Does 4.1 solves or provide:

Greetings Andres:

Unfortunately, your question regarding what you are looking
for is
incomplete and therefore I am guessing at your meaning.  

I'll attempt an intuitive approach.  First I've never
found a problem
with any version of KDE in any version of YDL regarding
essential
programming and network functions.  It always functioned
properly and
was always available; this doesn't mean that all the fun or
attractive
aspects of KDE functioned or was available (musical cues
associated with
desktop events, or associated themes or screen savers,
etc.). 

If by "KDE awakening after going to sleep..."
means the KDE screen
invoking the screensaver after a user not using the computer
for a
time ... KDE reawakens very nicely if one has not set the
screensaver to
lock access to the computer.  

However another meaning is also possible with this phrase
which is
unrelated to KDE itself; it could point to anything from a
hardware
difficulty to a problem with drivers or the kernel.  

There is a great difference between YDL 4.1 and prior
versions of YDL;
in my view YDL 4.1 is better in every way.  However, the
question of
which functions are important to you should be clarified if
you write
back.

As usual in Linux, there are a variety of opinions regarding
everything.

In general, YDL 4.1 functions very nicely.  However, how I
use Linux may
differ in how you use it or would like to use it.  

I'm sure your next query will be clearer.  However, in the
meantime
perhaps this response will give you a clue one way or
another.

One more thing, I have provided a link to the Terra Soft
pages which
discuss which computer hardware the current version of YDL
will support.
Please review it carefully:

http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/
hardware/breakdown/index.php

Good Luck ....


>         From: Andres Tello Abrego <criptosaullox.com> 
>         Date: February 27, 2006 10:17:19 AM EST
>         To: yellowdog-newbielists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>         Subject: Does 4.1 solves or provide:
>         Reply-To: Yellow Dog Linux Newbie List
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>         
>         Issues:
>         Kde not awakening after going to sleep?
>         
>         Provides?
>         amarok 
>         
>         newest kopete?
>         
>         This are my reasons to purchase or not to
purchase.
>         
>         hardware g3 900 mhz ibook 
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I have the same problem as Andres, and with identical
hardware: a 900 MHz G3 
iBook (KDE does not awaken after sleep mode).  I know that I
do *not* have 
the screen saver set to lock out access.  KDE also will not
awaken if the 
iBook is closed.  Any ideas?  So far the solution has been
to logout so that 
the system is set back to the initial login screen (the
iBook will 
sleep/awaken from there).

Has 4.1 fixed this?  Or do I just have something set wrong
in 4.0.1 (my 
current version of YDL)?

-PRH

On Friday 03 March 2006 01:54, Derick Centeno wrote:
> Greetings Andres:
>
> Unfortunately, your question regarding what you are
looking for is
> incomplete and therefore I am guessing at your meaning.
>
> I'll attempt an intuitive approach.  First I've never
found a problem
> with any version of KDE in any version of YDL regarding
essential
> programming and network functions.  It always
functioned properly and
> was always available; this doesn't mean that all the
fun or attractive
> aspects of KDE functioned or was available (musical
cues associated with
> desktop events, or associated themes or screen savers,
etc.).
>
> If by "KDE awakening after going to
sleep..." means the KDE screen
> invoking the screensaver after a user not using the
computer for a
> time ... KDE reawakens very nicely if one has not set
the screensaver to
> lock access to the computer.
>
> However another meaning is also possible with this
phrase which is
> unrelated to KDE itself; it could point to anything
from a hardware
> difficulty to a problem with drivers or the kernel.
>
> There is a great difference between YDL 4.1 and prior
versions of YDL;
> in my view YDL 4.1 is better in every way.  However,
the question of
> which functions are important to you should be
clarified if you write
> back.
>
> As usual in Linux, there are a variety of opinions
regarding everything.
>
> In general, YDL 4.1 functions very nicely.  However,
how I use Linux may
> differ in how you use it or would like to use it.
>
> I'm sure your next query will be clearer.  However, in
the meantime
> perhaps this response will give you a clue one way or
another.
>
> One more thing, I have provided a link to the Terra
Soft pages which
> discuss which computer hardware the current version of
YDL will support.
> Please review it carefully:
>
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/
hardware/breakdown/index.php
>
> Good Luck ....
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Ok.  That's a little more information than what I saw
before.
Perhaps a video issue?

If you go to the link I provided to Andres, and go to the
kind of PB 
you have and click upon Video information you would see the
following:

Apple iBook 500-900MHz G3, 2001-2003

ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 16MB VRAM
Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
2D acceleration: Yes
3D acceleration: No
Dual head: No
Notes: 1024x768


ATI Rage Mobility 128 (2X-AGP) with 8MB VRAM
Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
2D acceleration: Yes
3D acceleration: No
Dual head: No
Notes: 1024x768


ATI Mobility Radeon (2X-AGP) with 16MB VRAM
Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
2D acceleration: Yes
3D acceleration: No
Dual head: No
Notes: 1024x768


ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32MB VRAM
Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
2D acceleration: Yes
3D acceleration: No
Dual head: No
Notes: 1024x768

Although the recommendations refer to YDL 4.1 you can try
and check the 
screen settings you are using; these settings may affect or
change how 
your PB behaves with the current version of YDL you use. 
For greater 
clarity and perhaps more informed info, it might be
beneficial to 
discuss the details with someone at Terra Soft.  I don't
have that 
version of PB, and I cannot recreate the difficulty you
describe.

Good Luck ....

On Mar 2, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Paul Higgins wrote:

> I have the same problem as Andres, and with identical
hardware: a 900 
> MHz G3
> iBook (KDE does not awaken after sleep mode).  I know
that I do *not* 
> have
> the screen saver set to lock out access.  KDE also will
not awaken if 
> the
> iBook is closed.  Any ideas?  So far the solution has
been to logout 
> so that
> the system is set back to the initial login screen (the
iBook will
> sleep/awaken from there).
>
> Has 4.1 fixed this?  Or do I just have something set
wrong in 4.0.1 (my
> current version of YDL)?
>
> -PRH

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I've been to the hardware page already.  My iBook is the
one with the 32 MB 
VRAM (ATI Mobility 7500 card) and is supported by both YDL
4.0.1 and 4.1 
(currently running 4.0.1).  The problem seems to be
something inherent to 
KDE, as the research I've done suggests that Gnome has much
fewer issues with 
laptop and awakening from sleep mode.  Maybe I should change
over to that WM 
in the future.  

Does YDL 4.0.1 and/or 4.1 awaken from sleep mode OK on
desktop machines?  
Because I've only installed YDL on my iBook so far.  There
are definite 
problems with closing the lid (YDL doesn't sleep) as well
as sleep mode (YDL 
does not awaken--but only when powered from the battery). 
The battery-saving 
mode seems to be the culprit.

-PRH

On Friday 03 March 2006 00:53, Derick Centeno wrote:
> Ok.  That's a little more information than what I saw
before.
> Perhaps a video issue?
>
> If you go to the link I provided to Andres, and go to
the kind of PB
> you have and click upon Video information you would see
the following:
>
> Apple iBook 500-900MHz G3, 2001-2003
>
> ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 16MB VRAM
> Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
> 2D acceleration: Yes
> 3D acceleration: No
> Dual head: No
> Notes: 1024x768
>
>
> ATI Rage Mobility 128 (2X-AGP) with 8MB VRAM
> Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
> 2D acceleration: Yes
> 3D acceleration: No
> Dual head: No
> Notes: 1024x768
>
>
> ATI Mobility Radeon (2X-AGP) with 16MB VRAM
> Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
> 2D acceleration: Yes
> 3D acceleration: No
> Dual head: No
> Notes: 1024x768
>
>
> ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32MB VRAM
> Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
> 2D acceleration: Yes
> 3D acceleration: No
> Dual head: No
> Notes: 1024x768
>
> Although the recommendations refer to YDL 4.1 you can
try and check the
> screen settings you are using; these settings may
affect or change how
> your PB behaves with the current version of YDL you
use.  For greater
> clarity and perhaps more informed info, it might be
beneficial to
> discuss the details with someone at Terra Soft.  I
don't have that
> version of PB, and I cannot recreate the difficulty you
describe.
>
> Good Luck ....
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I'm running YDL 4.1 on a 1.67 GHz PB.  It runs better than
what YDL 4.0 
did.

Unfortunately, I cannot list all the problems YDL 4.0 had on
my PB; all 
I can admit is that YDL 4.1 is much better.

Although I have enjoyed KDE with it's musical charms; Gnome
get's done 
all the jobs I want done without distracting me with pretty
this or 
that.
Gnome is not unattractive or unpleasant, it doesn't however
attempt to 
be as "pretty and cute" as KDE tries to be with
music and bouncing 
icons and all.

Depending upon your taste another WM which may interest you
and not get 
in your way is Enlightenment (www.enlightenment.org).

Sadly when a WM tries to be the next OS X or Windows -- as
KDE seems to 
be going the direction of -- there will be, in my opinion,
misuse of 
system resources.

Sleep mode in YDL 4.1 is fine; I think however a little
refinement 
regarding the screen saver would be nice.  This doesn't
bother me as 
I'm not interested in watching the screen saver anyway. 
When the 
screen goes black when screen saver activates it's probably
better that 
way anyway.  I haven't yet set up my old 233MHz G3 tower as
a desktop 
system running the current version of YDL; frankly I'm
satisfied with 
how it works from the PB such that putting YDL onto that
very old 
machine is more work than worthwhile right now.

I'm sure others on this list will happily share their
experiences.

Good Luck ....

On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Paul Higgins wrote:

> I've been to the hardware page already.  My iBook is
the one with the 
> 32 MB
> VRAM (ATI Mobility 7500 card) and is supported by both
YDL 4.0.1 and 
> 4.1
> (currently running 4.0.1).  The problem seems to be
something inherent 
> to
> KDE, as the research I've done suggests that Gnome has
much fewer 
> issues with
> laptop and awakening from sleep mode.  Maybe I should
change over to 
> that WM
> in the future.
>
> Does YDL 4.0.1 and/or 4.1 awaken from sleep mode OK on
desktop 
> machines?
> Because I've only installed YDL on my iBook so far. 
There are definite
> problems with closing the lid (YDL doesn't sleep) as
well as sleep 
> mode (YDL
> does not awaken--but only when powered from the
battery).  The 
> battery-saving
> mode seems to be the culprit.
>
> -PRH

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Yes, the trouble is with the kde, I think that is with the
dcop 
interface...

So far, Iīve been using fxce "kdeised", I run
xfce as WM, and kmix, 
knotes and gaim, Since those apps use the systemtray
interface, fxce 
display then properly, and I no longer had this "Black
screen of coma"

I'm from the slackware planet, So, I was used to build a
lot of my 
installed programs. Using the gcc provided with YDL 4.0, I
was unable to 
build a lot of c++ programs, as amarok, I belive lastest
verions of 
umbrello and kopete... Times has changed. Now I donīt want
to "build 
anything", I like to have it working asap 

So, amarok is prebuilded with YDL 4.1?

Sorry about the lack of information about my last message, I
was in a 
hurry..

YDL is using Xfree or Xorg?

As far I can see, still no dualhead support... I have a
almost dualhead 
working configuration... Auxiliar output works ok when I use
it, but the 
LCD shows dancing/dazzling vertical lines... But, it works
for me...

Thanks Paul for giving a better explanation than me 


BTW: use xfce

Paul Higgins wrote:
> I've been to the hardware page already.  My iBook is
the one with the 32 MB 
> VRAM (ATI Mobility 7500 card) and is supported by both
YDL 4.0.1 and 4.1 
> (currently running 4.0.1).  The problem seems to be
something inherent to 
> KDE, as the research I've done suggests that Gnome has
much fewer issues with 
> laptop and awakening from sleep mode.  Maybe I should
change over to that WM 
> in the future.  
> 
> Does YDL 4.0.1 and/or 4.1 awaken from sleep mode OK on
desktop machines?  
> Because I've only installed YDL on my iBook so far. 
There are definite 
> problems with closing the lid (YDL doesn't sleep) as
well as sleep mode (YDL 
> does not awaken--but only when powered from the
battery).  The battery-saving 
> mode seems to be the culprit.
> 
> -PRH
> 
> On Friday 03 March 2006 00:53, Derick Centeno wrote:
> 
>>Ok.  That's a little more information than what I
saw before.
>>Perhaps a video issue?
>>
>>If you go to the link I provided to Andres, and go
to the kind of PB
>>you have and click upon Video information you would
see the following:
>>
>>Apple iBook 500-900MHz G3, 2001-2003
>>
>>ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 16MB VRAM
>>Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
>>2D acceleration: Yes
>>3D acceleration: No
>>Dual head: No
>>Notes: 1024x768
>>
>>
>>ATI Rage Mobility 128 (2X-AGP) with 8MB VRAM
>>Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
>>2D acceleration: Yes
>>3D acceleration: No
>>Dual head: No
>>Notes: 1024x768
>>
>>
>>ATI Mobility Radeon (2X-AGP) with 16MB VRAM
>>Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
>>2D acceleration: Yes
>>3D acceleration: No
>>Dual head: No
>>Notes: 1024x768
>>
>>
>>ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32MB VRAM
>>Maximum number of colors: Thousands (16-bit)
>>2D acceleration: Yes
>>3D acceleration: No
>>Dual head: No
>>Notes: 1024x768
>>
>>Although the recommendations refer to YDL 4.1 you
can try and check the
>>screen settings you are using; these settings may
affect or change how
>>your PB behaves with the current version of YDL you
use.  For greater
>>clarity and perhaps more informed info, it might be
beneficial to
>>discuss the details with someone at Terra Soft.  I
don't have that
>>version of PB, and I cannot recreate the difficulty
you describe.
>>
>>Good Luck ....
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Hi Andres:
Amarok is not prebuilt with YDL 4.1, if you want it it is
clear you are 
skilled enough to do whatever needs to be done.  I played
around with 
Slackware some years ago when I was a programmer for an IT
department 
of a college.  I didn't here of amarok until you mentioned
it; have you 
ever tried xine (http://xinehq.de/)?  You are
probably also aware that 
as long as you stay on the PowerPC side of the universe you
may have to 
continue rebuilding many packages which are provided as
binaries for 
Intel Linux, but not PowerPC.  I don't believe any
distribution can 
provide all the potential packages an individual could want
or be 
interested in; so the skills you have acquired will be and
remain 
valuable for quite sometime.  Advice: Don't forget them;
keep a 
notebook somewhere as a reminder.

As you are interested in what packages YDL 4.1 includes,
refer to this 
link and click upon which package interests you:

http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/included/


On Mar 5, 2006, at 10:20 PM, Andres Tello Abrego wrote:

> Yes, the trouble is with the kde, I think that is with
the dcop 
> interface...
>
> So far, Iīve been using fxce "kdeised", I
run xfce as WM, and kmix, 
> knotes and gaim, Since those apps use the systemtray
interface, fxce 
> display then properly, and I no longer had this
"Black screen of coma"
>
> I'm from the slackware planet, So, I was used to build
a lot of my 
> installed programs. Using the gcc provided with YDL
4.0, I was unable 
> to build a lot of c++ programs, as amarok, I belive
lastest verions of 
> umbrello and kopete... Times has changed. Now I donīt
want to "build 
> anything", I like to have it working asap 
>
> So, amarok is prebuilded with YDL 4.1?
>
> Sorry about the lack of information about my last
message, I was in a 
> hurry..
>
> YDL is using Xfree or Xorg?
>
> As far I can see, still no dualhead support... I have a
almost 
> dualhead working configuration... Auxiliar output works
ok when I use 
> it, but the LCD shows dancing/dazzling vertical
lines... But, it works 
> for me...
>
> Thanks Paul for giving a better explanation than me

>
>
> BTW: use xfce

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Thanks for the link...

Amarok, you should get amarok  itīs neat,
nice, is, like.. humm.. 
itunes without apple, but fancier...

Any way, if I get amarok to build with yellowdog I will ask
for 
assistance to make the spec file to create a rpm...

Truly, amarok is a must need application...

One thing what I HATE about xmms, is itīs randomness, from a
long list, 
it selects over, and over the same songs...

it just sucks!

Derick Centeno wrote:
> Hi Andres:
> Amarok is not prebuilt with YDL 4.1, if you want it it
is clear you are 
> skilled enough to do whatever needs to be done.  I
played around with 
> Slackware some years ago when I was a programmer for an
IT department of 
> a college.  I didn't here of amarok until you
mentioned it; have you 
> ever tried xine (http://xinehq.de/)?  You are
probably also aware that 
> as long as you stay on the PowerPC side of the universe
you may have to 
> continue rebuilding many packages which are provided as
binaries for 
> Intel Linux, but not PowerPC.  I don't believe any
distribution can 
> provide all the potential packages an individual could
want or be 
> interested in; so the skills you have acquired will be
and remain 
> valuable for quite sometime.  Advice: Don't forget
them; keep a notebook 
> somewhere as a reminder.
> 
> As you are interested in what packages YDL 4.1
includes, refer to this 
> link and click upon which package interests you:
> 
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/included/

> 
> On Mar 5, 2006, at 10:20 PM, Andres Tello Abrego wrote:
> 
>> Yes, the trouble is with the kde, I think that is
with the dcop 
>> interface...
>>
>> So far, Iīve been using fxce "kdeised",
I run xfce as WM, and kmix, 
>> knotes and gaim, Since those apps use the
systemtray interface, fxce 
>> display then properly, and I no longer had this
"Black screen of coma"
>>
>> I'm from the slackware planet, So, I was used to
build a lot of my 
>> installed programs. Using the gcc provided with YDL
4.0, I was unable 
>> to build a lot of c++ programs, as amarok, I belive
lastest verions of 
>> umbrello and kopete... Times has changed. Now I
donīt want to "build 
>> anything", I like to have it working asap

>>
>> So, amarok is prebuilded with YDL 4.1?
>>
>> Sorry about the lack of information about my last
message, I was in a 
>> hurry..
>>
>> YDL is using Xfree or Xorg?
>>
>> As far I can see, still no dualhead support... I
have a almost 
>> dualhead working configuration... Auxiliar output
works ok when I use 
>> it, but the LCD shows dancing/dazzling vertical
lines... But, it works 
>> for me...
>>
>> Thanks Paul for giving a better explanation than me

>>
>>
>> BTW: use xfce
> 
> 
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