Robert, you are forgetting something essential. e17 is
brand
spanking new!
The information you acquired regarding engage needing to be
acquired
from within a cvs means something for persons with
intermediate to
advanced programming skills. Briefly, a cvs is tool which
provides a
means of tracking changes in source code libraries. Source
code
meaning C or C++ languages, as well as others used in
programming
computers.
What you fail to realize is that to use engage, you have to
have the
programming skills in order to compile, build, install and
test
engage then integrate it into e17 so that everything works.
On the
commercial side of the universe where Windows, Macs and
others have
sway -- companies pay programmers to do all that work and
sell or
license the end product -- a working operating system
complete with
all the niceties most users are used to for users to, well,
use.
Linux/Unix are different. Unix, commercial Unix such as
Solaris and
AIX, and others, provide a tool like cvs for their
programmers
and like other commercial environments an IT/MIS department
does the
work which the users have no idea exists. Usually users
needs are
refined on-site.
Linux was designed to be close to Unix, but allow for
persons to use
it at home or home office environments. However, every
single
version of Linux has nearly the full complexity of what
commercial
Unix is. In other words, it required the user of Linux to
be
competent as a programmer. If one thing is hindering Linux
from
overall complete acceptance and domination of the desktop it
still
needs a person sophisticated and disciplined enough to
understand and
correct the source code when things go wrong.
Linux, and BSD Unix, are a great gifts, as rich as a local
public
library. The difference is that few actually take advantage
of it
and master what is present for all and anyone to read and
learn
from. There is no commercial operating system or commercial
service
which will permit you to access, read, have the opportunity
to learn
or correct source code -- and literally design things your
way and
share it with others.
YDL is under the GPL (General Public License), like other
Linux
variants so it is it's own library for your use and
expansion.
Not everyone will be interested in doing such intricate work
of
course. But to use engage and build it, you must have that
core
competence at this stage of how e17 exists.
Unfortunately the current situation in Linux is akin to
asking a
listener of music to become a Master Composer, or Musician.
It is understandable not everyone will do that, or engage in
the
disciplines to achieve that competency. However, the
opportunity in
Linux is that if one had the drive and interest -- one
potentially
could do some wonderful work adding to the marvel that e17
is and may
yet be.
The work one assumes must be conditional upon one's
interests. Some
will have to wait; others will make attempts. No one
however can
design or imagine exactly how you or another individual
would do
something creative within Linux. There's no guarantee of
success,
but the opportunity is definitely present.
All the best...
On Apr 7, 2008, at 2:32 PM, LaNier.Robert wrote:
> I read that user guide, but the engage bar doesn't seem
to be
> installed
> at all. From what I read it has be installed from a
cvs, which I'm
> not
> familiar with at all. Also is there an e17 repo that
we can use to
> update e17 as well as install any dependency needed for
engage or any
> other e17 application. Any help is appreciated. This
is all for
> YDL v6
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: yellowdog-newbie-bounces lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> [mailto:yellowdog-newbie-bounceslists.terrasoftsolutions.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Derick Centeno
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:35 PM
> To: yellowdog-newbielists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: Re: e17 Dockbar Configuration & Bling
Module
>
> Hi Robert:
>
> I discovered a discussion regarding engage here which
may address your
> questions:
http://www1.get-e.org/EFL_User_Guide/English/_pages/
> 3.4.html
>
> As far as getting modules, etc. into e17 I found YDL 5
more
> straightforward.
> YDL6 has hidden this capacity by simplifying what may
be accessed via
> the
> standard. In short, to access the flexibility you
speak of one would
> have to
> know which modular options to select so that e17 will
unlock or access
> the desired features you speak of.
>
> I did that by Configuration --> Modules, the dialog
Module Settings
> appears
> with Available Modules listed on the left. When I
selected one
> module,
> then I
> clicked upon Load Module which would bring that
selected module
> into the
> Loaded
> Module list. If you loaded the correct combination of
modules then
> you'll
> noticed that Theme, Wallpaper and Configuration panel
are also
> available
> from
> the Configuration menu option. You can then proceed to
import themes
> and other
> tools into e17.
>
> Keep in mind that currently there are differences
between development
> installations of e17 and release installations (by
which I mean
> versions
> of e17
> distributed by vendors such as TSS, etc. designed
especially for their
> users).
> In short, the themes pages of e17 will clearly explain
whether such
> themes will
> function in the current development environment alone.
>
> All the best...
>
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:48:26 -0400
> "LaNier.Robert" <Robert.LanierSunTrust.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all! I have a question concerning the e17
dockbar
> configuration.
>> Is there a way to configure the dockbar to use
engage instead of
>> ibar?
>> Does e17 on YDL v6 come pre installed with engage
and/or the bling
>> module composite manager? If not how do we get
these modules on e17
> on
>> ydl v6?
>>
>>
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