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Hi all,
Whenever I adjust my Typo settings, post a new entry, or
post a  
comment, it takes Typo about 1 minute to load, the next time
I load a  
page. Then after that first time, it works fine until the
next time  
something is adjusted. Does anyone know what might be wrong
here?

Thanks in advance.
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On 05/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Whenever I adjust my Typo settings, post a new entry,
or post a
> comment, it takes Typo about 1 minute to load, the next
time I load a
> page. Then after that first time, it works fine until
the next time
> something is adjusted. Does anyone know what might be
wrong here?

What version of typo are you using?

Tangentially, it would be really handy if we had an
/admin/about_this_typo link somewhere which would give us a
nice
potted description of the typo installation and its
environment.

I suppose once we have that, it's but a small step to an
admin/report_issue page.

Patches welcome.
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On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:18 AM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> On 05/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Whenever I adjust my Typo settings, post a new
entry, or post a
>> comment, it takes Typo about 1 minute to load, the
next time I load a
>> page. Then after that first time, it works fine
until the next time
>> something is adjusted. Does anyone know what might
be wrong here?
>
> What version of typo are you using?
>
Sorry, forgot to mention that: I'm using Typo 4.1.1.
> Tangentially, it would be really handy if we had an
> /admin/about_this_typo link somewhere which would give
us a nice
> potted description of the typo installation and its
environment.

How would I go about doing that? Does Typo have a page that
shows all  
the installation info, or should I make it myself? Sorry,
I'm new to  
Typo, so I don't know the ins and outs.

(Also: I changed the title of this thread because I forgot
to add one  
before. Sorry.)

> I suppose once we have that, it's but a small step to
an
> admin/report_issue page.
>
> Patches welcome.
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On 06/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:18 AM, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
> > On 05/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> Whenever I adjust my Typo settings, post a new
entry, or post a
> >> comment, it takes Typo about 1 minute to load,
the next time I load a
> >> page. Then after that first time, it works
fine until the next time
> >> something is adjusted. Does anyone know what
might be wrong here?
> >
> > What version of typo are you using?
> >
> Sorry, forgot to mention that: I'm using Typo 4.1.1.

One minute's pretty extreme to render a page - do you know
what kind
of load the system is under? (There have been cases when the
system
takes a long time to respond to a change because it's taking
a long
time to flush the cache - and cache flushing is on mental
'to be
fixed' list, but it doesn't usually take so long to render a
page...
What sidebars are you using? Are many of them based on RSS
feeds?

> > Tangentially, it would be really handy if we had
an
> > /admin/about_this_typo link somewhere which would
give us a nice
> > potted description of the typo installation and
its environment.
>
> How would I go about doing that? Does Typo have a page
that shows all
> the installation info, or should I make it myself?
Sorry, I'm new to
> Typo, so I don't know the ins and outs.

Ah, that was aimed more at the list in general than you in
particular.
Typo doesn't have a page that shows all the installation
info, and I'm
not quite sure what info really needs to go there...
probably
something along the lines of Ruby version, RAILS_ENV,
Caching state,
operating system, database, schema version, typo version
and/or SVN
revision, list of plugins installed, a pretty printed
representation
of blog.settings, List of sidebars. (All this needs to have
any
passwords obscured, of course...)
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Hi,

On 7 Jun 2007, at 10:32, Piers Cawley wrote:
> One minute's pretty extreme to render a page - do you
know what kind
> of load the system is under? (There have been cases
when the system
> takes a long time to respond to a change because it's
taking a long
> time to flush the cache - and cache flushing is on
mental 'to be
> fixed' list, but it doesn't usually take so long to
render a page...
> What sidebars are you using? Are many of them based on
RSS feeds?

I'm not sure if this is related but since 4.1 I have noticed
similar  
behaviour. I have three static sidebar entries and I have
had cause  
to change them occasionally. I have noticed that the first
time I  
make a change it is quick as you like, but if I make a
second change  
without reloading the page then the progress indicator keeps
 
spinning. However, if I reload the page between changes then
it is  
fine. The sidebars I have enabled are:

Static x3
Tags
Categories
Archives
XML Syndication

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I don't think that's related, but I also have exactly the
same problem.


On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:44 AM, Toby Bryans wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 7 Jun 2007, at 10:32, Piers Cawley wrote:
>> One minute's pretty extreme to render a page - do
you know what kind
>> of load the system is under? (There have been cases
when the system
>> takes a long time to respond to a change because
it's taking a long
>> time to flush the cache - and cache flushing is on
mental 'to be
>> fixed' list, but it doesn't usually take so long to
render a page...
>> What sidebars are you using? Are many of them based
on RSS feeds?
>
> I'm not sure if this is related but since 4.1 I have
noticed similar
> behaviour. I have three static sidebar entries and I
have had cause
> to change them occasionally. I have noticed that the
first time I
> make a change it is quick as you like, but if I make a
second change
> without reloading the page then the progress indicator
keeps
> spinning. However, if I reload the page between changes
then it is
> fine. The sidebars I have enabled are:
>
> Static x3
> Tags
> Categories
> Archives
> XML Syndication
>
> -- 
> Toby
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I don't think that's related, but I also have exactly the
same problem.


On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:44 AM, Toby Bryans wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 7 Jun 2007, at 10:32, Piers Cawley wrote:
>> One minute's pretty extreme to render a page - do
you know what kind
>> of load the system is under? (There have been cases
when the system
>> takes a long time to respond to a change because
it's taking a long
>> time to flush the cache - and cache flushing is on
mental 'to be
>> fixed' list, but it doesn't usually take so long to
render a page...
>> What sidebars are you using? Are many of them based
on RSS feeds?
>
> I'm not sure if this is related but since 4.1 I have
noticed similar
> behaviour. I have three static sidebar entries and I
have had cause
> to change them occasionally. I have noticed that the
first time I
> make a change it is quick as you like, but if I make a
second change
> without reloading the page then the progress indicator
keeps
> spinning. However, if I reload the page between changes
then it is
> fine. The sidebars I have enabled are:
>
> Static x3
> Tags
> Categories
> Archives
> XML Syndication
>
> -- 
> Toby
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On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:32 AM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> On 06/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:18 AM, Piers Cawley wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Whenever I adjust my Typo settings, post a
new entry, or post a
>>>> comment, it takes Typo about 1 minute to
load, the next time I  
>>>> load a
>>>> page. Then after that first time, it works
fine until the next time
>>>> something is adjusted. Does anyone know
what might be wrong here?
>>>
>>> What version of typo are you using?
>>>
>> Sorry, forgot to mention that: I'm using Typo
4.1.1.
>
> One minute's pretty extreme to render a page - do you
know what kind
> of load the system is under? (There have been cases
when the system
> takes a long time to respond to a change because it's
taking a long
> time to flush the cache - and cache flushing is on
mental 'to be
> fixed' list, but it doesn't usually take so long to
render a page...
> What sidebars are you using? Are many of them based on
RSS feeds?
>
Sorry, now that I actually time it, it's not 1 minute...
It's about  
25 seconds. Time passes slowly when you're waiting.  But still,
25  
seconds seems like a long time.
I'm running it on an old 400MHz G3 iMac (which is dedicated
to  
serving Typo, so it's not doing anything else
processor-intensive).  
When Typo is taking a long time to load, the processor usage
goes up  
to about 40-70%... Is this supposed to happen?

>>> Tangentially, it would be really handy if we
had an
>>> /admin/about_this_typo link somewhere which
would give us a nice
>>> potted description of the typo installation and
its environment.
>>
>> How would I go about doing that? Does Typo have a
page that shows all
>> the installation info, or should I make it myself?
Sorry, I'm new to
>> Typo, so I don't know the ins and outs.
>
> Ah, that was aimed more at the list in general than you
in particular.
> Typo doesn't have a page that shows all the
installation info, and I'm
> not quite sure what info really needs to go there...
probably
> something along the lines of Ruby version, RAILS_ENV,
Caching state,
> operating system, database, schema version, typo
version and/or SVN
> revision, list of plugins installed, a pretty printed
representation
> of blog.settings, List of sidebars. (All this needs to
have any
> passwords obscured, of course...)

Ah, OK.

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> I'm running it on an old 400MHz G3 iMac

That is a very slow machine to run a Rails stack on and is
probably
one of the reasons for the poor performance.

On 6/7/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:32 AM, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
> > On 06/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:18 AM, Piers Cawley
wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 05/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>> Whenever I adjust my Typo settings,
post a new entry, or post a
> >>>> comment, it takes Typo about 1 minute
to load, the next time I
> >>>> load a
> >>>> page. Then after that first time, it
works fine until the next time
> >>>> something is adjusted. Does anyone
know what might be wrong here?
> >>>
> >>> What version of typo are you using?
> >>>
> >> Sorry, forgot to mention that: I'm using Typo
4.1.1.
> >
> > One minute's pretty extreme to render a page - do
you know what kind
> > of load the system is under? (There have been
cases when the system
> > takes a long time to respond to a change because
it's taking a long
> > time to flush the cache - and cache flushing is on
mental 'to be
> > fixed' list, but it doesn't usually take so long
to render a page...
> > What sidebars are you using? Are many of them
based on RSS feeds?
> >
> Sorry, now that I actually time it, it's not 1
minute... It's about
> 25 seconds. Time passes slowly when you're waiting.
 But
still, 25
> seconds seems like a long time.
> I'm running it on an old 400MHz G3 iMac (which is
dedicated to
> serving Typo, so it's not doing anything else
processor-intensive).
> When Typo is taking a long time to load, the processor
usage goes up
> to about 40-70%... Is this supposed to happen?
>
> >>> Tangentially, it would be really handy if
we had an
> >>> /admin/about_this_typo link somewhere
which would give us a nice
> >>> potted description of the typo
installation and its environment.
> >>
> >> How would I go about doing that? Does Typo
have a page that shows all
> >> the installation info, or should I make it
myself? Sorry, I'm new to
> >> Typo, so I don't know the ins and outs.
> >
> > Ah, that was aimed more at the list in general
than you in particular.
> > Typo doesn't have a page that shows all the
installation info, and I'm
> > not quite sure what info really needs to go
there... probably
> > something along the lines of Ruby version,
RAILS_ENV, Caching state,
> > operating system, database, schema version, typo
version and/or SVN
> > revision, list of plugins installed, a pretty
printed representation
> > of blog.settings, List of sidebars. (All this
needs to have any
> > passwords obscured, of course...)
>
> Ah, OK.
>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Typo-listrubyforge.org
> > http:
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>
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On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:32 AM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> On 06/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:18 AM, Piers Cawley wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/06/07, Eamon Ford <eamonfordmac.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Whenever I adjust my Typo settings, post a
new entry, or post a
>>>> comment, it takes Typo about 1 minute to
load, the next time I  
>>>> load a
>>>> page. Then after that first time, it works
fine until the next time
>>>> something is adjusted. Does anyone know
what might be wrong here?
>>>
>>> What version of typo are you using?
>>>
>> Sorry, forgot to mention that: I'm using Typo
4.1.1.
>
> One minute's pretty extreme to render a page - do you
know what kind
> of load the system is under? (There have been cases
when the system
> takes a long time to respond to a change because it's
taking a long
> time to flush the cache - and cache flushing is on
mental 'to be
> fixed' list, but it doesn't usually take so long to
render a page...
> What sidebars are you using? Are many of them based on
RSS feeds?

Oops, forgot to mention: the only sidebars I'm using are
Static,  
Tags, Categories, Archives, and Syndicate. But I am using
the  
<typo:flickr> macro in several instances, if that has
any significance.

>
>>> Tangentially, it would be really handy if we
had an
>>> /admin/about_this_typo link somewhere which
would give us a nice
>>> potted description of the typo installation and
its environment.
>>
>> How would I go about doing that? Does Typo have a
page that shows all
>> the installation info, or should I make it myself?
Sorry, I'm new to
>> Typo, so I don't know the ins and outs.
>
> Ah, that was aimed more at the list in general than you
in particular.
> Typo doesn't have a page that shows all the
installation info, and I'm
> not quite sure what info really needs to go there...
probably
> something along the lines of Ruby version, RAILS_ENV,
Caching state,
> operating system, database, schema version, typo
version and/or SVN
> revision, list of plugins installed, a pretty printed
representation
> of blog.settings, List of sidebars. (All this needs to
have any
> passwords obscured, of course...)
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-listrubyforge.org
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//rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

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