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where to send bug reports
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2006-09-10 11:40:02
Apologies - I know I ought to be able to find this
somewhere, and I *have* 
searched through my own archives for "bug
reports", but it really is much 
easier just to ask here: where should big reports be sent?
Should I 
register at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/45198
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and post my bug there?

Yesterday I discovered the clever way in which, if you go to
the URL window 
and start typing something in quotes, Opera automatically
places a g and a 
space in front of it. I then immediately discovered that
when it came to 
it, the program rejects the entry because it doesn't see
the "g ", so you 
get an error message. The "g " only works if you
type it in by hand. I 
assume everyone else has this "problem"?

This morning I downloaded build 8573 and it is no better in
this respect.

Cheers,

Harry

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2006-09-10 12:01:58
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:40:02 +0100, Harry Lake
<harry.lakewxs.nl> wrote:

> Yesterday I discovered the clever way in which, if you
go to the URL  
> window and start typing something in quotes, Opera
automatically places  
> a g and a space in front of it. I then immediately
discovered that when  
> it came to it, the program rejects the entry because it
doesn't see the  
> "g ", so you get an error message. The
"g " only works if you type it in  
> by hand. I assume everyone else has this
"problem"?

I think you have mis-read the screen Harry, for me, with
build 8573 when I  
start typing /anything/ into the F2 box (or the address bar)
I get the  
same text with the 'g ' prefix offered as an alternative
below the box.  
That 'g ' prefix is not /in/ the box, you have to sellect
it explicitly  
before you 'OK' it.

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2006-09-10 12:03:41
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:40:02 +0100, Harry Lake
<harry.lakewxs.nl> wrote:

> Apologies - I know I ought to be able to find this
somewhere, and I  
> *have* searched through my own archives for "bug
reports", but it really  
> is much easier just to ask here: where should big
reports be sent?

Try <URL: http://www.ope
ra.com/support/bugs/> Harry.

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2006-09-10 13:37:28
On 10 Sep 2006 at 13:40, Harry Lake said:

> Apologies - I know I ought to be able to find this
somewhere, and I *have*
> searched through my own archives for "bug
reports", but it really is much
> easier just to ask here: where should big reports be
sent? Should I
> register at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/45198
8#comments
> and post my bug there?
> 
> Yesterday I discovered the clever way in which, if you
go to the URL
> window and start typing something in quotes, Opera
automatically places a
> g and a space in front of it. I then immediately
discovered that when it
> came to it, the program rejects the entry because it
doesn't see the "g ",
> so you get an error message. The "g " only
works if you type it in by
> hand. I assume everyone else has this
"problem"?

Um ... all you need do is hit down-arrow ... something I
frequently do by 
accident!

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2006-09-10 14:05:00
Hi Malcolm and Fred,

Many thanks for your perspicacious answers!

Having said that - wouldn't it be an idea if Opera could actually *assume* this is what you want? Possibly with the option of turning it off?

Harry
'g ' prefix when typing a URL
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2006-09-10 16:30:37
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:05:00 +0100, Harry Lake
<harry.lakewxs.nl> wrote:

> Having said that - wouldn't it be an idea if Opera
could actually  
> *assume* this is what you want? Possibly with the
option of turning it  
> off?

Not really Harry! If I type something where a URL is
expected, then I  
expect the default to be to (try to) interpret it as a URL
and not as a  
Google search request.

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2006-09-10 20:33:06
At 18:30 10-9-2006 CET, you wrote:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:05:00 +0100, Harry Lake <harry.lakewxs.nl> wrote:

Having said that - wouldn't it be an idea if Opera could actually&nbsp;
*assume* this is what you want? Possibly with the option of turning it 
off?

Not really Harry! If I type something where a URL is expected, then I&nbsp;
expect the default to be to (try to) interpret it as a URL and not as a 
Google search request.

Absolutely, me too. But - correct me if I'm wrong - every single URL *always* has at least one full stop followed by something other than a space. In Fred's off-list example, bl.uk. A combination that does not occur in, I suggest, 99.9% of Google search strings. As soon as the system sees that, it knows what you're typing is a URL. More or less what it does now, in other words, I'd have thought. In my example,
japanese binoculars "serial numbers&quot; site:uk
would instantly be recognizable as not a URL.

Harry

'g ' prefix when typing a URL
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2006-09-10 21:02:50
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:33:06 +0100, Harry Lake
<harry.lakewxs.nl> wrote:

> Absolutely, me too. But - correct me if I'm wrong -
every single URL  
> *always* has at least one full stop followed by
something other than a  
> space. In Fred's off-list example, bl.uk. A
combination that does not  
> occur in, I suggest, 99.9% of Google search strings. As
soon as the  
> system sees that, it knows what you're typing is a
URL. More or less  
> what it does now, in other words, I'd have thought. In
my example,
> japanese binoculars "serial numbers"
site:uk
> would instantly be recognizable as not a URL.

I take your point Harry but I think it's dangerous to
select on an  
empirical basis that may be invalidated in the near future.
If two words  
are typed in then it would be a safe decision fine since a
space is  
illegal in a URL. Without a space, I'm not sure there is a
safe choice to  
be made.

And don't forget, this would only be possible for a single
word if URL  
completion is turned off - when I type in binoculars, I get
taken to  
www.binoculars.com by auto-completion.

It's no issue for me, I always have a google search box on
my Main Bar so  
it's there even when I'm reading (or writing) email.

= Malcolm.

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2006-09-10 21:21:42
At 23:02 10-9-2006 CET, you wrote:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:33:06 +0100, Harry Lake <harry.lakewxs.nl> wrote:

Absolutely, me too. But - correct me if I'm wrong - every single URL 
*always* has at least one full stop followed by something other than a&nbsp;
space. In Fred's off-list example, bl.uk. A combination that does not&nbsp;
occur in, I suggest, 99.9% of Google search strings. As soon as the 
system sees that, it knows what you're typing is a URL. More or less&nbsp;
what it does now, in other words, I'd have thought. In my example,
japanese binoculars "serial numbers&quot; site:uk
would instantly be recognizable as not a URL.

I take your point Harry but I think it's dangerous to select on an 
empirical basis that may be invalidated in the near future. If two words&nbsp;
are typed in then it would be a safe decision fine since a space is 
illegal in a URL. Without a space, I'm not sure there is a safe choice to&nbsp;
be made.

And don't forget, this would only be possible for a single word if URL&nbsp;
completion is turned off - when I type in binoculars, I get taken to&nbsp;
www.binoculars.com by auto-completion.

It's no issue for me, I always have a google search box on my Main Bar so 
it's there even when I'm reading (or writing) email.

I don't use Opera for mail, and I'm never sure what all the bars are called. I do have a Google search box on the same line as the URL box. What I would really like to see would be a way of setting the widths of the various boxes. I usually have short URLs to type in, and long Google search strings, so it would be convenient to me to be able to set a short URL box and a long Google one. This idea was pooh-poohed last time I mooted it, and somehow one tends to stop suggesting things when they get pooh-poohed the first time. In fact, the argument goven at the time was that there was no need for it because I could always use the URL box and put g-space at the front. That's not a reason for not doing what I would like, it's just an alternative, as I see it. But I am accustomed to people not seeing things my way, however right I am! ) I discovered this feature (the automatic insertion of g-space) by accident when I inadvertently started typing a Google search string into the U! RL box . Maybe my idea would work better if it were to use two conditions, viz. 1) no full stops not followed by a space, and 2) at least two words. That would do it, wouldn't it?

Cheers,

Harry

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2006-09-10 22:04:53
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:05:00 -0500, Harry Lake
<harry.lakewxs.nl> wrote:

> Hi Malcolm and Fred,
>
> Many thanks for your perspicacious answers!
>
> Having said that - wouldn't it be an idea if Opera
could actually  
> *assume*
> this is what you want? Possibly with the option of
turning it off?
>
> Harry

Not really.  Suppose I am typing a web address without the
"www".  I don't  
want to query Google, I just want the web address. 
Similarly, suppose I  
want to use another search engine, etc...

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