Re: Abuse of GNOME "foot" logo by UK Government

----- Original message -----
> Enter supposedly innocent UK Goverment video:
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Environmentandgreen
erliving/DG_068559
> If you watch the last few seconds, you will see an
accurate likeness
> of the GNOME "foot" logo inside the second
letter "O" of the "Act On
> CO2" slogan. I don't know if the GNOME
"foot" logo is copyrighted, but
> the video may give GNOME a bad name anyway as a
"foot" picture is used
> in quite a derogatory fashion here.
> Of course, the video is massively misleading... CO2
emissions from
> electricity have no relation to how much consumers use;
it's the
> fossil fuel burning to keep the National Grid full that
generates
> these emissions. Consumer use (excepting electrical
> generators/rechargeable hybrid cars) is carbon
neutral.
> CO2 isn't a pollutant either, at today's overall low
concentration.
> How easy is it to sue UK Government for such a
contrivance?
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Sorry, I wouldn't recognise it as the gnome logo; it's the
wrong shape and also it is clear that it is part of a logo
in it's own right.

I also don't find the video missleading. The supply and
demand principle directly relates fossil fule use (and
therefore additional c02 into atmosphere) with consumer
demand, the national grid only puts in as much energy as is
being demanded. In the current situation mostly fossile
fules are meeting this. Which is why the video is saying,
please reduce unecessary demand (waste).

Michael
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Michael et al,
On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 15:52 +0000, Michael Wood wrote:
> > Of course, the video is massively misleading...
CO2 emissions from
> > electricity have no relation to how much consumers
use; it's the
> > fossil fuel burning to keep the National Grid full
that generates
> > these emissions.
I think the commentary in this video makes that quite
clear.

> Sorry, I wouldn't recognise it as the gnome logo; it's
the wrong shape
> and also it is clear that it is part of a logo in it's
own right.
I have to disagree with you here.  The Gnome logo is a left
footprint
stylised as a Latin capital G.  The footprint in the C02
logo is a right
footprint.  Ordinarily I would think that the use of the C02
logo is
distinguishable from the Gnome logo, however when related to
computers
and computing equipment I'd find it hard to distinguish.

One has to remember that trademarks must be defended. 
Whilst I don't
think that this is a major issue, maybe we should bring it
to the
attention of the Gnome board.  They might then be able to
send an
non-legal letter to the department in question advising them
that the
Gnome logo is trademarked and used in the area of
computing.

--
Aidan

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On 17/03/2008, Aidan Delaney <aidan.delaneygmail.com> wrote:
> Michael et al,
> On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 15:52 +0000, Michael Wood wrote:
> > > Of course, the video is massively
misleading... CO2 emissions from
> > > electricity have no relation to how much
consumers use; it's the
> > > fossil fuel burning to keep the National Grid
full that generates
> > > these emissions.
> I think the commentary in this video makes that quite
clear.
>
> > Sorry, I wouldn't recognise it as the gnome logo;
it's the wrong shape
> > and also it is clear that it is part of a logo in
it's own right.
> I have to disagree with you here. The Gnome logo is a
left footprint
> stylised as a Latin capital G. The footprint in the C02
logo is a right
> footprint. Ordinarily I would think that the use of the
C02 logo is
> distinguishable from the Gnome logo, however when
related to computers
> and computing equipment I'd find it hard to
distinguish.
>
> One has to remember that trademarks must be defended.
Whilst I don't
> think that this is a major issue, maybe we should bring
it to the
> attention of the Gnome board. They might then be able
to send an
> non-legal letter to the department in question advising
them that the
> Gnome logo is trademarked and used in the area of
computing.
>
> --
> Aidan
>
>
Aidan, sounds like a good compromise to me. I don't know
what made me
think "GNOME logo" instantly the first time I
watched the video-
perhaps a vested desire to sue UK Gov't for their closeted
climate
monsters of mass destruction that never materialised?
Hopefully, Gov't
will sue themselves once they fail to meet the EU's
impossible climate
change targets... or we can vote for someone better.
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