USB Drive

Hi again and special thanks to Derick,
 I'm running YDL 3.01 on my iMac 233 with kernel 2.4.22. I
want to  an
external usb drive I have for more storage since the
internal iMac
drive is only 4.3G. The drive has some things on it from os
x that I
know longer need. What do I have to do make this USB drive
work with
my linux box?
    TIA and have a great day
        Rob
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Hi rev:
I'll assume you read and had no trouble understanding the
previous 
links I recommended to you.  From there once your drive is
mounted all 
you need to do is use pdisk to wipe out/erase your USB drive
so that it 
is formated for use as a LInux drive.  That's it, of course
you are 
clear that you'll have to set mount points for the USB
drive, a name 
and create a directory within /mnt using that same name.  So
let's say 
the name you choose is charles. Then:

# cd /mnt
# mkdir charles

 From then on when you mount that drive you can do:

# mount /mnt/charles

and that should be it.

Best wishes...

On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, rev rob wrote:

> Hi again and special thanks to Derick,
>  I'm running YDL 3.01 on my iMac 233 with kernel
2.4.22. I want to  an
> external usb drive I have for more storage since the
internal iMac
> drive is only 4.3G. The drive has some things on it
from os x that I
> know longer need. What do I have to do make this USB
drive work with
> my linux box?
>     TIA and have a great day
>         Rob
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THANK YOU so much for your help and time.
  i tried:
     tail -f /var/log/messages
and it seems my kernel doesn't support usb devices. So I'm
downloading
the iso's for ydl 4.0.
I'll try that and keep you informed on my progress.
 Again thanks so much
     rob

On 1/21/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
> Hi rev:
> I'll assume you read and had no trouble understanding
the previous
> links I recommended to you.  From there once your drive
is mounted all
> you need to do is use pdisk to wipe out/erase your USB
drive so that it
> is formated for use as a LInux drive.  That's it, of
course you are
> clear that you'll have to set mount points for the USB
drive, a name
> and create a directory within /mnt using that same
name.  So let's say
> the name you choose is charles. Then:
>
> # cd /mnt
> # mkdir charles
>
>  From then on when you mount that drive you can do:
>
> # mount /mnt/charles
>
> and that should be it.
>
> Best wishes...
>
> On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, rev rob wrote:
>
> > Hi again and special thanks to Derick,
> >  I'm running YDL 3.01 on my iMac 233 with kernel
2.4.22. I want to  an
> > external usb drive I have for more storage since
the internal iMac
> > drive is only 4.3G. The drive has some things on
it from os x that I
> > know longer need. What do I have to do make this
USB drive work with
> > my linux box?
> >     TIA and have a great day
> >         Rob
> > _______________________________________________
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site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
> >
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Hi rev:
Unfortunately moving up to YDL 4 will not be so simple with
the  
hardware you have.  You will have to change your BootX
settings  
specifically for YDL 4; it may be best to follow the
instructions  
discussed here:

http:/
/yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249

You can also go to to this link on Google for other topics
related to  
this problem:

http://www.google.com/search?q=BootX%2C+YD
L+4.0&start=0&ie=utf 
-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official

Best wishes....

On Jan 21, 2006, at 6:31 PM, rev rob wrote:

> THANK YOU so much for your help and time.
>   i tried:
>      tail -f /var/log/messages
> and it seems my kernel doesn't support usb devices. So
I'm downloading
> the iso's for ydl 4.0.
> I'll try that and keep you informed on my progress.
>  Again thanks so much
>      rob
>
> On 1/21/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi rev:
>> I'll assume you read and had no trouble
understanding the previous
>> links I recommended to you.  From there once your
drive is mounted all
>> you need to do is use pdisk to wipe out/erase your
USB drive so that  
>> it
>> is formated for use as a LInux drive.  That's it,
of course you are
>> clear that you'll have to set mount points for the
USB drive, a name
>> and create a directory within /mnt using that same
name.  So let's say
>> the name you choose is charles. Then:
>>
>> # cd /mnt
>> # mkdir charles
>>
>>  From then on when you mount that drive you can do:
>>
>> # mount /mnt/charles
>>
>> and that should be it.
>>
>> Best wishes...
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, rev rob wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again and special thanks to Derick,
>>>  I'm running YDL 3.01 on my iMac 233 with
kernel 2.4.22. I want to   
>>> an
>>> external usb drive I have for more storage
since the internal iMac
>>> drive is only 4.3G. The drive has some things
on it from os x that I
>>> know longer need. What do I have to do make
this USB drive work with
>>> my linux box?
>>>     TIA and have a great day
>>>         Rob
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> yellowdog-general mailing list
>>> yellowdog-generallists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listi
nfo/yellowdog- 
>>> general
>>> HINT: to Google archives, try 
'<keywords>  
>>> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
>>>
>>
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Thanks again, Derick.
   The move to 4.0 went  well on the iMac 233. Granted it
took a
little bit of time with the speed of the processor and all.
But all in
all, very smooth. Can't get the screen centered though, it's
a little
too far left.
  I tried to mount the usb drive like this after making the
folder sam

 mount  /dev/sda1 hfsplus /mnt/sam
 and
 mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt/sam

neither worked. It said hfsplus was not supported by the
kernel.

 Also I tried pdisk. It seems like a nice app but I don't
know about
block and length settings.
   So I reformatted the using os x as Mac os extended (not
journeled).
Hey just a thought but can use disk utility to format the
drive to
something ydl will be able to mount? Also, I have a machine
running
OS9, could I do something with Drive Setup?
   Thanks
      rob
On 1/22/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
> Hi rev:
> Unfortunately moving up to YDL 4 will not be so simple
with the
> hardware you have.  You will have to change your BootX
settings
> specifically for YDL 4; it may be best to follow the
instructions
> discussed here:
>
> http:/
/yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249
>
> You can also go to to this link on Google for other
topics related to
> this problem:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=BootX%2C+YD
L+4.0&start=0&ie=utf
>
-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official
>
> Best wishes....
>
> On Jan 21, 2006, at 6:31 PM, rev rob wrote:
>
> > THANK YOU so much for your help and time.
> >   i tried:
> >      tail -f /var/log/messages
> > and it seems my kernel doesn't support usb
devices. So I'm downloading
> > the iso's for ydl 4.0.
> > I'll try that and keep you informed on my
progress.
> >  Again thanks so much
> >      rob
> >
> > On 1/21/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
> >> Hi rev:
> >> I'll assume you read and had no trouble
understanding the previous
> >> links I recommended to you.  From there once
your drive is mounted all
> >> you need to do is use pdisk to wipe out/erase
your USB drive so that
> >> it
> >> is formated for use as a LInux drive.  That's
it, of course you are
> >> clear that you'll have to set mount points for
the USB drive, a name
> >> and create a directory within /mnt using that
same name.  So let's say
> >> the name you choose is charles. Then:
> >>
> >> # cd /mnt
> >> # mkdir charles
> >>
> >>  From then on when you mount that drive you
can do:
> >>
> >> # mount /mnt/charles
> >>
> >> and that should be it.
> >>
> >> Best wishes...
> >>
> >> On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, rev rob wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi again and special thanks to Derick,
> >>>  I'm running YDL 3.01 on my iMac 233 with
kernel 2.4.22. I want to
> >>> an
> >>> external usb drive I have for more storage
since the internal iMac
> >>> drive is only 4.3G. The drive has some
things on it from os x that I
> >>> know longer need. What do I have to do
make this USB drive work with
> >>> my linux box?
> >>>     TIA and have a great day
> >>>         Rob
> >>>
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'<keywords>
> >>> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
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> >>
> >>
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Hi Rev:
I think I mentioned elsewhere that Linux can only read hfs+
and  
read/write hfs.

Refer to:
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/so
lutions/ydl_general/usb- 
device.shtml

pdisk is tricky; you have to learn to think as it does where
each  
sector is 512K blocks.  Also what it refers to as length is
the where  
the mount point begins from one sector to another.  Also you
have to  
remember to convert from blocks to MGs and Gigs.  Of course,
the  
computer can display this automatically, but you won't
understand it  
unless you comprehend the calculations behind the lablels
(and why  
those values are either correct or not).  Indeed,
understanding the  
nuances better enables you to partition your drive more
efficiently as  
well.  You can download the manual for YDL 4.0 and YDL
3.0/3.0.1 which  
discusses a bit about it.  Read as much as you can:

http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/

Unfortunately all any OS X or OS 9 (or any other Apple
utility) can do  
is erase and format the drive either in hfs or free format. 
pdisk and  
another application -- called  parted -- I believe -- can
create the  
ext3 file format Linux understands.  pdisk can write over
hfs or free  
format.  pdisk can read and write to hfs, but there is
little  
usefulness in that as most work will be done in Linux
eventually.

In other words, no Apple utility can create or read ext3
file format  
which Linux uses.  You will just have to dive into Linux and
"let go"  
of Apple utilities.  It can be done.... trust the Force,
Rev. 

Best wishes...


On Jan 22, 2006, at 7:59 PM, rev rob wrote:

> Thanks again, Derick.
>    The move to 4.0 went  well on the iMac 233. Granted
it took a
> little bit of time with the speed of the processor and
all. But all in
> all, very smooth. Can't get the screen centered though,
it's a little
> too far left.
>   I tried to mount the usb drive like this after making
the folder sam
>
>  mount  /dev/sda1 hfsplus /mnt/sam
>  and
>  mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt/sam
>
> neither worked. It said hfsplus was not supported by
the kernel.
>
>  Also I tried pdisk. It seems like a nice app but I
don't know about
> block and length settings.
>    So I reformatted the using os x as Mac os extended
(not journeled).
> Hey just a thought but can use disk utility to format
the drive to
> something ydl will be able to mount? Also, I have a
machine running
> OS9, could I do something with Drive Setup?
>    Thanks
>       rob
> On 1/22/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi rev:
>> Unfortunately moving up to YDL 4 will not be so
simple with the
>> hardware you have.  You will have to change your
BootX settings
>> specifically for YDL 4; it may be best to follow
the instructions
>> discussed here:
>>
>> http:/
/yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249
>>
>> You can also go to to this link on Google for other
topics related to
>> this problem:
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=BootX%2C+YD
L+4.0&start=0&ie=utf
>>
-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official
>>
>> Best wishes....
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 6:31 PM, rev rob wrote:
>>
>>> THANK YOU so much for your help and time.
>>>   i tried:
>>>      tail -f /var/log/messages
>>> and it seems my kernel doesn't support usb
devices. So I'm  
>>> downloading
>>> the iso's for ydl 4.0.
>>> I'll try that and keep you informed on my
progress.
>>>  Again thanks so much
>>>      rob
>>>
>>> On 1/21/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi rev:
>>>> I'll assume you read and had no trouble
understanding the previous
>>>> links I recommended to you.  From there
once your drive is mounted  
>>>> all
>>>> you need to do is use pdisk to wipe
out/erase your USB drive so that
>>>> it
>>>> is formated for use as a LInux drive. 
That's it, of course you are
>>>> clear that you'll have to set mount points
for the USB drive, a name
>>>> and create a directory within /mnt using
that same name.  So let's  
>>>> say
>>>> the name you choose is charles. Then:
>>>>
>>>> # cd /mnt
>>>> # mkdir charles
>>>>
>>>>  From then on when you mount that drive you
can do:
>>>>
>>>> # mount /mnt/charles
>>>>
>>>> and that should be it.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes...
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, rev rob wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi again and special thanks to Derick,
>>>>>  I'm running YDL 3.01 on my iMac 233
with kernel 2.4.22. I want to
>>>>> an
>>>>> external usb drive I have for more
storage since the internal iMac
>>>>> drive is only 4.3G. The drive has some
things on it from os x that  
>>>>> I
>>>>> know longer need. What do I have to do
make this USB drive work  
>>>>> with
>>>>> my linux box?
>>>>>     TIA and have a great day
>>>>>         Rob
>>>>>
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'<keywords>
>>>>> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
>>>>>
>>>>
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On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

>
> I think I mentioned elsewhere that Linux can only read
hfs+ and  
> read/write hfs.


Not true.  yum install hfsplusutils
I had no problems mounting hfs+ volumes rw under ydl4.
This thread discusses a problem that may arise, but it
doesn't  
destroy data:
http://www.mai
l-archive.com/yellowdog- 
generallists.terrasoftsolutions.com/msg02272.html

Also, http://sourc
eforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/ provides support for  
ext2 volumes under 10.3
and prior version of OS X (tiger support is still coming).

If Rob wants to use a GUI to partition, I'd use Disk Utility
and  
mount it under linux using
the hfsplusutils.  Does YDL4 have a similar GUI tool?  If it
does, it  
might be best to use
neither hfs+ or ext2.  IMO, the most tested fs to use for
cross- 
platform support is fat32 (vfat).
The tools for working with it are very robust under both OS
X and PPC  
Linux.  The hfs+ or ext2 utils
I mention in the previous paragraphs have had nowhere near
the same  
amount of usage.

As with everything, let the nuances of the situation dictate
the  
solution.  ymmv.  g'luck Rob.

hth,
JL




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Hi Rev:
I have to correct myself.  pdisk defines each sector block
as 512  
bytes, not 512K bytes.  You can read more details here:

http://www.cy
berflunk.com/ans/0115.html

http://www.google.com/search?q=pdisk+block
+size&start=0&ie=utf 
-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official

The "base" is where the mount point for a sector
begins; the length is  
the amount of blocks in that sector.

Best wishes...
On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

> Hi Rev:
> I think I mentioned elsewhere that Linux can only read
hfs+ and  
> read/write hfs.
>
> Refer to:
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/so
lutions/ydl_general/usb- 
> device.shtml
>
> pdisk is tricky; you have to learn to think as it does
where each  
> sector is 512K blocks.  Also what it refers to as
length is the where  
> the mount point begins from one sector to another. 
Also you have to  
> remember to convert from blocks to MGs and Gigs.  Of
course, the  
> computer can display this automatically, but you won't
understand it  
> unless you comprehend the calculations behind the
lablels (and why  
> those values are either correct or not).  Indeed,
understanding the  
> nuances better enables you to partition your drive more
efficiently as  
> well.  You can download the manual for YDL 4.0 and YDL
3.0/3.0.1 which  
> discusses a bit about it.  Read as much as you can:
>
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/
>
> Unfortunately all any OS X or OS 9 (or any other Apple
utility) can do  
> is erase and format the drive either in hfs or free
format.  pdisk and  
> another application -- called  parted -- I believe --
can create the  
> ext3 file format Linux understands.  pdisk can write
over hfs or free  
> format.  pdisk can read and write to hfs, but there is
little  
> usefulness in that as most work will be done in Linux
eventually.
>
> In other words, no Apple utility can create or read
ext3 file format  
> which Linux uses.  You will just have to dive into
Linux and "let go"  
> of Apple utilities.  It can be done.... trust the
Force, Rev. 
>
> Best wishes...
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2006, at 7:59 PM, rev rob wrote:
>
>> Thanks again, Derick.
>>    The move to 4.0 went  well on the iMac 233.
Granted it took a
>> little bit of time with the speed of the processor
and all. But all in
>> all, very smooth. Can't get the screen centered
though, it's a little
>> too far left.
>>   I tried to mount the usb drive like this after
making the folder sam
>>
>>  mount  /dev/sda1 hfsplus /mnt/sam
>>  and
>>  mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt/sam
>>
>> neither worked. It said hfsplus was not supported
by the kernel.
>>
>>  Also I tried pdisk. It seems like a nice app but I
don't know about
>> block and length settings.
>>    So I reformatted the using os x as Mac os
extended (not journeled).
>> Hey just a thought but can use disk utility to
format the drive to
>> something ydl will be able to mount? Also, I have a
machine running
>> OS9, could I do something with Drive Setup?
>>    Thanks
>>       rob
>> On 1/22/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
>>> Hi rev:
>>> Unfortunately moving up to YDL 4 will not be so
simple with the
>>> hardware you have.  You will have to change
your BootX settings
>>> specifically for YDL 4; it may be best to
follow the instructions
>>> discussed here:
>>>
>>> http:/
/yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249
>>>
>>> You can also go to to this link on Google for
other topics related to
>>> this problem:
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=BootX%2C+YD
L+4.0&start=0&ie=utf
>>>
-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official
>>>
>>> Best wishes....
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 6:31 PM, rev rob wrote:
>>>
>>>> THANK YOU so much for your help and time.
>>>>   i tried:
>>>>      tail -f /var/log/messages
>>>> and it seems my kernel doesn't support usb
devices. So I'm  
>>>> downloading
>>>> the iso's for ydl 4.0.
>>>> I'll try that and keep you informed on my
progress.
>>>>  Again thanks so much
>>>>      rob
>>>>
>>>> On 1/21/06, Derick Centeno
<aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi rev:
>>>>> I'll assume you read and had no trouble
understanding the previous
>>>>> links I recommended to you.  From there
once your drive is mounted  
>>>>> all
>>>>> you need to do is use pdisk to wipe
out/erase your USB drive so  
>>>>> that
>>>>> it
>>>>> is formated for use as a LInux drive. 
That's it, of course you are
>>>>> clear that you'll have to set mount
points for the USB drive, a  
>>>>> name
>>>>> and create a directory within /mnt
using that same name.  So let's  
>>>>> say
>>>>> the name you choose is charles. Then:
>>>>>
>>>>> # cd /mnt
>>>>> # mkdir charles
>>>>>
>>>>>  From then on when you mount that drive
you can do:
>>>>>
>>>>> # mount /mnt/charles
>>>>>
>>>>> and that should be it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, rev rob
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi again and special thanks to
Derick,
>>>>>>  I'm running YDL 3.01 on my iMac
233 with kernel 2.4.22. I want to
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> external usb drive I have for more
storage since the internal iMac
>>>>>> drive is only 4.3G. The drive has
some things on it from os x  
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> know longer need. What do I have to
do make this USB drive work  
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> my linux box?
>>>>>>     TIA and have a great day
>>>>>>         Rob
>>>>>>
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OK
  Derick, you're right, I should learn this because I'm
using linux.
With Linux I should use linux and with Mac os (9 os X) I
should use
the Mac os(s). That said:
 I dove right on it. Pdisk, that is. Here is what I have now
after
deleting a few other partitions on the drive, creating a new
partition
with the  c  command. I tried to  i  the partition map but
it remains
the same

Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/sda'
 #:                type name      length   base      ( size
)
 1: Apple_partition_map Apple         63  1
 2:     Apple_UNIX_SVR2 sam    120103136  64      
 ( 57.3G)

Device block size=512, Number of Blocks=120103200 (57.3G)
DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0

Command (? for help):

I know there is a way for me to specify a certain file
system with "C"
command. I tried ext3 and that would not let me mount it. (A
little on
the mount. I created a directory in mnt called sam. So I
think my
mount command should be   mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sam  Is this
right?)
I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. Yes, I have an Apple
partition
map which I tried to initialize with the pdisk command
"i" then I
wrote it with "w". For the Apple unix svr
partition, I "c" ed that
one.
  pdisk is really cool and very fast. I think I must be
missing
something but don't know what.
 Also, thanks for the lil boost  for me sitting down and
working with
pdisk rather than look for a workaround
     Thanks again
On 1/23/06, Jurvis LaSalle <lasallebard.edu> wrote:
>
> On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:
>
> >
> > I think I mentioned elsewhere that Linux can only
read hfs+ and
> > read/write hfs.
>
>
> Not true.  yum install hfsplusutils
> I had no problems mounting hfs+ volumes rw under ydl4.

This looks really good for mounting other drives I have that
are HFS+
 Thank you so much, Jurvis
> This thread discusses a problem that may arise, but it
doesn't
> destroy data:
> http://www.mai
l-archive.com/yellowdog-
> generallists.terrasoftsolutions.com/msg02272.html
>
> Also, http://sourc
eforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/ provides support for
> ext2 volumes under 10.3
> and prior version of OS X (tiger support is still
coming).
>
> If Rob wants to use a GUI to partition, I'd use Disk
Utility and
> mount it under linux using
> the hfsplusutils.  Does YDL4 have a similar GUI tool? 
If it does, it
> might be best to use
> neither hfs+ or ext2.  IMO, the most tested fs to use
for cross-
> platform support is fat32 (vfat).
> The tools for working with it are very robust under
both OS X and PPC
> Linux.  The hfs+ or ext2 utils
> I mention in the previous paragraphs have had nowhere
near the same
> amount of usage.
>
> As with everything, let the nuances of the situation
dictate the
> solution.  ymmv.  g'luck Rob.
>
> hth,
> JL
  Thanks
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Hey thanks for clearing that up. But I think I sorta knew
what you
meant. It seems with the print command in pdisk all the
correct
numbers are listed and I don't have to count them.
pdisk handles that very nicely
   Thanks again for your time and all your help.

On 1/23/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Rev:
> I have to correct myself.  pdisk defines each sector
block as 512
> bytes, not 512K bytes.  You can read more details here:
>
> http://www.cy
berflunk.com/ans/0115.html
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=pdisk+block
+size&start=0&ie=utf
>
-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official
>
> The "base" is where the mount point for a
sector begins; the length is
> the amount of blocks in that sector.
>
> Best wishes...
> On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:
>
> > Hi Rev:
> > I think I mentioned elsewhere that Linux can only
read hfs+ and
> > read/write hfs.
> >
> > Refer to:
> > http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/so
lutions/ydl_general/usb-
> > device.shtml
> >
> > pdisk is tricky; you have to learn to think as it
does where each
> > sector is 512K blocks.  Also what it refers to as
length is the where
> > the mount point begins from one sector to another.
 Also you have to
> > remember to convert from blocks to MGs and Gigs. 
Of course, the
> > computer can display this automatically, but you
won't understand it
> > unless you comprehend the calculations behind the
lablels (and why
> > those values are either correct or not).  Indeed,
understanding the
> > nuances better enables you to partition your drive
more efficiently as
> > well.  You can download the manual for YDL 4.0 and
YDL 3.0/3.0.1 which
> > discusses a bit about it.  Read as much as you
can:
> >
> > http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/
> >
> > Unfortunately all any OS X or OS 9 (or any other
Apple utility) can do
> > is erase and format the drive either in hfs or
free format.  pdisk and
> > another application -- called  parted -- I believe
-- can create the
> > ext3 file format Linux understands.  pdisk can
write over hfs or free
> > format.  pdisk can read and write to hfs, but
there is little
> > usefulness in that as most work will be done in
Linux eventually.
> >
> > In other words, no Apple utility can create or
read ext3 file format
> > which Linux uses.  You will just have to dive into
Linux and "let go"
> > of Apple utilities.  It can be done.... trust the
Force, Rev. 
> >
> > Best wishes...
> >
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2006, at 7:59 PM, rev rob wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks again, Derick.
> >>    The move to 4.0 went  well on the iMac 233.
Granted it took a
> >> little bit of time with the speed of the
processor and all. But all in
> >> all, very smooth. Can't get the screen
centered though, it's a little
> >> too far left.
> >>   I tried to mount the usb drive like this
after making the folder sam
> >>
> >>  mount  /dev/sda1 hfsplus /mnt/sam
> >>  and
> >>  mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt/sam
> >>
> >> neither worked. It said hfsplus was not
supported by the kernel.
> >>
> >>  Also I tried pdisk. It seems like a nice app
but I don't know about
> >> block and length settings.
> >>    So I reformatted the using os x as Mac os
extended (not journeled).
> >> Hey just a thought but can use disk utility to
format the drive to
> >> something ydl will be able to mount? Also, I
have a machine running
> >> OS9, could I do something with Drive Setup?
> >>    Thanks
> >>       rob
> >> On 1/22/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
> >>> Hi rev:
> >>> Unfortunately moving up to YDL 4 will not
be so simple with the
> >>> hardware you have.  You will have to
change your BootX settings
> >>> specifically for YDL 4; it may be best to
follow the instructions
> >>> discussed here:
> >>>
> >>> http:/
/yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249
> >>>
> >>> You can also go to to this link on Google
for other topics related to
> >>> this problem:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.google.com/search?q=BootX%2C+YD
L+4.0&start=0&ie=utf
> >>>
-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes....
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 6:31 PM, rev rob
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> THANK YOU so much for your help and
time.
> >>>>   i tried:
> >>>>      tail -f /var/log/messages
> >>>> and it seems my kernel doesn't support
usb devices. So I'm
> >>>> downloading
> >>>> the iso's for ydl 4.0.
> >>>> I'll try that and keep you informed on
my progress.
> >>>>  Again thanks so much
> >>>>      rob
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/21/06, Derick Centeno
<aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi rev:
> >>>>> I'll assume you read and had no
trouble understanding the previous
> >>>>> links I recommended to you.  From
there once your drive is mounted
> >>>>> all
> >>>>> you need to do is use pdisk to
wipe out/erase your USB drive so
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> is formated for use as a LInux
drive.  That's it, of course you are
> >>>>> clear that you'll have to set
mount points for the USB drive, a
> >>>>> name
> >>>>> and create a directory within /mnt
using that same name.  So let's
> >>>>> say
> >>>>> the name you choose is charles.
Then:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # cd /mnt
> >>>>> # mkdir charles
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  From then on when you mount that
drive you can do:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # mount /mnt/charles
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and that should be it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best wishes...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, rev
rob wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi again and special thanks to
Derick,
> >>>>>>  I'm running YDL 3.01 on my
iMac 233 with kernel 2.4.22. I want to
> >>>>>> an
> >>>>>> external usb drive I have for
more storage since the internal iMac
> >>>>>> drive is only 4.3G. The drive
has some things on it from os x
> >>>>>> that I
> >>>>>> know longer need. What do I
have to do make this USB drive work
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> my linux box?
> >>>>>>     TIA and have a great day
> >>>>>>         Rob
> >>>>>>
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