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YDL 4.0.1 and Blue&WhiteG3
user name
2006-03-19 00:03:30
On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 15:57 -0600, Brian Turner wrote:
> On Mar 18, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Andrew wrote:
> 
> >  echo "alias eth0 gmac" >>
/etc/modprobe.conf
> 
> This added the entry alias eth0 gmac to the bottom of
the modprobe file.
> 
> I did a more on the file and the entry was there twice.
rebooted and  
> still no network.
> 
> I did get this error when trying to add the card.
> system-config-network
> FATAL:module gmac not found
> 
> Thanks,

One last suggestion from me, then I can only blind-shot in
the dark:

root]# modprobe gmac



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YDL 4.0.1 and Blue&WhiteG3
user name
2006-03-19 03:25:23
On Mar 18, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Andrew wrote:

> On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 15:57 -0600, Brian Turner wrote:
>> On Mar 18, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>>  echo "alias eth0 gmac" >>
/etc/modprobe.conf
>>
>> This added the entry alias eth0 gmac to the bottom
of the modprobe  
>> file.
>>
>> I did a more on the file and the entry was there
twice. rebooted and
>> still no network.
>>
>> I did get this error when trying to add the card.
>> system-config-network
>> FATAL:module gmac not found
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> One last suggestion from me, then I can only blind-shot
in the dark:
>
> root]# modprobe gmac
>
Bash: modprobe command not found

I seem to be missing a number of commands. I can't ifconfig
either.  
but I am not sure that is a command.

Thanks for your effort.

I bought the supported package from Terrasoft but didn't
get this new  
machine in the 30 day support period. Bummer.

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YDL 4.0.1 and Blue&WhiteG3
user name
2006-03-19 05:10:01
On 18/03/06, Brian Turner <brianturnersystems.com>
wrote:
>
> On Mar 18, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Andrew wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 15:57 -0600, Brian Turner
wrote:
> >> On Mar 18, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Andrew wrote:
> >>
> >>>  echo "alias eth0 gmac"
>> /etc/modprobe.conf
> >>
> >> This added the entry alias eth0 gmac to the
bottom of the modprobe
> >> file.
> >>
> >> I did a more on the file and the entry was
there twice. rebooted and
> >> still no network.
> >>
> >> I did get this error when trying to add the
card.
> >> system-config-network
> >> FATAL:module gmac not found

> > One last suggestion from me, then I can only
blind-shot in the dark:
> >
> > root]# modprobe gmac
> >
> Bash: modprobe command not found

locate modprobe

It's in:
/sbin/modprobe

sbin contains executables that are meant to be run by the
root user.
As such, these executables are NOT part of the path command
for normal
users (echo $PATH). You need to do the following:
/sbin/modprobe

I just ran it on my Beige G3 (same problem as what you have)
and get
the same error.

This is my (working) modprobe.conf:

alias snd-card-0 dmasound_pmac
alias eth0 8139too
install dmasound_pmac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install
dmasound_pmac &&
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove dmasound_pmac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null
2>&1 || : ;
}; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove dmasound_pmac

Note: I do have a 100 BaseT PCI card that's installed which
is why you
see alias etho0 8139too. Check the list archives for details
on which
card I installed and what I did to get it working (I think
it was a
DLink)... probably about half a year ago now.

> I seem to be missing a number of commands. I can't
ifconfig either.
> but I am not sure that is a command.

/sbin/ifconfig

PS Don't worry -- it's taken me two years to get to even
this point. I
need to constantly refer to man pages and the web for help.

Eric.
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YDL 4.0.1 and Blue&WhiteG3
user name
2006-03-19 05:12:57
On 19/03/06, Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbargmail.com> wrote:
> On 18/03/06, Brian Turner <brianturnersystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 18, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Andrew wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 15:57 -0600, Brian
Turner wrote:
> > >> On Mar 18, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Andrew
wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>  echo "alias eth0 gmac"
>> /etc/modprobe.conf
> > >>
> > >> This added the entry alias eth0 gmac to
the bottom of the modprobe
> > >> file.
> > >>
> > >> I did a more on the file and the entry
was there twice. rebooted and
> > >> still no network.

Hmm. Is it possible that the OP meant to write Bmac instead
of Gmac???!!!!

I noticed that I still had my old /etc/modprobe.conf~ file
and this is
the file's contents:

alias snd-card-0 dmasound_pmac
alias eth0 bmac
install dmasound_pmac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install
dmasound_pmac &&
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove dmasound_pmac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null
2>&1 || : ;
}; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove dmasound_pmac

Note: you can simply edit this file with nano:
su
nano /etc/modprobe.conf

Eric
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YDL 4.0.1 and Blue&WhiteG3
user name
2006-03-19 16:14:03
>>>> It installs fine but networking does not
work.
>>>>
>>>> the Gmac card is recognized by the
installer but in the network  
>>>> control panel it is listed as disabled.
When I click enable is  
>>>> says it can't be found.
>>>> I tried adding a Linksys card I had lying
around and it was  
>>>> recognized by kudzu but does not show up in
the network control  
>>>> panel. Both of them are listed as being at
eth0 in the hardware  
>>>> browser.
>>>> Netstat lists the loopback address and
nothing else. I think  
>>>> that means that the IP stack is fine.
>>>> Because I have similar problems with two
different cards I think  
>>>> my drivers are OK.
>>>> What could be between the stack and the
drivers.
>>>> I am thinking a config file.
>>>> This is one of the early blue and whites
that won't do two  
>>>> internal HDs on the default bus. It is
completely stock except  
>>>> the CD drive.
>>>> Maybe it needs a firmware update.
>>>>
>>>> I am using DHCP but can switch to fixed
IP's if needed.
>>>>
>>>> YDL4.0.1 Blue&White G3 400 Mhz AGP
Yosemite (I think)
>>>>
On Mar 18, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Eric Dunbar wrote:

> On 19/03/06, Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbargmail.com> wrote:
>> On 18/03/06, Brian Turner <brianturnersystems.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 15:57 -0600, Brian
Turner wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Andrew
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  echo "alias eth0 gmac"
>> /etc/modprobe.conf
>>>>>
>>>>> This added the entry alias eth0 gmac to
the bottom of the modprobe
>>>>> file.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a more on the file and the entry
was there twice.  
>>>>> rebooted and
>>>>> still no network.
>
> Hmm. Is it possible that the OP meant to write Bmac
instead of  
> Gmac???!!!!
>
> I noticed that I still had my old /etc/modprobe.conf~
file and this is
> the file's contents:
>
> alias snd-card-0 dmasound_pmac
> alias eth0 bmac
> install dmasound_pmac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install
dmasound_pmac &&
> /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||
:
> remove dmasound_pmac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store
>/dev/null 2>&1 || : ;
> }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove dmasound_pmac
>
> Note: you can simply edit this file with nano:
> su
> nano /etc/modprobe.conf
>
> Eric
Success! it was supposed to be bmac instead of gmac

I did:
su
/sbin/modprobe bmac

I then went to the gnome and activated the interface. A
reboot  
probably would have worked too. I now can access web pages
via IP  
address.
I need to put in the DNS settings but I think I have seen
that.

I think that the install routines put in the right driver
but then  
call it by the wrong name. locate gmac found nothing. This
sounds  
like a terrasoft problem. Out on the net both bmac and gmac
were  
sometimes referred to as being in this machine. It is
possible that  
apple switched that without any other change and that a
later  
blue&white would have a gmac. I think that Apple dosn't
change the  
name of products so that orders for discontinued products
will  
automatically get filled by their replacements. It sure
gives us  
techs fits.

I did try to do exactly this in the GUI in Gnome but it
didn't work.  
I don't think that the GUI is 100% functional.

Eric, Andrew, thanks a ton for your help.
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Installing to a G3 in target mode via a G5
user name
2006-03-19 21:31:11
I've got a special problem here: a G3 iBook with a broken
CD drive 
(read errors somwhere mid-install), so I have to install YDL
from 
outside. unfortunately the only other machine which is
availabe is a 
G5. So if I put the G3 into target mode and use install
firewire on 
the G5 a 64-bit kernel is installed on the iBook - which
(you guessed 
it!) won't work :-(

Is there any way to tell the installer which hardware to
expect eventually?

Thanks a lot

Holger

Otoh, I might just buy another iBook, wait another 13 days
and split 
the FW cable to do a simultanous install on 2 32-Bit
systems...
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