roadmap

I've been going through the near-term road map for 1.6 and I
see an  
item that I'm not sure about:

- vida's cgi/fcgi fixes that don't seem to have made it into
1.4

Can anyone explain to me exactly what this means?

Also, anyone have items that they'd like to see added to the
1.6  
list? I'd like to plan for a 1.6 release some time around
the end of  
the year, to coincide with a website redesign, if possible.

Bill 

Incidentally, the roadmap is located here:

http://gotpike.org/PikeWiki/index.pike/CaudiumWik
i/RoadMapNotes

Please feel free to add items to the list, preferably to the
 
"uncategorized" section.

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, H. William Welliver III wrote:

> Incidentally, the roadmap is located here:
>
> http://gotpike.org/PikeWiki/index.pike/CaudiumWik
i/RoadMapNotes
>
> Please feel free to add items to the list, preferably
to the "uncategorized" 
> section.
>

I could not get into modules.gotpike.org (to try to get a
account) so I 
submit my ideas this way:

* in .htaccess support the <file> directive
    caudium only supports the directory directive - http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#directory

    The requested function would be like apaches - 
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#files

* Instability problems with large files and php
    with squirrelmail and gallery caudium cant handle large
file uploads
    (this is maybe a bug?)

//Henrik Andreasson (kinneh)

> * in .htaccess support the <file> directive
>    caudium only supports the directory directive -
http:// 
> httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#directory
>    The requested function would be like apaches -
http:// 
> httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#files

Is that the only thing that was missing? I thought there
were some  
differences in the syntax as well.

> * Instability problems with large files and php
>    with squirrelmail and gallery caudium cant handle
large file  
> uploads
>    (this is maybe a bug?)

I suppose it's possible that there's a bug; about how big
does the  
file have to be for it to fail?

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, H. William Welliver III wrote:

>> * in .htaccess support the <file> directive
>>   caudium only supports the directory directive - 
>> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#directory

>>   The requested function would be like apaches - 
>> 
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#files
>
> Is that the only thing that was missing? I thought
there were some 
> differences in the syntax as well.
>
>> * Instability problems with large files and php
>>   with squirrelmail and gallery caudium cant handle
large file uploads
>>   (this is maybe a bug?)
>
> I suppose it's possible that there's a bug; about how
big does the file have 
> to be for it to fail?

As small as 3-5 megabyte, I could supply a test environment
where this 
problem is static... (or do tests with som help)


//Henrik Andreasson (kinneh)

I just verified that I can upload a 9mb file (only tried
that high  
because that's where I had the max post size set) to a pike
script  
without any problems. That's Caudium 1.4 / Pike 7.6.112 /
Shuffler.

Any chance one of you has a simple CGI script that exhibits
the  
problem? A test environment where I can add some debug would
be nice,  
too, but a minimal test case would probably be needed there
as well.

Bill

On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:40 AM, Henrik Andreasson wrote:

>> I suppose it's possible that there's a bug; about
how big does the  
>> file haveto be for it to fail?
>
> As small as 3-5 megabyte, I could supply a test
environment where  
> thisproblem is static... (or do tests with som help)
>
>
> //Henrik Andreasson (kinneh)

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, H. William Welliver III wrote:

Hi, I will try to create a php-script that is smaller in
size, what I have 
right now is a vmware-image with caudium , pike 7.6.112 and
gallery 
installed if you like access or the whole image maybe?

A file as small as this triggers the problem:
-rw-r----- 1 han root 1815850 2007-08-10 20:42
henrik-en-svenk-klassiker.png

Caudium log:
Cannot call functions in destructed objects.
Unknown program: destructed
object->function(_Caudium.nbio())
nb_send.c:919: _Caudium.nbio()->_output_write_cb(0=_Caudium.nbio())
/usr/lib/pike/7.6.112/lib/modules/Stdio.pmod/module.pmod:910
: 
Stdio.File("pipe", 0, 777 /* fd=29
*/)->__stdio_write_callback()
src/backend.cmod:803: Pike.Backend(0)->`()(3600.000000)

Webbrowser reports:
http://han.pp.se/mess/2007-08-24-170434_827x444_scrot.p
ng


> I just verified that I can upload a 9mb file (only
tried that high because 
> that's where I had the max post size set) to a pike
script without any 
> problems. That's Caudium 1.4 / Pike 7.6.112 /
Shuffler.
>
> Any chance one of you has a simple CGI script that
exhibits the problem? A 
> test environment where I can add some debug would be
nice, too, but a minimal 
> test case would probably be needed there as well.
>
> Bill
>
> On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:40 AM, Henrik Andreasson wrote:
>
>>> I suppose it's possible that there's a bug;
about how big does the file 
>>> haveto be for it to fail?
>> 
>> As small as 3-5 megabyte, I could supply a test
environment where 
>> thisproblem is static... (or do tests with som
help)
>> 
>> 
>> //Henrik Andreasson (kinneh)
>

I notice that you're using nbio; newer versions of pike can
use Shuffler 
instead. You might want to try starting caudium with the
--shuffler 
argument and see if you fare better. A vmware image might
work just fine. 
Let me know where I can get a copy 

Bill

> Hi, I will try to create a php-script that is smaller
in size, what I have 
> right now is a vmware-image with caudium , pike 7.6.112
and galleryinstalled 
> if you like access or the whole image maybe?
>
> A file as small as this triggers the problem:
> -rw-r----- 1 han root 1815850 2007-08-10 20:42
henrik-en-svenk-klassiker.png
>
> Caudium log:
> Cannot call functions in destructed objects.
> Unknown program: destructed
object->function(_Caudium.nbio())
> nb_send.c:919:
_Caudium.nbio()->_output_write_cb(0=_Caudium.nbio())
>
/usr/lib/pike/7.6.112/lib/modules/Stdio.pmod/module.pmod:910
: 
> Stdio.File("pipe", 0, 777 /* fd=29
*/)->__stdio_write_callback()
> src/backend.cmod:803:
Pike.Backend(0)->`()(3600.000000)
>
> Webbrowser reports:
> http://han.pp.se/mess/2007-08-24-170434_827x444_scrot.p
ng
>
>
>> I just verified that I can upload a 9mb file (only
tried that high because 
>> that's where I had the max post size set) to a pike
script without any 
>> problems. That's Caudium 1.4 / Pike 7.6.112 /
Shuffler.
>> 
>> Any chance one of you has a simple CGI script that
exhibits the problem? A 
>> test environment where I can add some debug would
be nice, too, but a 
>> minimaltest case would probably be needed there as
well.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:40 AM, Henrik Andreasson
wrote:
>> 
>>>> I suppose it's possible that there's a bug;
about how big does the 
>>>> filehaveto be for it to fail?
>>> 
>>> As small as 3-5 megabyte, I could supply a test
environment where 
>>> thisproblem is static... (or do tests with som
help)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> //Henrik Andreasson (kinneh)
>> 
>
>
> !DSPAM:46c46aa861251412658825!
>

It's probably worth noting that I get the same reaction from
the browser 
when Caudium cuts off an overly large request (due to the
maximum post 
size being reached). Personally, I'd rather see a specific
response (like 
a 5xx error) from the server, rather than the request being
processed 
with a cut-off.

Thoughts?

Bill

>
> Webbrowser reports:
> http://han.pp.se/mess/2007-08-24-170434_827x444_scrot.p
ng
>

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Bertrand LUPART wrote:

>> * in .htaccess support the <file> directive
caudium only supports the
>> directory directive -
>> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#directory
 The requested
>> function would be like apaches -
>> 
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#files
>
> Once upon a time, there was a patch for relative path
in htaccess files,
> i'm not sure it made it was backported to 1.4 Last time
i checked, it
> failed.

But is relative path the same as supporting <files>
???


>> * Instability problems with large files and php
with squirrelmail and
>> gallery caudium cant handle large file uploads
(this is maybe a bug?)
>
> Just in case, what is your configuration of:
> "Server variables -> Maximum body size for a
POST request"
> in the CIF for your virtual server?


I had 65355 (default), but changed to -1 (unlimited)

the server works _much_ better now, but in what unit is
this?

http://han.pp.se/mess/2007-08-16-213019_1016x341_scrot
.png

//kinneh