Re: obama and iraq

You are right. If it were for money I would NOT be going
back into the 
Army. As Loathe can attest, they don't offer the best pay. I
do it out 
of duty, pride and love of my country, and I am willing to
tolerate 
certain things to ensure that my country is safe, even if
some deem it 
unconstitutional. I also consider myself a warrior and not a
Soldier of 
Fortune. There are enough people out there to fill that
role, and 
frankly that concept never interested me.
Like Jack Nicholson said in A Few Good Men, "I don't
want money and I 
don't want medals".

I just want to serve and be the best soldier I can be.


Bruce

denstar wrote:
> Something about Bruce makes me think it's more than
just knowing which
> side his toast is buttered on.
>
> I think it's an honest belief.  Faith, sorta.
>
> It's only a problem when the State sucks nuts, which is
the case in
> most cases. 
>
> We really do have a kick-ass country, built on, well,
"just plain
> swell" ideas.
>
> It is the *ideas* that we must hold dear tho, *not* the
country itself.
>
> Those ideas, and perhaps ideals, are the true
cornerstone of our greatness.
>
> It ain't in the soil, ya know?  Much as I love the
soil.
>
> I can respect those that love the soil more, but I want
them to love
> the stuff that tills the soil even more, or something.
>
> Bah.
>
> I think what I mean to say is that Bruce says stuff out
of Love, and
> *not* a love of money.
>
> I think of him more a warrior than a soldier (as far as
the "for pay"
> bit goes).  Heh.  I'm a loon.
>
> And I work for The Man too (== I am The Man?) -- along
those lines, I
> keep thinking about this thing I read:
>
> http://www.mises.org/
story/2829
>
> Heh.  And we were sooooo scared of the "big
S". --  "Look over there,
> whilst I rummage in yer pocket!"
>
> --
> Woohoo fer Fridays*!
> *the idea, not the literal day, although it is quite
nice, as days go
>   

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> Bruce wrote:
>  I just want to serve and be the best soldier I can
be.
>

just because it's Friday ...

(1.) Here's the thing: democracy must be defended or it
doesn't exist.
 But, imo, "government" threatens democracy.  It's
a fine line.

(2.) I'm guessing most, if not 99.9999% of people, don't
join the
military to defend me as a person.  They join because it
does
something for them.  Call me cynical or call me a true
capitalist, but
I don't believe in altruism.

(3.) We'd all serve for the right cause.

I think it's very difficult for Joe Blow to remember that
soldiers
serve for them.  Today.  Now.

But this service ends where Joe Blow's liberties begin. 
Period.

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On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Bruce Sorge <sorgebgmail.com> wrote:
> You are right. If it were for money I would NOT be
going back into the
>  Army. As Loathe can attest, they don't offer the best
pay. I do it out
>  of duty, pride and love of my country, and I am
willing to tolerate
>  certain things to ensure that my country is safe, even
if some deem it
>  unconstitutional. I also consider myself a warrior and
not a Soldier of
>  Fortune. There are enough people out there to fill
that role, and
>  frankly that concept never interested me.
>  Like Jack Nicholson said in A Few Good Men, "I
don't want money and I
>  don't want medals".
>
>  I just want to serve and be the best soldier I can
be.

Being the best, means giving up safety in exchange for
freedom.

Even for our beloved.

It is a extremely difficult choice to make, but the only
real one available.

When we trade our freedoms for security, we become
"them".

I want us to stay US.

I have to constantly remind myself, as I slip, like most
humans.


Life just ain't as cut and dry as people wish it were. 
Myself included.

It's fun to think there's certain ways to think, but it just
ain't so.

Bring it on, I say.  It takes all types, of that I'm sure
(ha ha).

Faith in the institutions we've built shouldn't be an
automatic "bad thing".

I do want to change your mind, but I don't want to change
your heart.


Generally, we could do with a bit of faith.

Warriors fighting for ideals (some great ones are embodied
in the
constitution ;), vs., um, nouns.

The nouns are dragging us doooooooowwn.

Heh.  Bastian of clarity, I be.

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