On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 18:49 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> A friend just posted me this link:
> http://fedora
project.org/wiki/FCNewInit
>
I assume that he found that link in the recent DistroWatch
Weekly
<
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060925>
where it's reported
as the latest information about Fedora's plans.
If you check that page, you'll note the following:
- It was written in June _2005_ as a result of the
following mail to
Fedora's development list:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-
devel-list/2005-June/msg01390.html
- The only update this year was in August, and that was to
add a link
to a document about upstart as a consideration
- That upstart document is dated May 2006, somewhat before
it was
proposed for edgy, let alone implemented ;)
> Fedora Core is planning on creating an init replacement
as well. Could
> someone from the Ubuntu project possibly be assigned to
collaborate with
> them to get Ubuntu upstart into Fedora?
>
I've been in contact with them on/off; momentum isn't strong
at the
moment, but that's true for everyone else as well. I get
the feeling
that most other distros are waiting for a few different
things:
- various improvements (scheduled for edgy+1)
- us to demonstrate it working in native mode (not just
running
sysv-rc)
- clearer understanding about interaction with DBus and HAL
- clearer understanding about interaction with desktop
session
management.
Obviously we've very much taken a "release early,
release often"
approach with upstart -- so the version that's in edgy is
actually very
early in the implementation plans.
My hope is that the significant public interest in upstart
will persuade
people from other distributions (some of whom are subscribed
to
upstart-devel) to join in and help lay out the design for
it.
> I think it would be terrible if all the distributions
had their own
> system for booting up- it would make
distribution-neutral packages more
> difficult and would probably cause unnecessary overhead
for many
> developers.
>
Well, we have that situation *today*. Every distribution
has a
different system, and different policy.
Scott
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