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B&W and drive not recognised!
country flaguser name
United Kingdom
2007-09-19 01:22:00
I wonder if anyone else has come across this problem. I am
aiming to 
install YDL 4.1 on a B&W G3 but have come across an
initial hardware 
recognition issue on a setup I'm sure I've seen working
somewhere else 
before.

I have a B&W G3 400MHz PowerMac that I want to use a
36Gb IBM UltraStar 
hard drive with using an Advansys 3940U2W SCSI card. I used
the latest 
Advansys Flash Utility v.1.56 and flashed the SCSI card with
the 
38C0800_9_boot.bin Mac OS9 boot BIOS successfully on a
PowerMac 8600 
under OS9.22 and am able to mount, format and boot from the
drive 
without any problem on that computer.

(I already have another B&W G3 running YDL 5.01 using an
Adaptec 
PowerDomain SCSI card with an 18Gb IBM DGHS and a 36Gb IBM
UltraStar 
hard drive without any problems).

However, when I transfer the drive, SCSI card and ribbon
cable to the 
B&W G3 and boot the machine I can see the SCSI card
using the Apple 
System Profiler but no drive on the end of it - that's
booting from an 
Apple MacOS 9.2.1 installer CD! I attached an external
firewire drive 
and ran FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit v.4.52 and was slightly more
successful 
in that it was able to see the hard drive attched to the
SCSI card but 
was not able to mount or format the drive as those options
are greyed out!

I have tried flashing card by running the tools from the
external 
Firewire drive having booted the machine using the Apple
MacOS 9.2.1 
installer CD, and I have also booted into Open Firmware and
reset the 
hardware configuration, to no available!

Clearly I am missing something and would be grateful if
someone could 
point out to me where I am going wrong.

Thanks in advance.

Dene

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Re: B&W and drive not recognised!
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-19 08:52:43
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Hi Dene:

You appear to be searching for an solution based on Apple OS
Utilities
and associated software.  Years ago I'd remember what to
recommend, but
I switched to YDL so long ago that I remember nothing
useful, other
than some details regarding formatting hard drives which
hardly anyone
bothers with anymore.

If you are willing to attempt it why not use the machine you
have
running YDL 5 to investigate the hardware you are curious
about?  If
parted can see it, control and format it -- I see no reason
why it
can't -- that could be the way for you to go.  Instead of
trying to
thing's Apple's way, try the technical utilities in Linux. 
You may be
surprised what you can do.  I believe the technical
utilities in YDL
are more varied than what Apple allows anyway.  I once used
YDL
utilities to recover a drive used in a Silicon Graphics box
which was
pronounced dead.

If however Apple stuff remains important for whatever
reason, perhaps
some specialists in that could be located here:

http://www.yellowdog-
board.com/

I'm not clear why you'd want YDL 4.1, when it appears that
you can run
YDL 5.  Why not run YDL 5 on both machines?

Just some thoughts...

Good Luck...

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:22:00 +0100
Dene Stringfellow <supportridgedale.co.uk> wrote:

> I wonder if anyone else has come across this problem. I
am aiming to 
> install YDL 4.1 on a B&W G3 but have come across an
initial hardware 
> recognition issue on a setup I'm sure I've seen working
somewhere
> else before.
> 
> I have a B&W G3 400MHz PowerMac that I want to use
a 36Gb IBM
> UltraStar hard drive with using an Advansys 3940U2W
SCSI card. I used
> the latest Advansys Flash Utility v.1.56 and flashed
the SCSI card
> with the 38C0800_9_boot.bin Mac OS9 boot BIOS
successfully on a
> PowerMac 8600 under OS9.22 and am able to mount, format
and boot from
> the drive without any problem on that computer.
> 
> (I already have another B&W G3 running YDL 5.01
using an Adaptec 
> PowerDomain SCSI card with an 18Gb IBM DGHS and a 36Gb
IBM UltraStar 
> hard drive without any problems).
> 
> However, when I transfer the drive, SCSI card and
ribbon cable to the 
> B&W G3 and boot the machine I can see the SCSI card
using the Apple 
> System Profiler but no drive on the end of it - that's
booting from
> an Apple MacOS 9.2.1 installer CD! I attached an
external firewire
> drive and ran FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit v.4.52 and was
slightly more
> successful in that it was able to see the hard drive
attched to the
> SCSI card but was not able to mount or format the drive
as those
> options are greyed out!
> 
> I have tried flashing card by running the tools from
the external 
> Firewire drive having booted the machine using the
Apple MacOS 9.2.1 
> installer CD, and I have also booted into Open Firmware
and reset the 
> hardware configuration, to no available!
> 
> Clearly I am missing something and would be grateful if
someone could 
> point out to me where I am going wrong.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Dene


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