mp3 player

Hello again all
  Thanks to everyone for there wonderful help with my last
trouble
with the USB drive.
 I have a new question about mp3 files. Are there any linux
gui apps
usable with ydl that will play mp3 files? I have installed
mpg123 but
am confused with the correct usage of  the command line.
Also, I'd
really just like a GUI mp3 player. I realise there are
issues with
patents and licenses concerning mp3's but is that over yet?

     TIA
        rob
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Hi Rev:
It's great to hear about your success!

Regarding playing mp3 and other music files, you may also be
interested 
in images matched to the music which is being played.  There
are 
different open source applications available which do this;
however 
there are none as flexible or sophisticated as the project
known as 
xine (http://xinehq.de/).

Check and see if it is already part of your version of YDL;
if not, 
then use yum to install it for you:

# yum search xine

then if yum finds it:

# yum install xine*

Note: the star following the e tells the computer to install
any 
additional files associated with xine.

When you finally open xine the selection for gui's are
literally 
astounding.  However, embedded in the menu is an option
called GOOM.  
Select to activate that and you'll discover what a xine has
many, many 
fans.  I'm convinced that GOOM is implemented within Apple's
iTune's, 
they are just not going to admit it to anyone.

Best wishes...

On Feb 1, 2006, at 10:19 PM, rev rob wrote:

> Hello again all
>   Thanks to everyone for there wonderful help with my
last trouble
> with the USB drive.
>  I have a new question about mp3 files. Are there any
linux gui apps
> usable with ydl that will play mp3 files? I have
installed mpg123 but
> am confused with the correct usage of  the command
line. Also, I'd
> really just like a GUI mp3 player. I realise there are
issues with
> patents and licenses concerning mp3's but is that over
yet?
>
>      TIA
>         rob
========================
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over."
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travel to 
England due to his lack of familiarity with the language.

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On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Derick Centeno wrote:

>  I'm convinced that GOOM is implemented within Apple's
iTune's, they 
> are just not going to admit it to anyone.
>

I'm convinced that you are mistaken once again.  
http://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundSpectrum

Maybe, just maybe you saw someome who had installed the GOOM
plugin for 
iTunes...

htsys,
JL

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Of course, it is easy to be mistaken as no one really knows
what Apple 
is doing.

However, my guess or rather why I came to believe that GOOM
is 
implemented within iTunes, is based upon how the visual
portion of 
iTunes behaves when the visualization feature which adapts
images to 
music spontaneously is activated.   My "guess" is
based upon long 
observation of how GOOM behaves within xine within the YDL
environment 
as far back when YDL was in version 2.0.  I didn't discover
iTunes and 
it's visualization feature until I received a powerbook as a
gift last 
year and ran OS X.  I was able to recognize certain
commonalities in 
how the visualization engine behaved, my "guess"
is based on those 
observations.  And Jurvis it's really ok to be wrong now and
then ... 
you do know that Wikipedia is hardly the bedrock of accurate

information... right?  Wikipedia is however functional as a
cheap and 
fast lookup when one doesn't have access to a quality and
authoritative 
encyclopedic tome such as Britannica or other world class
encyclopedic 
reference.

Check this out:

h
ttp://www.ios-software.com/?page=projet&quoi=1

I'm sure you'll have better luck, next time..

Always, fondly....DC

To answer your other question, or implied question, I don't
work for 
Apple and really have no way of knowing what they installed
or how 
apart from carefully observing how the software in question
(here 
iTunes) behaves when it is activated to visualize music or
present 
images which "move to music".  As I explained, my
success in this 
situation (the guess I made) stems from very close
observation of how 
software behaves and what is implemented when.

Ciao!!

On Feb 2, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jurvis LaSalle wrote:

>
> On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Derick Centeno wrote:
>
>>  I'm convinced that GOOM is implemented within
Apple's iTune's, they 
>> are just not going to admit it to anyone.
>>
>
> I'm convinced that you are mistaken once again.  
> http://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundSpectrum
>
> Maybe, just maybe you saw someome who had installed the
GOOM plugin 
> for iTunes...
>
> htsys,
> JL
>


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"We are all 
related".

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On 2/2/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojoverizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Rev:
> It's great to hear about your success!
>
> Regarding playing mp3 and other music files, you may
also be interested
> in images matched to the music which is being played. 
There are
> different open source applications available which do
this; however
> there are none as flexible or sophisticated as the
project known as
> xine (http://xinehq.de/).
>
> Check and see if it is already part of your version of
YDL; if not,
> then use yum to install it for you:
>
> # yum search xine
>
> then if yum finds it:
>
> # yum install xine*
>
> Note: the star following the e tells the computer to
install any
> additional files associated with xine.
>
> When you finally open xine the selection for gui's are
literally
> astounding.  However, embedded in the menu is an option
called GOOM.
> Select to activate that and you'll discover what a xine
has many, many
> fans.  I'm convinced that GOOM is implemented within
Apple's iTune's,
> they are just not going to admit it to anyone.
>
> Best wishes...
>
Thanks again for your help, Derick. Xine is not part of my
system and
yum does not have it.
 Is this because I'm running ydl 4.0?
 I'll see if I can find the ppc.rpm version and then
hopefully install xine.
 I did find xine for OS X. You're right, it is very nice and
real good-looking
    Thanks
        rRob

> On Feb 1, 2006, at 10:19 PM, rev rob wrote:
>
> > Hello again all
> >   Thanks to everyone for there wonderful help with
my last trouble
> > with the USB drive.
> >  I have a new question about mp3 files. Are there
any linux gui apps
> > usable with ydl that will play mp3 files? I have
installed mpg123 but
> > am confused with the correct usage of  the command
line. Also, I'd
> > really just like a GUI mp3 player. I realise there
are issues with
> > patents and licenses concerning mp3's but is that
over yet?
> >
> >      TIA
> >         rob
> ========================
> "The language I speak is understood the world
over."
> -- Joseph Haydn replying to Mozart's request that Haydn
not travel to
> England due to his lack of familiarity with the
language.
>
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> Thanks again for your help, Derick. Xine is not part of
my system and
> yum does not have it.
>  Is this because I'm running ydl 4.0?
>  I'll see if I can find the ppc.rpm version and then
hopefully install 
> xine.
>  I did find xine for OS X. You're right, it is very
nice and real 
> good-looking
>     Thanks
>         rRob

Hi Rev:
Does your yum.conf point to current freshrpms?  I'm sure
that such 
respositories (for yum) would be more efficient for you as
opposed to 
you collecting the required rpms and installing them one by
one 
yourself.  Of course, knowing how to do such things is
fundamental in 
Linux -- there really is no such thing in Linux/Unix as a
useless 
skill.

Here's the link for the ppc version; by the way you, when
you visit 
there and discover where their rpms are located you could
set yum.conf 
to point there as well as anywhere else which interests you
as a 
resource:

http://packman.links2l
inux.de/

Best wishes....

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Derick,

	You have made me more upset with your last email than any
anonymous 
internet persona has in my few years on the net.  Your
willful 
spreading of misinformation (and the smug tone you take when
you 
falsely believe you are correct) incenses me greatly.  I
have gone 
through several revisions of this response, attempting to
tone down the 
venom and leave just constructive information.  Forgive me
if I go 
astray here or there at some point.  Like I said, my utter
failure to 
educate you has had me seeing red this morning.  Let's
begin...

	I realize that wikipedia doesn't have a sterling
reputation.  I very 
well could have put that information there to make you look
wrong.  If 
you check the history page, you can see I obviously didn't. 
But if you 
believe this wiki page to be a hoax because you
"guessed" that Apple 
ripped off GOOM based on similar behavior, you are
incorrect.  Similar 
solutions to the same problem is only correlation, not
causation.  
Furthermore, if you had even followed your own link, you
would have 
found that the software that you link to is a plugin for
iTunes- NOT 
the included iTunes visualizer.
  "iGoom is a wonderful visual effect plug-in for
iTunes for Mac OS X. A 
mac standalone version is now also available. This is the
Mac version 
of Goom, originally written by Jean-Christophe Hoelt
"jeko" 
(jekoios-software.com) and ported to iTunes by Guillaume
Borios "gyom" 
(gyomios-software.com)"

	However, your assertion that we won't have any more proof
than your 
"successful guess" is also wrong.  Apple has
licensed the software and 
credited its developers.	If you're booted into  Mac OS X,
launch 
iTunes, select iTunes -> About iTunes from the menu and
read from whom 
they licensed their visualization engine.  If you're in YDL,
mount your 
OS X partition, navigate to 
/<osx-mnt-pt>/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resourc
es/ .  Open 
Localized.rsrc- it's a binary file, so I recommend you use
the strings 
utility piped to less to get the info.  You will find this
text string 
in the file: 'G-Force visualization engine licensed from
Whitecap 
Technologies, Inc.'  If you surf here: 
http://www.so
undspectrum.com/about.html (the very website linked from

that "dubious" wiki page), you can read that
Whitecap Technologies, 
Inc. (now SoundSpectrum, Inc.) is indeed the heart of iTunes

visualization.
	QED.

	Far from suspecting you work for Apple, I read your initial
post and 
saw an accusation of GPL violations- defamation in a word. 
Not 
something an Apple employee would do lightly.  More akin to
the 
careless words of linux zealot.  Indeed, it is your careless
choice of 
words and incessant posting that has driven me to hound
every 
misstatement you make.  You must take more care to help
build up 
knowledge or else this list and it's newer members will find
themselves 
on a shaky foundation.  It is OK to be wrong once in a
while, but you 
post so much and are wrong or misleading far too often for
me to stand 
idly by.

Have a nice weekend,
Jurvis LaSalle

ps no world class encyclopedic reference will ever have an
entry on 
such a trivial topic.  wiki + references is the best we have
atm.

On Feb 2, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

> Of course, it is easy to be mistaken as no one really
knows what Apple 
> is doing.
>
> However, my guess or rather why I came to believe that
GOOM is 
> implemented within iTunes, is based upon how the visual
portion of 
> iTunes behaves when the visualization feature which
adapts images to 
> music spontaneously is activated.   My
"guess" is based upon long 
> observation of how GOOM behaves within xine within the
YDL environment 
> as far back when YDL was in version 2.0.  I didn't
discover iTunes and 
> it's visualization feature until I received a powerbook
as a gift last 
> year and ran OS X.  I was able to recognize certain
commonalities in 
> how the visualization engine behaved, my
"guess" is based on those 
> observations.  And Jurvis it's really ok to be wrong
now and then ... 
> you do know that Wikipedia is hardly the bedrock of
accurate 
> information... right?  Wikipedia is however functional
as a cheap and 
> fast lookup when one doesn't have access to a quality
and 
> authoritative encyclopedic tome such as Britannica or
other world 
> class encyclopedic reference.
>
> Check this out:
>
> h
ttp://www.ios-software.com/?page=projet&quoi=1
>
> I'm sure you'll have better luck, next time..
>
> Always, fondly....DC
>
> To answer your other question, or implied question, I
don't work for 
> Apple and really have no way of knowing what they
installed or how 
> apart from carefully observing how the software in
question (here 
> iTunes) behaves when it is activated to visualize music
or present 
> images which "move to music".  As I
explained, my success in this 
> situation (the guess I made) stems from very close
observation of how 
> software behaves and what is implemented when.
>
> Ciao!!
>
> On Feb 2, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jurvis LaSalle wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Derick Centeno wrote:
>>
>>>  I'm convinced that GOOM is implemented within
Apple's iTune's, they 
>>> are just not going to admit it to anyone.
>>>
>>
>> I'm convinced that you are mistaken once again.  
>> http://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundSpectrum
>>
>> Maybe, just maybe you saw someome who had installed
the GOOM plugin 
>> for iTunes...
>>
>> htsys,
>> JL
>>
>
>
> ===============
> Mitakuye Oyasin -- A saying of the Lakota Sioux meaning
"We are all 
> related".
>
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Derick,
  I find adding more url's to yum.conf file fascinating.
What a great idea!
I went to the yum website and tried to understand all the
necessary
things to edit my
yum.conf file. Could you please send me a copy of your
yum.conf file
so I may find my error. I'll send mine in the following
e-mail
   Thanks again
      rRob

On 2/3/06, Jurvis LaSalle <lasallebard.edu> wrote:
> Derick,
>
>         You have made me more upset with your last
email than any anonymous
> internet persona has in my few years on the net.  Your
willful
> spreading of misinformation (and the smug tone you take
when you
> falsely believe you are correct) incenses me greatly. 
I have gone
> through several revisions of this response, attempting
to tone down the
> venom and leave just constructive information.  Forgive
me if I go
> astray here or there at some point.  Like I said, my
utter failure to
> educate you has had me seeing red this morning.  Let's
begin...
>
>         I realize that wikipedia doesn't have a
sterling reputation.  I very
> well could have put that information there to make you
look wrong.  If
> you check the history page, you can see I obviously
didn't.  But if you
> believe this wiki page to be a hoax because you
"guessed" that Apple
> ripped off GOOM based on similar behavior, you are
incorrect.  Similar
> solutions to the same problem is only correlation, not
causation.
> Furthermore, if you had even followed your own link,
you would have
> found that the software that you link to is a plugin
for iTunes- NOT
> the included iTunes visualizer.
>   "iGoom is a wonderful visual effect plug-in for
iTunes for Mac OS X. A
> mac standalone version is now also available. This is
the Mac version
> of Goom, originally written by Jean-Christophe Hoelt
"jeko"
> (jekoios-software.com) and ported to iTunes by Guillaume
Borios "gyom"
> (gyomios-software.com)"
>
>         However, your assertion that we won't have any
more proof than your
> "successful guess" is also wrong.  Apple has
licensed the software and
> credited its developers.        If you're booted into 
Mac OS X, launch
> iTunes, select iTunes -> About iTunes from the menu
and read from whom
> they licensed their visualization engine.  If you're in
YDL, mount your
> OS X partition, navigate to
>
/<osx-mnt-pt>/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resourc
es/ .  Open
> Localized.rsrc- it's a binary file, so I recommend you
use the strings
> utility piped to less to get the info.  You will find
this text string
> in the file: 'G-Force visualization engine licensed
from Whitecap
> Technologies, Inc.'  If you surf here:
> http://www.so
undspectrum.com/about.html (the very website linked from
> that "dubious" wiki page), you can read that
Whitecap Technologies,
> Inc. (now SoundSpectrum, Inc.) is indeed the heart of
iTunes
> visualization.
>         QED.
>
>         Far from suspecting you work for Apple, I read
your initial post and
> saw an accusation of GPL violations- defamation in a
word.  Not
> something an Apple employee would do lightly.  More
akin to the
> careless words of linux zealot.  Indeed, it is your
careless choice of
> words and incessant posting that has driven me to hound
every
> misstatement you make.  You must take more care to help
build up
> knowledge or else this list and it's newer members will
find themselves
> on a shaky foundation.  It is OK to be wrong once in a
while, but you
> post so much and are wrong or misleading far too often
for me to stand
> idly by.
>
> Have a nice weekend,
> Jurvis LaSalle
>
> ps no world class encyclopedic reference will ever have
an entry on
> such a trivial topic.  wiki + references is the best we
have atm.
>
> On Feb 2, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:
>
> > Of course, it is easy to be mistaken as no one
really knows what Apple
> > is doing.
> >
> > However, my guess or rather why I came to believe
that GOOM is
> > implemented within iTunes, is based upon how the
visual portion of
> > iTunes behaves when the visualization feature
which adapts images to
> > music spontaneously is activated.   My
"guess" is based upon long
> > observation of how GOOM behaves within xine within
the YDL environment
> > as far back when YDL was in version 2.0.  I didn't
discover iTunes and
> > it's visualization feature until I received a
powerbook as a gift last
> > year and ran OS X.  I was able to recognize
certain commonalities in
> > how the visualization engine behaved, my
"guess" is based on those
> > observations.  And Jurvis it's really ok to be
wrong now and then ...
> > you do know that Wikipedia is hardly the bedrock
of accurate
> > information... right?  Wikipedia is however
functional as a cheap and
> > fast lookup when one doesn't have access to a
quality and
> > authoritative encyclopedic tome such as Britannica
or other world
> > class encyclopedic reference.
> >
> > Check this out:
> >
> > h
ttp://www.ios-software.com/?page=projet&quoi=1
> >
> > I'm sure you'll have better luck, next time..
> >
> > Always, fondly....DC
> >
> > To answer your other question, or implied
question, I don't work for
> > Apple and really have no way of knowing what they
installed or how
> > apart from carefully observing how the software in
question (here
> > iTunes) behaves when it is activated to visualize
music or present
> > images which "move to music".  As I
explained, my success in this
> > situation (the guess I made) stems from very close
observation of how
> > software behaves and what is implemented when.
> >
> > Ciao!!
> >
> > On Feb 2, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jurvis LaSalle wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Derick Centeno
wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I'm convinced that GOOM is implemented
within Apple's iTune's, they
> >>> are just not going to admit it to anyone.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'm convinced that you are mistaken once
again.
> >> http://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundSpectrum
> >>
> >> Maybe, just maybe you saw someome who had
installed the GOOM plugin
> >> for iTunes...
> >>
> >> htsys,
> >> JL
> >>
> >
> >
> > ===============
> > Mitakuye Oyasin -- A saying of the Lakota Sioux
meaning "We are all
> > related".
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
>
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here is my edited yum.conf file
 Thanks again
     rRob
[main]
cachedir=/var/cache/yum
debuglevel=2
logfile=/var/log/yum.log
pkgpolicy=newest

[base]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Base
baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/bas
e/

[updates]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Updates
baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/u
pdate/

[extras]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Extras
baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/e
xtras/

[packman]
name=Packman
baseurl=http://packman.links2l
inux.de/


On 2/4/06, rev rob <houseofshamegmail.com> wrote:
> Derick,
>   I find adding more url's to yum.conf file
fascinating. What a great idea!
> I went to the yum website and tried to understand all
the necessary
> things to edit my
> yum.conf file. Could you please send me a copy of your
yum.conf file
> so I may find my error. I'll send mine in the following
e-mail
>    Thanks again
>       rRob
>
> On 2/3/06, Jurvis LaSalle <lasallebard.edu> wrote:
> > Derick,
> >
> >         You have made me more upset with your last
email than any
> anonymous
> > internet persona has in my few years on the net. 
Your willful
> > spreading of misinformation (and the smug tone you
take when you
> > falsely believe you are correct) incenses me
greatly.  I have gone
> > through several revisions of this response,
attempting to tone down the
> > venom and leave just constructive information. 
Forgive me if I go
> > astray here or there at some point.  Like I said,
my utter failure to
> > educate you has had me seeing red this morning. 
Let's begin...
> >
> >         I realize that wikipedia doesn't have a
sterling reputation.  I
> very
> > well could have put that information there to make
you look wrong.  If
> > you check the history page, you can see I
obviously didn't.  But if you
> > believe this wiki page to be a hoax because you
"guessed" that Apple
> > ripped off GOOM based on similar behavior, you are
incorrect.  Similar
> > solutions to the same problem is only correlation,
not causation.
> > Furthermore, if you had even followed your own
link, you would have
> > found that the software that you link to is a
plugin for iTunes- NOT
> > the included iTunes visualizer.
> >   "iGoom is a wonderful visual effect plug-in
for iTunes for Mac OS X. A
> > mac standalone version is now also available. This
is the Mac version
> > of Goom, originally written by Jean-Christophe
Hoelt "jeko"
> > (jekoios-software.com) and ported to iTunes by
Guillaume Borios "gyom"
> > (gyomios-software.com)"
> >
> >         However, your assertion that we won't have
any more proof than
> your
> > "successful guess" is also wrong.  Apple
has licensed the software and
> > credited its developers.        If you're booted
into  Mac OS X, launch
> > iTunes, select iTunes -> About iTunes from the
menu and read from whom
> > they licensed their visualization engine.  If
you're in YDL, mount your
> > OS X partition, navigate to
> >
/<osx-mnt-pt>/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resourc
es/ .  Open
> > Localized.rsrc- it's a binary file, so I recommend
you use the strings
> > utility piped to less to get the info.  You will
find this text string
> > in the file: 'G-Force visualization engine
licensed from Whitecap
> > Technologies, Inc.'  If you surf here:
> > http://www.so
undspectrum.com/about.html (the very website linked from
> > that "dubious" wiki page), you can read
that Whitecap Technologies,
> > Inc. (now SoundSpectrum, Inc.) is indeed the heart
of iTunes
> > visualization.
> >         QED.
> >
> >         Far from suspecting you work for Apple, I
read your initial post
> and
> > saw an accusation of GPL violations- defamation in
a word.  Not
> > something an Apple employee would do lightly. 
More akin to the
> > careless words of linux zealot.  Indeed, it is
your careless choice of
> > words and incessant posting that has driven me to
hound every
> > misstatement you make.  You must take more care to
help build up
> > knowledge or else this list and it's newer members
will find themselves
> > on a shaky foundation.  It is OK to be wrong once
in a while, but you
> > post so much and are wrong or misleading far too
often for me to stand
> > idly by.
> >
> > Have a nice weekend,
> > Jurvis LaSalle
> >
> > ps no world class encyclopedic reference will ever
have an entry on
> > such a trivial topic.  wiki + references is the
best we have atm.
> >
> > On Feb 2, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:
> >
> > > Of course, it is easy to be mistaken as no
one really knows what Apple
> > > is doing.
> > >
> > > However, my guess or rather why I came to
believe that GOOM is
> > > implemented within iTunes, is based upon how
the visual portion of
> > > iTunes behaves when the visualization feature
which adapts images to
> > > music spontaneously is activated.   My
"guess" is based upon long
> > > observation of how GOOM behaves within xine
within the YDL environment
> > > as far back when YDL was in version 2.0.  I
didn't discover iTunes and
> > > it's visualization feature until I received a
powerbook as a gift last
> > > year and ran OS X.  I was able to recognize
certain commonalities in
> > > how the visualization engine behaved, my
"guess" is based on those
> > > observations.  And Jurvis it's really ok to
be wrong now and then ...
> > > you do know that Wikipedia is hardly the
bedrock of accurate
> > > information... right?  Wikipedia is however
functional as a cheap and
> > > fast lookup when one doesn't have access to a
quality and
> > > authoritative encyclopedic tome such as
Britannica or other world
> > > class encyclopedic reference.
> > >
> > > Check this out:
> > >
> > > h
ttp://www.ios-software.com/?page=projet&quoi=1
> > >
> > > I'm sure you'll have better luck, next time..
> > >
> > > Always, fondly....DC
> > >
> > > To answer your other question, or implied
question, I don't work for
> > > Apple and really have no way of knowing what
they installed or how
> > > apart from carefully observing how the
software in question (here
> > > iTunes) behaves when it is activated to
visualize music or present
> > > images which "move to music".  As I
explained, my success in this
> > > situation (the guess I made) stems from very
close observation of how
> > > software behaves and what is implemented
when.
> > >
> > > Ciao!!
> > >
> > > On Feb 2, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jurvis LaSalle
wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Derick
Centeno wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>  I'm convinced that GOOM is
implemented within Apple's iTune's, they
> > >>> are just not going to admit it to
anyone.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> I'm convinced that you are mistaken once
again.
> > >> http://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundSpectrum
> > >>
> > >> Maybe, just maybe you saw someome who had
installed the GOOM plugin
> > >> for iTunes...
> > >>
> > >> htsys,
> > >> JL
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > ===============
> > > Mitakuye Oyasin -- A saying of the Lakota
Sioux meaning "We are all
> > > related".
> > >
> > >
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n/listinfo/yellowdog-general
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'<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
> >
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OK this is so solved for now. Thanks to all again for the
freat help,
as it were.
 I've got both videolan and xine both installed and working
just great!
Also from the howto's on ydl, I have edited my yum.conf to
get rpm's
from fresh rpms. Here's the new yum.conf file

[main]
cachedir=/var/cache/yum
debuglevel=2
logfile=/var/log/yum.log
pkgpolicy=newest

[base]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Base
baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/bas
e/

[updates]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Updates
baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/u
pdate/

[extras]
name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Extras
baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/e
xtras/

[freshrpms]
name=Fresh rpms
baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/yellowdog/4.0/ppc/freshrpms/

Thanks again to all!!!!!

On 2/4/06, rev rob <houseofshamegmail.com> wrote:
> here is my edited yum.conf file
>  Thanks again
>      rRob
> [main]
> cachedir=/var/cache/yum
> debuglevel=2
> logfile=/var/log/yum.log
> pkgpolicy=newest
>
> [base]
> name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Base
> baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/bas
e/
>
> [updates]
> name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Updates
> baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/u
pdate/
>
> [extras]
> name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 Extras
> baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.0/e
xtras/
>
> [packman]
> name=Packman
> baseurl=http://packman.links2l
inux.de/
>
>
> On 2/4/06, rev rob <houseofshamegmail.com> wrote:
> > Derick,
> >   I find adding more url's to yum.conf file
fascinating. What a great idea!
> > I went to the yum website and tried to understand
all the necessary
> > things to edit my
> > yum.conf file. Could you please send me a copy of
your yum.conf file
> > so I may find my error. I'll send mine in the
following e-mail
> >    Thanks again
> >       rRob
> >
> > On 2/3/06, Jurvis LaSalle <lasallebard.edu> wrote:
> > > Derick,
> > >
> > >         You have made me more upset with your
last email than any
> > anonymous
> > > internet persona has in my few years on the
net.  Your willful
> > > spreading of misinformation (and the smug
tone you take when you
> > > falsely believe you are correct) incenses me
greatly.  I have gone
> > > through several revisions of this response,
attempting to tone down the
> > > venom and leave just constructive
information.  Forgive me if I go
> > > astray here or there at some point.  Like I
said, my utter failure to
> > > educate you has had me seeing red this
morning.  Let's begin...
> > >
> > >         I realize that wikipedia doesn't have
a sterling reputation.  I
> > very
> > > well could have put that information there to
make you look wrong.  If
> > > you check the history page, you can see I
obviously didn't.  But if you
> > > believe this wiki page to be a hoax because
you "guessed" that Apple
> > > ripped off GOOM based on similar behavior,
you are incorrect.  Similar
> > > solutions to the same problem is only
correlation, not causation.
> > > Furthermore, if you had even followed your
own link, you would have
> > > found that the software that you link to is a
plugin for iTunes- NOT
> > > the included iTunes visualizer.
> > >   "iGoom is a wonderful visual effect
plug-in for iTunes for Mac OS X. A
> > > mac standalone version is now also available.
This is the Mac version
> > > of Goom, originally written by
Jean-Christophe Hoelt "jeko"
> > > (jekoios-software.com) and ported to iTunes by
Guillaume Borios "gyom"
> > > (gyomios-software.com)"
> > >
> > >         However, your assertion that we won't
have any more proof than
> > your
> > > "successful guess" is also wrong. 
Apple has licensed the software and
> > > credited its developers.        If you're
booted into  Mac OS X, launch
> > > iTunes, select iTunes -> About iTunes from
the menu and read from whom
> > > they licensed their visualization engine.  If
you're in YDL, mount your
> > > OS X partition, navigate to
> > >
/<osx-mnt-pt>/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resourc
es/ .  Open
> > > Localized.rsrc- it's a binary file, so I
recommend you use the strings
> > > utility piped to less to get the info.  You
will find this text string
> > > in the file: 'G-Force visualization engine
licensed from Whitecap
> > > Technologies, Inc.'  If you surf here:
> > > http://www.so
undspectrum.com/about.html (the very website linked from
> > > that "dubious" wiki page), you can
read that Whitecap Technologies,
> > > Inc. (now SoundSpectrum, Inc.) is indeed the
heart of iTunes
> > > visualization.
> > >         QED.
> > >
> > >         Far from suspecting you work for
Apple, I read your initial post
> > and
> > > saw an accusation of GPL violations-
defamation in a word.  Not
> > > something an Apple employee would do lightly.
 More akin to the
> > > careless words of linux zealot.  Indeed, it
is your careless choice of
> > > words and incessant posting that has driven
me to hound every
> > > misstatement you make.  You must take more
care to help build up
> > > knowledge or else this list and it's newer
members will find themselves
> > > on a shaky foundation.  It is OK to be wrong
once in a while, but you
> > > post so much and are wrong or misleading far
too often for me to stand
> > > idly by.
> > >
> > > Have a nice weekend,
> > > Jurvis LaSalle
> > >
> > > ps no world class encyclopedic reference will
ever have an entry on
> > > such a trivial topic.  wiki + references is
the best we have atm.
> > >
> > > On Feb 2, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Derick Centeno
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Of course, it is easy to be mistaken as
no one really knows what Apple
> > > > is doing.
> > > >
> > > > However, my guess or rather why I came
to believe that GOOM is
> > > > implemented within iTunes, is based upon
how the visual portion of
> > > > iTunes behaves when the visualization
feature which adapts images to
> > > > music spontaneously is activated.   My
"guess" is based upon long
> > > > observation of how GOOM behaves within
xine within the YDL environment
> > > > as far back when YDL was in version 2.0.
 I didn't discover iTunes and
> > > > it's visualization feature until I
received a powerbook as a gift last
> > > > year and ran OS X.  I was able to
recognize certain commonalities in
> > > > how the visualization engine behaved, my
"guess" is based on those
> > > > observations.  And Jurvis it's really ok
to be wrong now and then ...
> > > > you do know that Wikipedia is hardly the
bedrock of accurate
> > > > information... right?  Wikipedia is
however functional as a cheap and
> > > > fast lookup when one doesn't have access
to a quality and
> > > > authoritative encyclopedic tome such as
Britannica or other world
> > > > class encyclopedic reference.
> > > >
> > > > Check this out:
> > > >
> > > > h
ttp://www.ios-software.com/?page=projet&quoi=1
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure you'll have better luck, next
time..
> > > >
> > > > Always, fondly....DC
> > > >
> > > > To answer your other question, or
implied question, I don't work for
> > > > Apple and really have no way of knowing
what they installed or how
> > > > apart from carefully observing how the
software in question (here
> > > > iTunes) behaves when it is activated to
visualize music or present
> > > > images which "move to music". 
As I explained, my success in this
> > > > situation (the guess I made) stems from
very close observation of how
> > > > software behaves and what is implemented
when.
> > > >
> > > > Ciao!!
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 2, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jurvis
LaSalle wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Derick
Centeno wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>  I'm convinced that GOOM is
implemented within Apple's iTune's, they
> > > >>> are just not going to admit it
to anyone.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm convinced that you are mistaken
once again.
> > > >> http://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundSpectrum
> > > >>
> > > >> Maybe, just maybe you saw someome
who had installed the GOOM plugin
> > > >> for iTunes...
> > > >>
> > > >> htsys,
> > > >> JL
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ===============
> > > > Mitakuye Oyasin -- A saying of the
Lakota Sioux meaning "We are all
> > > > related".
> > > >
> > > >
_______________________________________________
> > > > yellowdog-general mailing list
> > > > yellowdog-generallists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailma
n/listinfo/yellowdog-general
> > > > HINT: to Google archives, try 
'<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
> > >
> > >
_______________________________________________
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> > > yellowdog-generallists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailma
n/listinfo/yellowdog-general
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'<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
> > >
> >
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