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newbie questions
user name
2006-01-20 00:55:16
Hi All
 New to YDL and have a few basic questions (I've searched
this list's
archives and was able to find answers on my own).
     1)   How do I get netatalk going?
     2)   How (or can) I mount a USB external drive
formatted in Mac OS X?
     3)   How do I get my router to see my YDL machine?
(What's IP and
need internet access?)

 TIA
    Rob
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newbie questions
user name
2006-01-20 01:00:50
On 1/19/06, rev rob <houseofshamegmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>  New to YDL and have a few basic questions (I've
searched this list's
> archives and was able to find answers on my own).
>      1)   How do I get netatalk going?
>      2)   How (or can) I mount a USB external drive
formatted in Mac OS X?
>      3)   How do I get my router to see my YDL machine?
(What's IP and
> need internet access?)
>
>  TIA
>     Rob
oh yeah, sorry, I'm running YDL 4.01 on an iMac 233 with
160Mb of RAM
          thanks
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newbie questions
user name
2006-01-20 07:15:16
Hi Rev:
First for more detailed information refer to:
http://netatalk.sour
ceforge.net/

Next see if you have netatalk, the # indicates that you
should be in su  
(superuser mode):

# whereis netatalk

now if you have it you should get a directory listing where
it is like  
/usr/bin.  If it turns out that it is there then you go
there and start  
it by:

# cd /usr/bin
# ./netatalk

and you are off!

If you don't have netatalk, you could ask yum to find it and
then  
install it.

# yum search netatalk

once yum lists it as available then do:

# yum install netatalk

Then you do the process above again to find where it is and
start it.

Regarding mounting USB external drive.  Most current linux
kernels can  
do this automatically nowadays; however there are occasional
missing  
pieces of facilitating programs here are there occasionally.
 So let's  
assume it's a few years ago and we have to do this the hard
way, which  
isn't that hard -- just tedious.  Once you can do this, it
won't matter  
whether you have the kernel support or not.

Obviously make sure the USB cable is connected and the drive
you wish  
to mount is on -- a Homer Simpson doh -- is appropriate
here.  You  
would be astounded how many get caught up right there.  If
your kernel  
and the port is functioning properly, your device should
mount by  
itself.  If nothing happens, try another USB port.  If
nothing still  
happens then we move on to one of the following procedures:

http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/so
lutions/ydl_general/usb- 
device.shtml

or

http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/solutions/
ydl_2.3/ 
firewire_disks.shtml

The above two approaches, although dated, are like one of
those  
statements Yogi Berra has been known to make "When you
come to a fork  
in the road, take it."  The explanation behind that
statement is that  
in Brooklyn, NY there exists two forks leading to the same
road.  The  
above instructions are like that, they are different in
appearance but  
they will get your drive mounted.  Of course, you know
enough to use  
mount hfs as opposed to mount ext3.

Before I forget Linux can read/write from hfs but only read
from hfs+.   
So from within the MacOS X side, make sure your drive is in
hfs!  You  
can make the necessary changes from within Apple's disk
utility.   
Select your drive within the left column and if it is not
hfs+ the icon  
for Enable Journaling will highlight.  To disable Journaling
and return  
to HFS format, do Command (Apple clover symbol) and j.

The router usually has a way to access it via a browser
nowadays.  The  
specific directions to access it vary with the manufacturer.
 IP refers  
to Internet Protocol; TCP Transfer Control Protocol.  The IP
address  
identifies every device (there are massive texts on the
subject, very  
interesting and recommended reading if one wants to have a
clearer idea  
of what is going on).  The IP address for your router to
access the net  
is provided by the ISP you got the router from; you may have
a wireless  
router or a regular one.  The advantage of a wireless router
is that  
this will allow access to the net from wherever in your home
you are.   
If you acquired your own wireless router to attach to your
regular  
router then you will be able to enforce security within your
home so  
that anyone within the home can access your wireless network
but anyone  
else merely roaming in the neighborhood cannot.  Not all ISP
providers  
have such security for their users; usually they are just
intent on  
selling their services.

Regarding getting your router to see your YDL system; this
is a matter  
of really comprehending IP.  First, your router has to
communicate with  
your ISP properly (the company providing you internet access
 --  
Internet Service Provider.  It can be your cable or phone or
other  
company.  IF you have high speed access -- DSL or cable --
great!   
Cable and dsl have different problems providing security for
their  
customers.  You can get a little ahead of that problem by
including a  
little device which is essentially a hardware firewall and
because it  
sits between the wireless router and DSL modem or cable
modem and  
wireless router it doesn't matter what computer you use, no
viruses,  
worms or anything else will pass it!  And no update/upgrade
fees either  
(as long as you are not a business).  Read up on it here:   

http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/75f3/). 
Next your YDL  
setup has to be told what this device is.  This can be done
from within  
the Network Browser within YDL.  Once you see that it has
the IP  
address of the device that's really all it needs.  Make sure
it's  
activated and that's it.

Best wishes...

> On 1/19/06, rev rob <houseofshamegmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All
>>  New to YDL and have a few basic questions (I've
searched this list's
>> archives and was able to find answers on my own).
>>      1)   How do I get netatalk going?
>>      2)   How (or can) I mount a USB external drive
formatted in Mac  
>> OS X?
>>      3)   How do I get my router to see my YDL
machine? (What's IP and
>> need internet access?)
>>
>>  TIA
>>     Rob
> oh yeah, sorry, I'm running YDL 4.01 on an iMac 233
with 160Mb of RAM
>           thanks

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newbie questions
user name
2006-01-21 02:24:47
Thank you so much. That was extremely helpful.
   Thanks again
       Rob

On 1/20/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Rev:
> First for more detailed information refer to:
> http://netatalk.sour
ceforge.net/
>
> Next see if you have netatalk, the # indicates that you
should be in su
> (superuser mode):
>
> # whereis netatalk
>
> now if you have it you should get a directory listing
where it is like
> /usr/bin.  If it turns out that it is there then you go
there and start
> it by:
>
> # cd /usr/bin
> # ./netatalk
>
> and you are off!
>
> If you don't have netatalk, you could ask yum to find
it and then
> install it.
>
> # yum search netatalk
>
> once yum lists it as available then do:
>
> # yum install netatalk
>
> Then you do the process above again to find where it is
and start it.
>
> Regarding mounting USB external drive.  Most current
linux kernels can
> do this automatically nowadays; however there are
occasional missing
> pieces of facilitating programs here are there
occasionally.  So let's
> assume it's a few years ago and we have to do this the
hard way, which
> isn't that hard -- just tedious.  Once you can do this,
it won't matter
> whether you have the kernel support or not.
>
> Obviously make sure the USB cable is connected and the
drive you wish
> to mount is on -- a Homer Simpson doh -- is appropriate
here.  You
> would be astounded how many get caught up right there. 
If your kernel
> and the port is functioning properly, your device
should mount by
> itself.  If nothing happens, try another USB port.  If
nothing still
> happens then we move on to one of the following
procedures:
>
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/so
lutions/ydl_general/usb-
> device.shtml
>
> or
>
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/solutions/
ydl_2.3/
> firewire_disks.shtml
>
> The above two approaches, although dated, are like one
of those
> statements Yogi Berra has been known to make "When
you come to a fork
> in the road, take it."  The explanation behind
that statement is that
> in Brooklyn, NY there exists two forks leading to the
same road.  The
> above instructions are like that, they are different in
appearance but
> they will get your drive mounted.  Of course, you know
enough to use
> mount hfs as opposed to mount ext3.
>
> Before I forget Linux can read/write from hfs but only
read from hfs+.
> So from within the MacOS X side, make sure your drive
is in hfs!  You
> can make the necessary changes from within Apple's disk
utility.
> Select your drive within the left column and if it is
not hfs+ the icon
> for Enable Journaling will highlight.  To disable
Journaling and return
> to HFS format, do Command (Apple clover symbol) and j.
>
> The router usually has a way to access it via a browser
nowadays.  The
> specific directions to access it vary with the
manufacturer.  IP refers
> to Internet Protocol; TCP Transfer Control Protocol. 
The IP address
> identifies every device (there are massive texts on the
subject, very
> interesting and recommended reading if one wants to
have a clearer idea
> of what is going on).  The IP address for your router
to access the net
> is provided by the ISP you got the router from; you may
have a wireless
> router or a regular one.  The advantage of a wireless
router is that
> this will allow access to the net from wherever in your
home you are.
> If you acquired your own wireless router to attach to
your regular
> router then you will be able to enforce security within
your home so
> that anyone within the home can access your wireless
network but anyone
> else merely roaming in the neighborhood cannot.  Not
all ISP providers
> have such security for their users; usually they are
just intent on
> selling their services.
>
> Regarding getting your router to see your YDL system;
this is a matter
> of really comprehending IP.  First, your router has to
communicate with
> your ISP properly (the company providing you internet
access  --
> Internet Service Provider.  It can be your cable or
phone or other
> company.  IF you have high speed access -- DSL or cable
-- great!
> Cable and dsl have different problems providing
security for their
> customers.  You can get a little ahead of that problem
by including a
> little device which is essentially a hardware firewall
and because it
> sits between the wireless router and DSL modem or cable
modem and
> wireless router it doesn't matter what computer you
use, no viruses,
> worms or anything else will pass it!  And no
update/upgrade fees either
> (as long as you are not a business).  Read up on it
here:
> 
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/75f3/). 
Next your YDL
> setup has to be told what this device is.  This can be
done from within
> the Network Browser within YDL.  Once you see that it
has the IP
> address of the device that's really all it needs.  Make
sure it's
> activated and that's it.
>
> Best wishes...
>
> > On 1/19/06, rev rob <houseofshamegmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi All
> >>  New to YDL and have a few basic questions
(I've searched this list's
> >> archives and was able to find answers on my
own).
> >>      1)   How do I get netatalk going?
> >>      2)   How (or can) I mount a USB external
drive formatted in Mac
> >> OS X?
> >>      3)   How do I get my router to see my YDL
machine? (What's IP and
> >> need internet access?)
> >>
> >>  TIA
> >>     Rob
> > oh yeah, sorry, I'm running YDL 4.01 on an iMac
233 with 160Mb of RAM
> >           thanks
>
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