Re: Terrorism, the new Cold War.

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On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Michael Dinowitz
<mdinowithouseoffusion.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM, denstar
<valliantstergmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Michael Dinowitz
> > <mdinowithouseoffusion.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:59 PM, denstar
<valliantstergmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:45 PM,
Michael Dinowitz
> > >  > <mdinowithouseoffusion.com>
wrote:
> > >  > ....
> > >  > >  Defending against it is easier.
> > >  >
> > >  > Defending?  If this is the cure, man...
maybe the disease ain't that
> > bad.
> > >
> > >  The disease is being blown up. How bad do
you want the disease over the
> > >  cure?
> >
> > I will take the bombs over the loss of liberty. 
Hands down.  No question.
>
> And where do you live? It's sure not in NY. Anyone can
say they're willing
> to die for liberty but are you really willing to or
will you give up some
> public liberties in return for life. And what do you
consider too far an
> invasion? A baggage check at an airport?
>
> >
> >
> > I would rather my family die, than give up that
which was fought so hard
> > for.
> >
> > You know that tho.  I've said it before.
> >
> > I'm not willing to make the trade.
> >
> > You take your safety, I'll take liberty.  Or
death
> >
> > >  > I seriously doubt it's a
"cultural" thing, too.
> > >
> > >  Then your blind to the facts on the ground.
This is not a revolutionary
> >
> > So the terrorists have a culture?  Dude, come on.
>
> Yep. They gloat about it.
>
> >
> > There are nutters in every walk of life dude.  Get
over it.  We don't
> > need some crazy "fear X culture" type
crap.
>
> Gangs have a culture. In the 70's there were places
that you could not
> travel in/to in NY because you knew you would be
jumped/robbed/raped/etc. We
> beat that culture in most respects.
>
> >
> >
> > You've got the symptoms and the whatnots,
confused, I reckon.
> >
> > And to once again bring it up (you don't need to
take it out on other
> > people tho, just me would be kosher),
"they" is BS man.
>
> Just you being a stickler for language to confuse the
issue. Context shows
> us who they are.
>
> >
> >
> > "They" is an American pissed at the
government.  "They" don't wear
> > clothes, or have a certain skin-tone, or even a
certain belief or
> > whatever, that makes "them" some unit
that, say, one can wage a war
> > on.  If "they" did, "they"
wouldn't be "them", now would they?
>
> In context, of my post (as is easy to read), they are
terrorists. They are
> religious extremists willing and able to kill anyone in
their way. They do
> have a certain belief and they are the ones trying more
than anything or
> anyone to take away our rights.
> Will you fight for your right to free speech? Will you
die to publish a
> cartoon lampooning those religious extremists who use a
religious figure to
> justify their actions? If the answer is no then your a
hypocrite. If the
> answer is yes then you can easily see those who want to
take our liberties
> away and they are not the government. At least not the
government of this
> country.
>
> >
> >
> > >  > Come on, man.  =]
> > >
> > >  Same back at you. Your desire to see it in
terms of "they're fighting
> > the
> > >  evil empire of us" has blinded you to
what they're doing to everyone
> > else
> > >  and why.
> >
> > Bullshit.  I don't think we're an evil empire.
> >
> > I do think we did some shit that makes it look
pretty funny to act all
> > innocent tho.
>
> Since when do we act all innocent?
>
>
> 

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