Going from debian to ubuntu with sources.list , apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

Going from debian to ubuntu with 

sources.list , apt-get update; apt-get upgrade



So, I was told to just find a good sources.list from ubuntu
(since I use

kde, probably kubuntu). 

Where is a good sources.list I can cut and past from the
web?

then do a:

apt-get update; apt-get upgrade



How likely is it that I will be able to keep working after

doing this? 



Has anyone done it?



Will I lose my settings and other user files?



Thanks in advance.

j

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On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 17:05 -0400, J F wrote:
> 
> Going from debian to ubuntu with 
> 
> sources.list , apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
> 
This is totally not supported and may or may not work at any
given time.
Most likely you will at the least have to resolve many
package
dependencies manually. You system will probably also remain
subtly
different from a freshly-installed Ubuntu.

The best course of action would be to back up /home and what
you need
from /etc, and do a fresh install


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On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 17:05 -0400, J F wrote:
> apt-get upgrade

In addition to my previous mail, you will at the least have
to use
"apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of
"upgrade", since there will surely
have to be packages removed. You will get stuck and probably
have to use
"apt-get -f install" and "dpkg-reconfigure
--all", and, if you are
unlucky, a selection of the output by "dpkg
--force-help"


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On Sun, 8. April 2007 23:05:52 J F wrote:
> Going from debian to ubuntu with
>
> sources.list , apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
>
>
>
> So, I was told to just find a good sources.list from
ubuntu (since I use 
> kde, probably kubuntu). 
> Where is a good sources.list I can cut and past from
the web?
Have a look here (german page, but you will find
sources.list's for edgy and 
feisty):
http://wiki.u
buntuusers.de/sources.list

> then do a:
> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
This will not solve all upgrades, you will have to do an 
 apt-get dist-upgrade
afterwards.
If you are not (very) skilled in using apt-get in an xterm I
would suggest 
doing this via synaptic. It's easier to see the dependencies
and search for a 
solution.

> How likely is it that I will be able to keep working
after doing this?
Depends on if you have installed pakets from other sources
than debian itself.

> Has anyone done it?
Yep. I did, but from sid to breezy not for feisty.
I had to remove a lot of stuff and reinstall it afterwards
to solve some 
dependencies.

> Will I lose my settings and other user files?
Depending on the customisation(s) you did for your system
settings and 
services you are running it might be that you have to do
some reconfiguration 
afterwards. E.G. for a moinmoin wiki, trac, svn, postfix and
others.

> Thanks in advance.
you're welcome 

regards,
thomas

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David Delony wrote:
> 
> On Apr 8, 2007, at 2:05 PM, J F wrote:
> 
>>
>> Going from debian to ubuntu with 
>>
>> sources.list , apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I was told to just find a good sources.list
from ubuntu (since I use
>>
>> kde, probably kubuntu). 
>>
>> Where is a good sources.list I can cut and past
from the web?
> 
> The stock sources.list file has links to the
"universe" and "multiverse"
> and non-free repositories available. Just open them up
with
> root privileges in your favorite editor and uncomment
them.
>

   I don't think that's what he's asking. He wants to go
from a Debian
installation to a Ubuntu installation. AFAIK I don't think
that's a good
idea. But I could be wrong.

Cheers

Frank
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2007, J F wrote:

> Going from debian to ubuntu with
>
> sources.list , apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

[...]

> How likely is it that I will be able to keep working
after
> doing this?
>
> Has anyone done it?

I tried on a freshly-build UML VDS Sarge install; it bombed
out on a few
things, which quite frankly, I couldn't be arsed fixing
after about the
11th attempt to get things going: on a bog-standard Sarge
netinstall'd
box, i was getting similar issues, so can't really say it
was down to
either UML, or VDS.

If you do try it, the first thing I can say is make sure
your Kernel's
>2,6 : you'll need it for other bits.


> Will I lose my settings and other user files?

Depends where you've saved them and so on; I bung local
edits into RCS,
so it's not *too* much of a biggie when installers go and
try to
over-write (or I choose the wrong option in Debconf).

If you're bothered about them, back them up; you can also
diff
post-install (assuming it works).

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