Congrats on the new press!

NY Times article about Ubuntu on the new Dells.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/technology/
circuits/04basics.html

They even link to the Ubuntu home page for downloads.

(I myself cannot wait for the new ATI drivers for my AMD/ATI
based
mobo.  GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H AM2)


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On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 15:56 -0400, Monkey Boy wrote:
> NY Times article about Ubuntu on the new Dells.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/technology/
circuits/04basics.html
> 
> They even link to the Ubuntu home page for downloads.

And to Automatix. "To watch a movie, the Linux user
must install
necessary codecs, or decoders. One way to do that is to
first download a
program called Automatix from www.getautomatix.com."

It's incredible how pervasive this meme is, and since Feisty
the codec
things even works automatically for most things (except DVD,
and there
is a 2-line command right there in the Ubuntu help in the
System menu).

It just seems to never go away, and new users will keep to
get burnt.
http://mjg59.
livejournal.com/77440.html



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Mario Vukelic wrote:
> You replied privately, but probably meant sounder.
Happens to me all the
> time, too ;) Fell free to reply to the list

Hi, and yes, this is true.  I never
recall that most (if not all?) ubuntu 
lists are configured differently than what I'm accustomed
to, and since I'm 
using thunderbird, which _still_ lacks the correct
reply-to-list feature, 
accidents happen.  Sorry
about this.

> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 09:03 +0300, Janne Jokitalo
wrote:
>> Well, I think I saw somewhere a post about the
authors of Automatix
>> getting into cooperation with ubuntu devs, starting
from the Boston
>> UDS. I would imagine things getting into better
direction soon.
> 
> Really? Interesting. So far, they did not take very
well to criticism of
> their product and programming practices.

Yeah, I recall seeing that earlier, but apparently they have
changed their 
minds about this, better for all of us really.

Here's the post I was referring to:

<https://lists.ubuntu.com/arch
ives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2007-October/001902.html>


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On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 09:22 +0300, Janne Jokitalo wrote:
> Hi, and yes, this is true.  I never
recall that most (if not all?) ubuntu 
> lists are configured differently than what I'm
accustomed to, and since I'm 
> using thunderbird, which _still_ lacks the correct
reply-to-list feature, 
> accidents happen.  Sorry
about this.

No problem. Evolution does the right thing when you press
Ctrl+L, but
has not toolbar button, which I tend to use. And since I
post mostly on
-users, sounder catches me out a lot. In fact, I had to
change the
address to this very mail _

> Yeah, I recall seeing that earlier, but apparently they
have changed their 
> minds about this, better for all of us really.
> 
> Here's the post I was referring to:
> 
> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/arch
ives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2007-October/001902.html>


Cool, thanks for the info, and kudos to the Automatix guys
for coming
around.


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Op dinsdag 09-10-2007 om 09:22 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef
Janne
Jokitalo:
> and since I'm using thunderbird, which _still_ lacks
the correct
> reply-to-list feature, 

AFAIK Thunderbird in Ubuntu (at least Feisty) has the
necessary patches
to allow the plugin that implements this to work.

<http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=R
eplyToListThunderbirdExtension>
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunderbird/+bug/52667>


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Op donderdag 11-10-2007 om 14:53 uur [tijdzone -0700],
schreef Scott
(angrykeyboarder):
> Jan Claeys spake thusly :
> > AFAIK Thunderbird in Ubuntu (at least Feisty) has
the necessary patches
> > to allow the plugin that implements this to work.
> > 
> > <http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=R
eplyToListThunderbirdExtension>
> > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunderbird/+bug/52667>
> 
> I'm running Thunderbird in Gutsy right now and there is
no "Reply to 
> list option".

Do you have the plugin installed?


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Op vrijdag 12-10-2007 om 07:38 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef
Janne Jokitalo:
> Jan Claeys wrote:
> > Op dinsdag 09-10-2007 om 09:22 uur [tijdzone
+0300], schreef Janne
> > Jokitalo:
> >> and since I'm using thunderbird, which _still_
lacks the correct
> >> reply-to-list feature, 
> > 
> > AFAIK Thunderbird in Ubuntu (at least Feisty) has
the necessary patches
> > to allow the plugin that implements this to work.
> 
> Thanks for the tip, Jan! I tried it, and it installs,
but doesn't work. 
> Don't know whether it's because Enigmail for my
platform (AMD64) doesn't 
> work in gutsy, or some other reason. I do see a new
option in the Message 
> menu, and I could drag a toolbar button for it, but
neither one are 
> clickable. 
> 
> I'll see if Enigmail comes installable sometimes for my
machine, if it makes 
> any difference. Otherwise, it looks like Thunderbird
will continue not being 
> able to use this feature. *sigh*

So, this is a regression bug compared to feisty (I'm sure it
worked back
then), this should be a high-priority bug if you file it!


> I really have to wonder, don't T-bird's authors really
ever use mailing 
> lists at all?! ;)

Well, considering that this bug has existed in Mozilla's
bugzilla for at
least 7 years or something like that, I guess they never use
mailing
lists...


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Op vrijdag 12-10-2007 om 08:45 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef
Janne
Jokitalo:
> Okay, this is weird. I figured that since the extension
from the Mozilla
> add-on pages doesn't work for x86_64 architecture,
maybe I can find a
> working one someplace else. And I did, from
enigmail.mozdev.org.

Why not use the one in the Ubuntu repositories?


> Installed that one, and thought maybe ReplyToList works
now. It doesn't.
> Thought I'd report it here, so proceed on the normal
way of responding to
> ubuntu mailing lists, so I hit Ctrl+R...
> 
> And what do I see in To: field? "sounderlists.ubuntu.com"
> 
> I'm.... stumped.
> 
> A quick run-around on posts from other ubuntu-related
lists shows me that
> Ctrl+R works for ubuntu-users, and sounder, but doesn't
work for
> ubuntu-devel-discuss, bazaar or an un-related (well
closely, anyway) storm
> mailing lists, all of which honour the List-Post: field
correctly.
> 
> Has T-bird gone mad?

No idea, but it sounds weird indeed.  


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In 4712E927.7050507kapsi.fi on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:14:31
+0300, Janne
Jokitalo spake thusly:

> Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote:
[...]
>> Where do I find this extension?
>> 
>> Is this in the repo or is it at addons.mozilla.org?
 I looked both
>> places and didn't see anything that looked to be
it.
> 
> It's in the first link provided by Jan (the Canadian
site). Keep
> looking, it's there. 

My bad. Thanks.
> 
> T-bird's Enigmail add-on can be installed by:
> 
> $ sudo aptitude install mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail

That one I already have.



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