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Re: Obama's speech today
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-18 13:31:09
a republican friend of mine, who like him over hillary, said
same
thing as Sam Morris.

same exact.

must be FOX feeding these lines to them all...

ive not READ it yet, its too much for me to read, ill hope
to listen
to it first...

me

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:17 PM, G Money <gm0n3y06gmail.com> wrote:
> It's amazing that someone could come away from his
speech with the opinions
>  that you did.......it makes me think that his message
of hope truly is in
>  vain.....maybe people aren't ready or capable of
change...you certainly
>  don't seem to be. Rest inline:
>
>
>  On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:38 PM, sam morris
<bytorngmail.com> wrote:
>
>  > Here's some of my thoughts:
>  >
>  > Sounds like he said all black churches are racist
so get used to it.
>
>
>  No, he didn't. He stated the REALITY, and said it can
change...it MUST
>  change. Not ONCE did he say "get used to
it". You think you can just make
>  stuff up and we won't notice????
>
>
>  His White grandmother is racist, just like Dana so
they probably all are,
>
>
>  HUH? His grandmother had uttered some phrases that
made him cringe. They are
>  born of her experiences....the anger that drives some
of those phrases is
>  REAL. THAT was his point...not ONCE did he say
"they probably are all
>  racist". Again, why are you making stuff up? Is
reality such a foreign
>  concept to you?
>
>
>  Last week he said he didn't know about Wright's hate
America/Whites talk.
>  > Now he says he knew but most black churches are
like that.
>
>
>  he stated a reality...many of the same type of
rhetoric IS present in black
>  churches....in black schools....around the dinner
table in black homes. Yes,
>  that is true.
>
>
>
>  > Blacks CAN hate whites because of slavery and Jim
Crow?
>  > He's defending black on white racism.
>
>
>  NO HE ISNT. GRRR....i'm trying to decide if you CAN'T
hear, or if you just
>  don't WANT to hear what he is saying. I'm not going to
reiterate it
>  here.....your stubborn ignorance is trying my
patience.
>
>
>  Wright didn't change but teaches his hate to the
young. Shouldn't we break
>  > this cycle? That's the change I want, stop
teaching kids to hate.
>
>
>  Yes we should. That's the kind of change Obama is
after.  He can't do it
>  alone, neither can I...we actually need people like
YOU to buy into the
>  idea.....which seems, frankly, impossible at this
point.
>
>
>  So the whole country is racists? Whites hate black
because of affirmative
>  > action and blacks hate whites because of
slavery?
>
>
>  To a point, yes. Is the "whole country"
racist? No, but the racism that DOES
>  exist has it's roots, it's reasons...and for many,
those are the reasons.
>  What part of that don't you understand?
>
>
>  --
>  Her face used to feel so soft
>  Until her agent's doctor pulled it off
>
>
>  

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Re: Obama's speech today
country flaguser name
United States
1969-12-31 18:00:00
Must not have had any Kool-Aid.

You really need to read or listen before you make a foolish
comment like that. You are obviously toeing the line without
even knowing why.

>a republican friend of mine, who like him over hillary,
said same
>thing as Sam Morris.
>
>same exact.
>
>must be FOX feeding these lines to them all...
>
>ive not READ it yet, its too much for me to read, ill
hope to listen
>to it first...
>
>me
> 

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Re: Obama's speech today
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-18 14:09:40
I think you should see it first. His demeanor was important.
I was
struck (for example) by his dignity in telling the story
about his
grandmother being afraid of black men.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Tony <tonyweeggmail.com> wrote:
> a republican friend of mine, who like him over hillary,
said same
>  thing as Sam Morris.
>
>  same exact.
>
>  must be FOX feeding these lines to them all...
>
>  ive not READ it yet, its too much for me to read, ill
hope to listen
>  to it first...
>
>  me
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:17 PM, G Money
<gm0n3y06gmail.com> wrote:
>  > It's amazing that someone could come away from
his speech with the opinions
>  >  that you did.......it makes me think that his
message of hope truly is in
>  >  vain.....maybe people aren't ready or capable of
change...you certainly
>  >  don't seem to be. Rest inline:
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:38 PM, sam morris
<bytorngmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >  > Here's some of my thoughts:
>  >  >
>  >  > Sounds like he said all black churches are
racist so get used to it.
>  >
>  >
>  >  No, he didn't. He stated the REALITY, and said
it can change...it MUST
>  >  change. Not ONCE did he say "get used to
it". You think you can just make
>  >  stuff up and we won't notice????
>  >
>  >
>  >  His White grandmother is racist, just like Dana
so they probably all are,
>  >
>  >
>  >  HUH? His grandmother had uttered some phrases
that made him cringe. They are
>  >  born of her experiences....the anger that drives
some of those phrases is
>  >  REAL. THAT was his point...not ONCE did he say
"they probably are all
>  >  racist". Again, why are you making stuff
up? Is reality such a foreign
>  >  concept to you?
>  >
>  >
>  >  Last week he said he didn't know about Wright's
hate America/Whites talk.
>  >  > Now he says he knew but most black churches
are like that.
>  >
>  >
>  >  he stated a reality...many of the same type of
rhetoric IS present in black
>  >  churches....in black schools....around the
dinner table in black homes. Yes,
>  >  that is true.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  > Blacks CAN hate whites because of slavery
and Jim Crow?
>  >  > He's defending black on white racism.
>  >
>  >
>  >  NO HE ISNT. GRRR....i'm trying to decide if you
CAN'T hear, or if you just
>  >  don't WANT to hear what he is saying. I'm not
going to reiterate it
>  >  here.....your stubborn ignorance is trying my
patience.
>  >
>  >
>  >  Wright didn't change but teaches his hate to the
young. Shouldn't we break
>  >  > this cycle? That's the change I want, stop
teaching kids to hate.
>  >
>  >
>  >  Yes we should. That's the kind of change Obama
is after.  He can't do it
>  >  alone, neither can I...we actually need people
like YOU to buy into the
>  >  idea.....which seems, frankly, impossible at
this point.
>  >
>  >
>  >  So the whole country is racists? Whites hate
black because of affirmative
>  >  > action and blacks hate whites because of
slavery?
>  >
>  >
>  >  To a point, yes. Is the "whole
country" racist? No, but the racism that DOES
>  >  exist has it's roots, it's reasons...and for
many, those are the reasons.
>  >  What part of that don't you understand?
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  Her face used to feel so soft
>  >  Until her agent's doctor pulled it off
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>  

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