Re: RFC 3921bis Managing Presence Subscriptions based on full JIDs serious issue

Pedro Melo pisze:
> On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Tomasz Sterna wrote:
>> Dnia 2008-02-07, Cz o godzinie 15:48 +0100, Ralph
Meijer pisze:
>>>> I still see a very good use case for having
full JIDs on the roster:
>>>> to communicate with different facets of the
same thing.
>>>> Ex. chrome.pl/echo and chrome.pl/broadcast
>>>> or +48123456789sms.chrome.pl/Gateway1
>>>> and +48123456789sms.chrome.pl/Gateway2
>> But why do you enforce me to choose the resource
every time (instead of
>> just double clicking the contact) when I know that
I will always be
>> wanting to communicate only with the given one?
> hmms... You are asking a client to decide something
semantic based on 
> the resource value.
> It really depends why would you want to choose Gateway1
over Gateway2. 
> If it is because you want to use some specific feature
that 1 provides 
> that 2 does not, then it's clearly a matter for
capabilities and not 
> resource names.
It depends on which SMS gateway is provided by your mobile
operator and 
and who operates the number you're trying to reach. And yes,
it's mostly 
about money and other limits that mobile operators have in
their gateways.
(So for example, if my phone is operated by operator A, and
I'm trying 
to send to a number operated by the same operator, I
probably want to 
use operator A's gateway. But if the number I am trying to
reach is from 
operator B, operator A's gateway may not allow me to send
this message 
for free. Also using operator B's gateway may be not-free
for me (as my 
number is operated by A). But maybe it will be cheaper with
my current 
cost plan. Etc, etc.)

-- 
Maciek
  xmpp:machekkuuaznia.net

> It depends on which SMS gateway is provided by your
mobile operator and 
> and who operates the number you're trying to reach. And
yes, it's mostly 
> about money and other limits that mobile operators have
in their gateways.
> (So for example, if my phone is operated by operator A,
and I'm trying 
> to send to a number operated by the same operator, I
probably want to 
> use operator A's gateway. But if the number I am trying
to reach is from 
> operator B, operator A's gateway may not allow me to
send this message 
> for free. Also using operator B's gateway may be
not-free for me (as my 
> number is operated by A). But maybe it will be cheaper
with my current 
> cost plan. Etc, etc.)

But surely in those cases the JIDs would be something like:

+48123456789vodafone.sms.chrome.pl
+48123456789orange.sms.chrome.pl
+48123456789tmobile.sms.chrome.pl

rather than using resources to denote them.

Richard