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| Guadec Planning Meeting Notes - 20th
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2007-01-30 18:24:19 |
Below are my notes from the Guadec planning meeting that
took place on
the 20th January. Please feel free to comment on any of the
points made.
-Thomas
Guadec Planning Meeting Notes
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20th January 2007
Attendance
Paul Cooper
Bastien Nocera
Thomas Wood
Budget
* Board has requested some form of budget
* Would be difficult to produce a detailed budget
* It would be useful to produce a list of things that
we know we
need to spend money on and have a rough idea of how
much it might
cost
Catering
* Do we include lunch with registration if possible?
* Venue has set caterers, and is not flexible on this.
We need to
know what they provide and if it is suitable.
* Another possibility would be to ask a nearby hotel
if they could
do any catering at a reasonable cost
* Packed lunch style catering may be another option if
we run out
of other options.
* Lunch might only be provided during core days to
keep costs down,
and to allow more flexibility. There are plenty of
eating places
nearby ranging from cheap fast-food to supermarkets
to more
expensive eateries.
* Lunch will be an hour and a half which should allow
plenty of
time for impromptu meetings and discussions.
Accommodation
* Still waiting to hear from Aston about
availabilities
* Difficult to live up to 2006 "village"
style accommodation
* Most cheap places are out-of-town, and would require
transport to
get to the venue
* Possibility of organising bus or train passes since
public
transport is relatively good
* Booking out a youth hostel may be a last resort, but
there were
concerns about security.
Sundries
* Long discussion about what gifts/souvenirs we wanted
to give out
* It was generally agreed that conferences tend to
always give out
lots of literature that is not often useful or read.
We would
like to keep this to a minimum if possible to save
the
environment.
* It would be nice if sponsors had leaflets at stands
so that people
could pick them up if interested.
* Gnome branded laptop stickers was one idea of
something novel and
interesting people may appreciate
* Branded USB drives were another idea
o These could be pre-loaded with sponsor
literature, including
"interactive and multimedia" content.
May be more effective
than paper literature if done well.
o Possibility of a small "website"
pre-loaded to introduce the
conference and include other information.
Possibility of
this being created as a community project.
o Include many other things, such as videos and
demos. Perhaps
even include some good videos from previous
conferences.
o Wacky idea about including a vmware image of
GNOME 1.0 to
remind ourself how far we've come
o Could use credit-card sized cdrws if usb drives
are too
expensive?
* Possibility of using Spreadshirt to print t-shirts.
* Shirt design could be a community project.
* Only include one t-shirt this year? Lots of people
were giving out
t-shirts last year, so their value and novelty is
probably less,
especially for anyone who regularly attends
conferences.
* Possibility of polo shirts for helpers?
* Look at last years budget for some idea of how much
to spend on
attendee packs
* Flyers/Banners
o Talk to Conservatoire about having banners
attached to the
building
o Possibility of back drop banners in the main
rooms
Website
* Front page needs to be organised
* Minimal approach may help prevent usability problems
from last
year with regards to finding information
* Replace or remove GUADEC 2006 tab
* Look at Oscon website for ideas of what information
to present
(their conference is around the same time as ours)
* Call for papers system needs to be made ready for
2007
* Information needed (or linked to) from front page:
o About Guadec
o Link to last year
o News
o Schedule (when available)
o Keynotes
o Local Information
* Use Sponsor Brochure for content
* Mirror entire website somewhere accessible for
development?
Call for Papers
* Need to make sure there is a clear copyright message
and terms and
conditions message when people submit papers
* Video agreement also needs to be at the submit stage
* Box for comments if don't agree to the license (e.g.
someone may
want to add a non-commercial clause)
* Setting up the papers committee
o One person will chair and also decide
acceptance rules.
o Ross Burton was mentioned as a possible
candidate for this
role, and Bastien will contact him. Advantages
are that he
is relatively local and well known in the
community, as well
as being very aware of the current topics of
interest.
o Michael Meeks was also mentioned as he has
previous
experience in this role and would be very able
to assist the
chair.
o Davyd Madely has also expressed an interest in
being part of
the committee, and it would be good to have him
involved.
* Need to be aware of the possibility for half
hour/whole hour
papers.
* Deadlines
o Need to factor in Gnome release dates for when
people will
be too busy to work on a paper submission.
o End of February or mid March may be a
possibility for the
end of the call for papers
o Ideally would have final list of papers by the
end of March.
Sponsorship and Money
* The lack of an agreed place for sponsors to send
money is holding
up progress
* Bastien will ask a bank to find out what is the best
option for
us.
* Paul to find out if there are any other options
* We need to find an accountant to manage the account
* Appointed treasurer will authorise expenses
o General rules would be that items less than
£100 would be
bought and expenses claimed back.
o Anything more than £100 would need to be
invoiced.
Keynotes
* Invitations have been sent, and four have already
accepted
Visas
* Paul will deal with any requests that are needed
* Add a link on the website to British embassy so
people can find
out what they need to do
Advertising
* Get in contact with magazines, and ask that they
mention Guadec in
any GNOME 2.18 articles
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes -
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2007-01-30 19:46:00 |
Hey,
Thomas Wood wrote:
> Catering
>
> * Do we include lunch with registration if
possible?
> * Venue has set caterers, and is not flexible on
this. We need to
> know what they provide and if it is suitable.
> * Another possibility would be to ask a nearby
hotel if they could
> do any catering at a reasonable cost
> * Packed lunch style catering may be another
option if we run out
> of other options.
> * Lunch might only be provided during core days
to keep costs down,
> and to allow more flexibility. There are plenty
of eating places
> nearby ranging from cheap fast-food to
supermarkets to more
> expensive eateries.
> * Lunch will be an hour and a half which should
allow plenty of
> time for impromptu meetings and discussions.
In previous years we've had trouble with catering, mostly
because everyone likes
to eat different foods (or have different religious
backgrounds). Having options
close to or at the conference venue is awesome, but might
not be the best bet to
include it as part of registration or as an official
contract that we'd enter in
IMO.
> Accommodation
>
> * Still waiting to hear from Aston about
availabilities
> * Difficult to live up to 2006 "village"
style accommodation
> * Most cheap places are out-of-town, and would
require transport to
> get to the venue
> * Possibility of organising bus or train passes
since public
> transport is relatively good
> * Booking out a youth hostel may be a last resort,
but there were
> concerns about security.
Providing a list of accommodation options would be awesome
enough - there may
never be another GNOME Village like last year, we're dealing
with a completely
different location and environment and everyone will
understand that.
> * Branded USB drives were another idea
> o These could be pre-loaded with sponsor
literature, including
> "interactive and multimedia"
content. May be more effective
> than paper literature if done well.
> o Possibility of a small "website"
pre-loaded to introduce the
> conference and include other information.
Possibility of
> this being created as a community
project.
> o Include many other things, such as videos
and demos. Perhaps
> even include some good videos from
previous conferences.
> o Wacky idea about including a vmware image
of GNOME 1.0 to
> remind ourself how far we've come
> o Could use credit-card sized cdrws if usb
drives are too
> expensive?
OSDL sponsored a whole bunch of these for Linux.conf.au - it
worked out rather
well, and I'm sure Jeff can fill you in on the details.
Thanks heaps for the meeting notes guys, looks like things
are progressing well.
Glynn
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes -
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2007-01-30 20:00:15 |
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for the notes.
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 00:24 +0000, Thomas Wood wrote:
> * Gnome branded laptop stickers was one idea of
something novel and
> interesting people may appreciate
Very good point. That's been missing from our conferences
for too long.
> * Branded USB drives were another idea
> o Could use credit-card sized cdrws if usb
drives are too
> expensive?
Chances are the cds go straight to trash even if they are
cdrws. USB
drives on the other hand will be used. I have one with
Firefox
preinstalled on it on my key chain.
> * Possibility of using Spreadshirt to print
t-shirts.
Something mass-produced probably is both cheaper and more
durable, not
sure.
> * Shirt design could be a community project.
> * Only include one t-shirt this year? Lots of
people were giving out
> t-shirts last year, so their value and novelty
is probably less,
> especially for anyone who regularly attends
conferences.
True. Still last year's t-shirts were really good compared
to other
conferences I've been too.
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a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor
Safety."
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes -
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2007-01-30 20:46:08 |
Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Thanks for the notes.
>
> On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 00:24 +0000, Thomas Wood wrote:
>> * Gnome branded laptop stickers was one idea
of something novel and
>> interesting people may appreciate
>
> Very good point. That's been missing from our
conferences for too long.
I was given about 3 GNOME foot stickers at GVADEC; I wish I
could
remember who had them. Big bold things are quite cool; one
problem I had
was removing it when I sold my laptop (soap and water is
slightly
scary...), but I guess that's not an immediate concern when
we make them
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes -
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2007-01-31 05:50:31 |
Glynn Foster wrote:
> Hey,
Hi
> Thomas Wood wrote:
>
>> Catering
>>
>> * Do we include lunch with registration if
possible?
I think this could be either optional with registration OR
we could ask
what eating habits people have when they register if they
want food and
that might help with sorting out caters (or will this be too
late by
then?).
>> * Venue has set caterers, and is not flexible
on this. We need to
>> know what they provide and if it is
suitable.
>> * Another possibility would be to ask a
nearby hotel if they could
>> do any catering at a reasonable cost
>> * Packed lunch style catering may be another
option if we run out
>> of other options.
>> * Lunch might only be provided during core
days to keep costs down,
>> and to allow more flexibility. There are
plenty of eating places
>> nearby ranging from cheap fast-food to
supermarkets to more
>> expensive eateries.
That sounds like a good idea.
>> * Lunch will be an hour and a half which
should allow plenty of
>> time for impromptu meetings and
discussions.
>
> In previous years we've had trouble with catering,
mostly because everyone likes
> to eat different foods (or have different religious
backgrounds). Having options
> close to or at the conference venue is awesome, but
might not be the best bet to
> include it as part of registration or as an official
contract that we'd enter in
> IMO.
Also, is an hour and a half long enough? I would rather it
was 2hrs. The
reason being that sometimes you want to meet up with people
that are
elsewhere or things run on longer than you expect and 2hrs
seems like a
more acceptable duration - or is it just me?
>> * Possibility of using Spreadshirt to print
t-shirts.
Could we also look into polo shirts - I have seen these a
lot at other
conferences and they can be quite nice. Everyone seems to
give out
t-shirts it would be nice to be different perhaps?
Also, I am quite a cup/mug collector and have many from
Telephony
conferences I used to attend in my last job AND I only have
ONE GNOME
mug which is some unofficial mug that someone did. This
would be cool
and something a lot of people will use every day I can
imagine (assuming
it doesn't break on the way back home
--
Regards,
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes -
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2007-01-31 06:10:15 |
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 00:24 +0000, Thomas Wood wrote:
> * Possibility of using Spreadshirt to print
t-shirts.
Spreadshirt are pretty expensive for single prints, so I
wonder what
their prices for bulk runs are. The tees are good quality
though, the
Sound Juicer tees I printed came out very well
(photo-quality on the
front, vector on the back).
I recently came across http://www.equisto.co.uk/
a> who may be worth
considering too -- they will also do bulk runs.
Ross
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes -
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2007-01-31 06:24:22 |
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 12:10 +0000, Ross Burton wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 00:24 +0000, Thomas Wood wrote:
> > * Possibility of using Spreadshirt to print
t-shirts.
>
> Spreadshirt are pretty expensive for single prints, so
I wonder what
> their prices for bulk runs are. The tees are good
quality though, the
> Sound Juicer tees I printed came out very well
(photo-quality on the
> front, vector on the back).
>
> I recently came across http://www.equisto.co.uk/
a> who may be worth
> considering too -- they will also do bulk runs.
>
http://killermundi.com/
Killermundi (based in Spain) did the t-shirts for Vilanova
GUADEC, and
for every t-shirt they sell, they give part of the benefits
to GNOME
Hispano, and it might be cheaper than a UK-based shop, I
guess. So if
you don't find a better place, we can ask them to do the
t-shirts, and
even, instead of giving part of the benefits to GNOME
Hispano, have a
reduction on the price.
--
Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db.org>
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes - 20th
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2007-01-31 08:19:53 |
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 00:24 +0000, Thomas Wood wrote:
> * Call for papers system needs to be made ready
for 2007
I'm heading the motley crew to select the talks this year,
so who do I
poke/harass/bribe to get this all working again?
Ross
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes -
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2007-01-31 10:50:44 |
Ross Burton wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 00:24 +0000, Thomas Wood wrote:
>> * Call for papers system needs to be made
ready for 2007
>
> I'm heading the motley crew to select the talks this
year, so who do I
> poke/harass/bribe to get this all working again?
I can get you all signed up to guadec-papers, but if you
want to use the
Drupal system, Quim will be able to put you in contact with
the person
who set up the abstract submission module last year.
Dave.
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| Re: Guadec Planning Meeting Notes -
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2007-02-03 14:34:05 |
On 1/31/07, Thomas Wood <thos gnome.org> wrote:
> * It would be useful to produce a list of things
that we know we
> need to spend money on and have a rough idea of
how much it might
> cost
I will send you the last version of the GUADEC2006 accounts
I have. We
will make it public, but I want to check first with Chema
that the
numbers are correct. I will also blog about where I think
(from the
2006 experience) that money can be saved and better spent.
> Catering
Glynn warned us last year and is warning you this year. He
is right,
this is a complex issue. I would recommend:
a) Leave the service altogether to the caterers available in
the
venue, if you find that the relation price/quality is good.
If you do
so you need to arrange the deal and make sure you have the
money to
pay. There must be always a vegetable option (we had about
>25% in
Vilanova and nobody complained) and the easiest is to avoid
pork meat
at all.
b) If a) is not possible or too risky, solve with
vouchers/money the
problem for people requesting meals sponsorship. Consider
sponsor
dinners as well if you have the budget for that. The impact
of that
money is not big if you are in the numbers of last GUADEC,
and I agree
some people really need it.
c) Be *really* careful if you are making people pay meals
together
with inscriptions. It can be a mess if not properly managed.
If I
would be in February 2006 now I would have spent less money
in i.e.
bags and I would have tried to fully sponsor meals instead.
In order
to make such decisions you need to have the money first,
though.
d) In any case try to find the perfect solution for the Core
days,
when most of the registered people will be in place and
willing less
to go away, sleep till late, make a trip to bond... Planning
meals
for non-Core days is much more complicated and at least
myself feel
some kind of pain seeing how paid and cooked food goes to
the waste
because just a % of the people came that day.
> * Booking out a youth hostel may be a last resort,
but there were
> concerns about security.
People with less resources tend to worry less about security
(if you
mean having your cool gadget stolen). There must be a place
for those
willing to pay few-to-nothing for accommodation. You know
better than
anyone if this place is the youth hostel or a cheap hotel
around.
Anyway, if you are aiming to keep the amount of people
sponsored in
2006 (more or less) you will need to negotiate a group
accommodation
with someone.
> * Gnome branded laptop stickers was one idea of
something novel and
> interesting people may appreciate
They are planned for the GNOME Store - see
http://live
.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/GnomeStore
It would be really useful if GUADEC2007 marketing purchases
were done
in coordination with the GNOME Store, otherwise the store
itself
looses a lot of sense.
Yes, I know such store doesn exist today. In fact it exists
as
backend, we are still working in the frontend. We can start
talking
about offer and prices if you want. As you see in the wiki
page,
T-shirts, Polo shirts, Stickers and Mugs are already in the
queue of
production. The more the GNOME Store can sell to customer
GUADEC the
better we will be able to serve individual customers due to
wholesale
prices and etc.
> * Branded USB drives were another idea
We got a budget for those as well. We decided to leave it
for later at
the GNOME Store since we didn see them as something viable
by their
own. However, everything changes if you decide to ask for a
quote for
300 or so.
> * Possibility of using Spreadshirt to print
t-shirts.
Killermundi please (our provider behing the GNOME shop)
> * Possibility of polo shirts for helpers?
The sooner you know your helpers the better you will able to
provide
them a nice polo shirt fitting in their contributing bodies.
Ask Andy
what red t-shirt he got at Vilanova... (and he was one of
the first
volunteers to join the team!! but we followed alphabetical
order in
the "cerimony" and Wingo... you know).
> o Anything more than £100 would need to be
invoiced.
Please study *carefully* all the expenses relating to
sponsored people
and invited speakers. There is a lot of money invested in
travel and
accommodation. I don't know how is the system in UK, but in
Spain we
could have saved a lot of time/money with a clear policy
for
requesting invoices (not just plain tickets) in order to
recover the
VAT.
For the Call for Participation we simply used the Flexinode
module in
Drupal, that allows to define the form elements of a page.
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