Ticket #6139

Anyone object to deleting this ticket and continuing on with
life? I'm
sure we all have better things to do and Ilias clearly
hasn't changed
his ways. In the interests of sparing the moderation queue
from his
vitriol maybe we should just outright ban him.

--Noah

> Anyone object to deleting this ticket and continuing on
with life?
Sure not.

> I'm sure we all have better things to do and Ilias
clearly hasn't changed
> his ways.
This ticket has somewhat been useful to find out if he has.

Cheers,
Manu

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Emmanuel Blot wrote:
>> Anyone object to deleting this ticket and
continuing on with life?
>>     
> Sure not.
>
>   
>> I'm sure we all have better things to do and Ilias
clearly hasn't changed
>> his ways.
>>     
> This ticket has somewhat been useful to find out if he
has.
>
>   
I wouldn't mind just saying anything written by him
(tickets, comment,
wiki changes) will be reverted/deleted on sight. Even if
the
contributions are remotely useful I'm sure there is someone
else that
can make them.

--Noah

I am just curious, and arguably not fully educated on this
topic, but  
I am curious...  I have read the ticket and a couple of his
posts;  
what was the exact offense?  Minus the ticket comments, I
can't say I  
see how the punishment fits the crime.  The references
posted seemed  
more to be critiques than insults.

Additionally, I am fully aware I have no say anyhow!  Just
be patient.

Thanks!

Joshua Preston
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Noah Kantrowitz <kantrnrpi.edu> wrote:

> Emmanuel Blot wrote:
>>> Anyone object to deleting this ticket and
continuing on with life?
>>>
>> Sure not.
>>
>>
>>> I'm sure we all have better things to do and
Ilias clearly hasn't  
>>> changed
>>> his ways.
>>>
>> This ticket has somewhat been useful to find out if
he has.
>>
>>
> I wouldn't mind just saying anything written by him
(tickets, comment,
> wiki changes) will be reverted/deleted on sight. Even
if the
> contributions are remotely useful I'm sure there is
someone else that
> can make them.
>
> --Noah
>

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-On [20071007 06:23], Joshua Preston (joshua.prestontfcci.com) wrote:
>I am just curious, and arguably not fully educated on
this topic, but  
>I am curious...  I have read the ticket and a couple of
his posts;  
>what was the exact offense?  Minus the ticket comments,
I can't say I  
>see how the punishment fits the crime.  The references
posted seemed  
>more to be critiques than insults.

The entire problem is that the discussions drag on and on
and on without
proper focus (and dragging lots of non-relevant stuff into
it) and with Ilias'
ideas and view of the world being the only right one in the
end.

At least, that has always been my interpretation after
watching him unleash
his 'expertise' on various mailinglists and groups I'm on
(yes, this was not
his first list he offered his 'services').

Noah, considering how he asked (an)other project(s) to
revert the changes he
had sent in, I think his contributions are potentially
dangerous to be
included, so from that point of view I'd say: get rid of the
contributed code
at least. If the ticket is remotely helpful, just clean it
up and make sure
he's off the to:/cc: list.

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
<asmodai(-at-)in-nomine.org> / asmodai
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The mediocre teacher tells, the good teacher explains, the
superior
teacher demonstrates, the great teacher inspires...

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On 10/7/07, Noah Kantrowitz <kantrnrpi.edu> wrote:
> Anyone object to deleting this ticket and continuing on
with life?

I'd rather encourage it than object to it.

Cheers,

Manuzhai

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Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven kirjoitti:
> -On [20071007 06:23], Joshua Preston
(joshua.prestontfcci.com) wrote:
>> I am just curious, and arguably not fully educated
on this topic, but  
>> I am curious...  I have read the ticket and a
couple of his posts;  
>> what was the exact offense?  Minus the ticket
comments, I can't say I  
>> see how the punishment fits the crime.  The
references posted seemed  
>> more to be critiques than insults.
> 
> The entire problem is that the discussions drag on and
on and on without
> proper focus (and dragging lots of non-relevant stuff
into it) and with Ilias'
> ideas and view of the world being the only right one in
the end.
> 
> At least, that has always been my interpretation after
watching him unleash
> his 'expertise' on various mailinglists and groups I'm
on (yes, this was not
> his first list he offered his 'services').
> 
> Noah, considering how he asked (an)other project(s) to
revert the changes he
> had sent in, I think his contributions are potentially
dangerous to be
> included, so from that point of view I'd say: get rid
of the contributed code
> at least. If the ticket is remotely helpful, just clean
it up and make sure
> he's off the to:/cc: list.

I think this gives nice answer:


http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Ilias

So Trac is not first one to be hit by Ilias.... Just don't
let it drag 
attention nor resources and problem goes away.

-- 

Jani Tiainen

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Hi,

Well, I object to valuable content being deleted
irremediably...
I've just read on trac-tickets a comment by osimons, which
was very
worth reading ... but that ticket #6141 is now gone. A bit
disappointing.

So if we "sanitize" Ilias content, at least we
should do it in a
sensible way, and not remove valuable content written by
others at the
same time.

-- Christian


On Oct 8, 7:26 am, Noah Kantrowitz <kan...rpi.edu> wrote:
> Unless someone says otherwise I am going to just
sanitize his
> "contributions" then.
>
> --Noah
>


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