporary
way for myself thats seems to work:
I use now the browser K-Meleon just for Tiddlywiki &
it's all fine
with that by now.

Strange, thought it more or less the same engine as in FF?

Eric/F- ; let me know if there's anything I can do to help U
solve
that, since I'd be glad to switch to FF again.

muk

On 30 Dez., 19:36, Eric Shulman <elsdes...gmail.com> wrote:
> > I can't find any obvious errors in
mozillaSaveFile() - if that means the
> > file I/O is different in Firefox 3, we might have
a problem on our hands...
>
> > But then, Firefox 3 is still in beta, so things
might be a wonky there.
>
> except: muk reports the problem occurs in FF2.x as
well, so perhaps it
> is a Vista configuration issue?
>
> Even so, if he can get JavaSaver.jar to work under
Vista, then that
> might be a better solution, since it offers superior
granularity for
> configurating local file I/O permissions (down to the
individual
> folder and file), as opposed to FireFox's
"everything running in FILE://
> wants permission" approach.
>
> -e
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> I use now the browser K-Meleon just for Tiddlywiki
& it's all fine
> with that by now.
> Strange, thought it more or less the same engine as in
FF?

Is K-Meleon using the same engine as FF3 or FF2?

-e

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> After a while I found out that the problem was related
to HP-Security
> software that was preinstalled on my new HP6710. After
installing
> everything seems to work fine.

Thanks for letting us know!


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