install ubuntu without CD-rom drive?

"Tod Merley" <todbot88gmail.com> wrote:


> Replies at bottom:
> 
> On 9/8/06, JeremyWorst <ulistgs1.ubuntuforums.org>
wrote:
> >
[Laptop cannot boot from external CDRom, connected via
PCMCIA]

  
> Hi Again Jeremy!
> 
> Two things:
> 
> 1. Memory!!  I hope you have the max. (128mb) but I
would
> guess that you are at at the original (64mb).  That is
not
> enough for Ubuntu. Even 128mb is too small for a decent
> graphical environment (but could probably be done).  

Well, I guess, Xubuntu will run acceptably well on this
machine
(with 128mb). I tried on a desktop PI/166 and this worked
pretty
ok, as long as I did not give in to the tempatation to start
OOorg. 

Probably
> time to go to www.linux.org > Distributions :
English :
> minimalist.  There are several ( tomsrtbt is well
known:
> http://www.toms.net/rb/ )
which fit on one or two floppies.
> Perhaps you can use one of them to load - say Puppy
Linux
> which, once on the HD could easily be happy with the
64mb.
> 
if ubuntu does not work out for you, you might also try
damnsmallinux (see: http://www.damnsmallli
nux.org/)


> 2. I note that the normal box comes with a CD (pretty
> common).  You mention one which attaches through the
PCMCIA
> bus.  Well, I wonder if you could find something a bit
> closer.  It is hard to believe that a computer actually
cannot
> boot from CD.

Well, according to

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/review.aspx?CIaRID=141,
the box
indeed comes with an external cd-rom, conncected via PCMCIA,
as
stated by the PO, and remember, the box is SMALL . 

In contrast to your statement, I have no hard time to
believe
that a computer cannot boot frm CDrom. I had plenty of PI
Compaq
Notebooks that would not even bother to boot from internal
ide
cd-drives. Although, in the latter case, I could always use
"smart bootmanager", http://btmgr.webframe.org/
, but this will
probably not be usable here, if the cdrom-drive is
unaccessible
at boot timee.
> 
> 3. You might be able to use one of the minimalist
"one floppy"
> distros to or Linux on another computer to make a boot
floppy
> which establishes a boot from your CD.

I would go the already proposed route and take the harddisk
from the Toshiba and load it with Kubuntu
"elsewhere", using a
cheap adapter that allows the notebook Disk to be connected
to an
ordinary desktop.
> 
> Good Hunting!
> 
> Tod
Thanks!
Eberhard

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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:54:34 +0200
Eberhard Roloff <tuxebigmx.de> wrote:

> 
> "Tod Merley" <todbot88gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Replies at bottom:
> > 
> > On 9/8/06, JeremyWorst <ulistgs1.ubuntuforums.org> wrote:
> > >
> [Laptop cannot boot from external CDRom, connected via
> PCMCIA]
> 
>   
> > Hi Again Jeremy!
> > 
> > Two things:
> > 
> > 1. Memory!!  I hope you have the max. (128mb) but
I would
> > guess that you are at at the original (64mb). 
That is not
> > enough for Ubuntu. Even 128mb is too small for a
decent
> > graphical environment (but could probably be
done).  
> 
> Well, I guess, Xubuntu will run acceptably well on this
machine
> (with 128mb). I tried on a desktop PI/166 and this
worked
> pretty ok, as long as I did not give in to the
tempatation to
> start OOorg. 
> 
> Probably
> > time to go to www.linux.org > Distributions :
English :
> > minimalist.  There are several ( tomsrtbt is well
known:
> > http://www.toms.net/rb/ )
which fit on one or two floppies.
> > Perhaps you can use one of them to load - say
Puppy Linux
> > which, once on the HD could easily be happy with
the 64mb.
> > 
> if ubuntu does not work out for you, you might also try
> damnsmallinux (see: http://www.damnsmallli
nux.org/)
> 
> 
> > 2. I note that the normal box comes with a CD
(pretty
> > common).  You mention one which attaches through
the PCMCIA
> > bus.  Well, I wonder if you could find something a
bit
> > closer.  It is hard to believe that a computer
actually
> > cannot boot from CD.
> 
> Well, according to
> 
http://www.pcauthority.com.au/review.aspx?CIaRID=141,
the box
> indeed comes with an external cd-rom, conncected via
PCMCIA, as
> stated by the PO, and remember, the box is SMALL . 
> 
> In contrast to your statement, I have no hard time to
believe
> that a computer cannot boot frm CDrom. I had plenty of
PI
> Compaq Notebooks that would not even bother to boot
from
> internal ide cd-drives. Although, in the latter case, I
could
> always use "smart bootmanager", http://btmgr.webframe.org/
,
> but this will probably not be usable here, if the
cdrom-drive
> is unaccessible at boot timee.
> > 
Hi I just looked it up more closely, and on the site, it is
written:
cite on:
Booting from CD-ROM
Smart BootManager supports booting from almost all kinds of
IDE
ATAPI CD-ROM, including PCMCIA CD-ROMs. You can let BIOS
boot
from C: only and assign a password for it, then you can boot
from CD-ROM with Smart BootManager easily, while other guy
couldn't. If you have a Laptop computer with a special
PCMCIA
CD-ROM which BIOS does not support booting from, Smart
BootManager can help you make it easy!
:cite off

So this might possibly be your solution. For what it is
worth, I
always had good results with Smartbootmanager, booting
Machines
from CD that were never meant to even think of CD
boots.DEspite
this I freely admit, that I never tried it on an
external CD-Rom Drive

good luck
Eberhard

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